Evolution and the Human Soul....

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We accept that that God gave us two parents and we call them Adam and Eve.
Science attempts to explain the physical dynamics of this, and the Church allows science this sphere of competence.
Having a good solid theological framework does not limit scientific inquiry, it welcomes it. That seems to threaten some people, and I don’t quite understand why.

Anyone making a blanket statement that
“the science of evolution is incompatible with Catholic teaching”
or
“our first two human parents could not have come from a population of this or that”
is making up their own brew of science/religion and pretending to know the unknowable.

Our Magisterium does not say that. What it says is that our full humanity is
  1. body
    and
  2. rational soul
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Our soul cannot develop or evolve in a population (polygenism)
Well, hold on a second. Polygenism does not mean “soul development/evolution”, but rather, that our origins – or, more to the point, original sin – comes from a population rather than from a pair of humans.

Does the Catechism teach this? I would answer that it doesn’t address this particular question in a distinct way.

Does the Church, then, teach “two individuals in the midst of a hominid population”? In fact, it doesn’t address the question at all. The theory – and it’s important to note that this is merely a theological (not scientific!) theory – attempts to find a way to harmonize what revelation tells us with what science tells us. Given that it doesn’t add to what we understand about God’s self-revelation, I doubt that the Church will sound off on the issue. 🤷

(The theory, itself, raises challenging questions. What would it mean for two humans to live among a non-human hominid population? What would it mean for their descendants? However, these questions are no less challenging than those who assert a literal interpretation of the opening chapters of Genesis…)
 
👍 This!

Well, hold on a second. Polygenism does not mean “soul development/evolution”, but rather, that our origins – or, more to the point, original sin – comes from a population rather than from a pair of humans.
I think if you read through the relevant documents that Church holds a slightly different position, not in disagreement with what you are saying, but a more full explanation of it
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Whatever we want to call “them”, hominids, or pre-humans, cannot have original sin, due to lack of a human soul with all that entails.

Here is the problem in a nutshell:
people misunderstand polygenism to prohibit the evolution of “human” material to the point of Adam and Eve, as if the God-given development of our bodies somehow limits God’s creative action in regard to our souls. 🤷

If you read through especially JP2’s address (the whole thing) he is not at all arguing with specific evolutionary science in this area. He is proclaiming the definition of what it means to be fully human, and reserving that to God’s gift of a soul united to a body.
As a result, the theories of evolution which, because of the philosophies which inspire them, regard the spirit either as emerging from the forces of living matter, or as a simple epiphenomenon of that matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. They are therefore unable to serve as the basis for the dignity of the human person.
There is a nice paragraph in there about human dignity, and while this seems like it is tangential to the discussion, it is actually the key to understanding what he is saying.
 
The word “polygenism” is simply a genetic term which requires the presence of a mixed genetic population in order to produce a definable species. In today’s science of human evolution, the term “common ancestor” population is the equivalent of the older term “polygenism.”

From Humani Generis, Pius XII
w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis.html
37. When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which, through generation, is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own.

In today’s science of human evolution, using either polygenism or common ancestor leads to a population of hundreds and not to the original Adam and his spouse Eve.
 
Evolution and the human soul are never going to dovetail, given that souls simply do not fossilize, and no anatomical marker (such as head size) is a reliable proxy for the soul.

IMNAAHO. ICXC NIKA
 
Evolution and the human soul are never going to dovetail, given that souls simply do not fossilize, and no anatomical marker (such as head size) is a reliable proxy for the soul.

IMNAAHO. ICXC NIKA
Amen.😃
 
This happens in 2015 because many people do not understand the simple fact that today’s evolution theory pertains to two separate categories. 1. the science of human evolution and 2. the science of non-human living organisms. Both areas use the genetic system of Cladistics/cladograms which posits large populations as sources of extant species. This includes common ancestors.

The Catholic Church does not accept today’s science of human evolution.
Sorry Granny, but this is nonsense. You are out of touch with reality. There are no “two separate categories” of evolution. And the Catholic Church DOES accept human evolution.
 
Sorry Granny, but this is nonsense. You are out of touch with reality. There are no “two separate categories” of evolution. And the Catholic Church DOES accept human evolution.
Back to the topic. The soul is Theology. It cannot be studied by science so it does not exist.

The Biology textbook states that nothing but unguided mechanisms are all that were required, and somehow, after a time, human beings managed to appear.

The mystery is: Why would any religious leader’s words be accepted on a purely scientific level or matter at all?

Man and woman are special creations. Our first parents were two individuals with preternatural gifts.

Best,
Ed
 
Hans W #25
And the Catholic Church DOES accept human evolution.
Obviously, Darwinian evolutionism is an historical assumption which seeks to affirm its beliefs with empirical science, and it has not been scientifically verified, as Pope Benedict XVI has suggested.

Note that Pope John Paul II reiterated the teaching of Pope Pius XII in *Humani generis *that the evolution of the human body “should not be adopted as though it were a certain and proved doctrine and as though one could totally prescind from Revelation with regard to the questions it raises.” Message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on October 22, 1996, 4].

Addressing theologians in 1966, Pope Paul VI reiterated that “Catholic doctrine on original sin was re-affirmed in the Second Vatican Council” (Lumen Gentium, Gaudium et Spes) “in full consonance with divine revelation and the teaching of the preceding Councils of Carthage, Orange and Trent.” He affirmed that “the sin of the first man is transmitted to all his descendents, not through imitation but through propagation.”
 
I thank the Lord that the Magisterium of the Church does not jump on the bandwagon of every new hypothesis.
 
This really gets me up in arms. That happens if people don’t know what science is.
… The soul is Theology. It cannot be studied by science so it does not exist.
Science DOESN’T study the soul. Full stop. Not “cannot be studied”. Same as the beauty of a Bach fugue and the feeling it generates in us is not covered by science.

Are you saying the soul doesn’t exist because it is not studied by science? Are you saying that science denies the existence of a soul? The answer is NO to both questions.
The Biology textbook states that nothing but unguided mechanisms are all that were required, and somehow, after a time, human beings managed to appear.
Two of the basic mechanisms of evolution (there are many more) are random mutations and selection based on environmental factors.

Mutations are “random”. They appear to be random to us, like for example radioactive decay. That doesn’t mean that God cannot direct mutations (or radioactive decay). Because it APPEARS to be random, or “unguided”, to us doesn’t mean that God has no control over it. It’s called Theistic Evolution. Evolution directed by God. Of course, science can’t tell you if it was directed by God or not. Don’t listen to Dawkins who tells you that it is undirected. Listen to the Church which tells you that it is directed by God. Then the problem goes away.
 
Probably the most important point I can make here is this:
  1. It doesn’t matter what I think is possible.
Does it *seem to me *that your proposition is possible? Why wouldn’t it be? Who can know for sure? Who will ever know which two were chosen by God?

We accept that that God gave us two parents and we call them Adam and Eve.
Science attempts to explain the physical dynamics of this, and the Church allows science this sphere of competence.
Having a good solid theological framework does not limit scientific inquiry, it welcomes it. That seems to threaten some people, and I don’t quite understand why.

Anyone making a blanket statement that
“the science of evolution is incompatible with Catholic teaching”
or
“our first two human parents could not have come from a population of this or that”
is making up their own brew of science/religion and pretending to know the unknowable.

Our Magisterium does not say that. What it says is that our full humanity is
  1. body
    and
  2. rational soul
Our soul cannot develop or evolve in a population (polygenism), it is given by God. But the process God used to create our bodies is a subject for study. One thing is for sure…the bible is not a science textbook, and the Church does not pretend it is.
At first you said my suggestion was possible, but later, in your last paragraph, you spoke about polytheism. Are you saying that God taking two from a group and ensouling them, making them our first parents is polytheism or am I misunderstanding you?
 
At first you said my suggestion was possible, but later, in your last paragraph, you spoke about polytheism. Are you saying that God taking two from a group and ensouling them, making them our first parents is polytheism or am I misunderstanding you?
I think you mean to say “polygenism”?
Polygenism is the idea that there exist true humans who did not descend from our two first parents, and all that implies with regard to original sin, and that bits and pieces of true humans pooled together and evolved, apart from the biblical context of Adam and Eve.
If we do not understand what it means to be a true human, none of this can make sense.
True humans are a unity of
  1. body
  2. rational soul
    If a being looks like a human, walks like a human, and quacks like a human, but does not have a human soul, is it a human being? NO.
    ( but we need to stop for a second and be very careful here… it’s not our purview to know the existence of a soul, so we assume that if our reason tells us an embryo looks human, we assume it is human rather than make the arrogant error of deciding it is not).
Maybe the most important point again is, for us to admit we really don’t know, in a scientific way, how God ensouled our first two parents. As Catholics we accept everything the bible tells us in regards to God’s creation, but not in a fundamentalist way. God created the physical world and all that is unseen as well.

Science attempts to unlock the mysteries of the physical world that God creates. In a nutshell, the Church objects when hard science pretends to know things that it cannot know, like the existence of the soul, how it came to be, when it came to be. Science cannot prove that. In these cases, science oversteps it’s bounds.
On the other hand, the Church does not make scientific proclamations. The Church does not tell us how the body came to be, or when it came to be, or what process God used to bring it about. It allows and encourages science to explore and explain these things. The idea that the Church is, in a general way, opposed to the science of human evolution is just absolute nonsense. It is nonsense. The words of Popes contradict this assertion. Again, that’s not to say that some scientists overstep their bounds into the spiritual realm, and the Church rejects those oversteps.

We can’t drift off into fideism. Faith and reason coexist and inform one another nicely.
Through our faith, we accept that God is God. God is not our own personal scientific tool. Scripture is not a science textbook.
This is the danger of fundamentalist scripture interpretation: it robs the scriptures of their full inspiration. In effect, fundamentalism does not allow God to be God, it forces him into a man-sized box, locked into the rigid words of the scriptures.
No, the sky does not have a dome covering it. No, the earth was not created in 6 literalist days. That’s ok, the inspired nature of scripture is much larger than science. 🤷
The fundamentalist interpretation of sacred Scripture
  1. The attention we have been paying to different aspects of the theme of biblical hermeneutics now enables us to consider a subject which came up a number of times during the Synod: that of the fundamentalist interpretation of sacred Scripture.[145] The Pontifical Biblical Commission, in its document The Interpretation of the Bible in the Church, has laid down some important guidelines. Here I would like especially to deal with approaches which fail to respect the authenticity of the sacred text, but promote subjective and arbitrary interpretations. The “literalism” championed by the fundamentalist approach actually represents a betrayal of both the literal and the spiritual sense, and opens the way to various forms of manipulation, as, for example, by disseminating anti-ecclesial interpretations of the Scriptures. “The basic problem with fundamentalist interpretation is that, refusing to take into account the historical character of biblical revelation, it makes itself incapable of accepting the full truth of the incarnation itself. As regards relationships with God, fundamentalism seeks to escape any closeness of the divine and the human … for this reason, it tends to treat the biblical text as if it had been dictated word for word by the Spirit. It fails to recognize that the word of God has been formulated in language and expression conditioned by various periods”.[146] Christianity, on the other hand, perceives in the words the Word himself, the Logos who displays his mystery through this complexity and the reality of human history.[147] The true response to a fundamentalist approach is “the faith-filled interpretation of sacred Scripture”. This manner of interpretation, “practised from antiquity within the Church’s Tradition, seeks saving truth for the life of the individual Christian and for the Church. It recognizes the historical value of the biblical tradition. Precisely because of the tradition’s value as an historical witness, this reading seeks to discover the living meaning of the sacred Scriptures for the lives of believers today”,[148] while not ignoring the human mediation of the inspired text and its literary genres.
w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_ben-xvi_exh_20100930_verbum-domini.html
 
On the contrary, by not interpreting Scripture correctly, we deny that God can do things only God can do and put man’s interpretation above that of revealed truth.

"Real History

"The argument is that all of this is real history, it is simply ordered topically rather than chronologically, and the ancient audience of Genesis, it is argued, would have understood it as such.

"Even if Genesis 1 records God’s work in a topical fashion, it still records God’s work—things God really did.

"The Catechism explains that “Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine ‘work,’ concluded by the ‘rest’ of the seventh day” (CCC 337), but “nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God’s word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history is rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun” (CCC 338).

"It is impossible to dismiss the events of Genesis 1 as a mere legend. They are accounts of real history, even if they are told in a style of historical writing that Westerners do not typically use.

"Adam and Eve: Real People

"It is equally impermissible to dismiss the story of Adam and Eve and the fall (Gen. 2–3) as a fiction. A question often raised in this context is whether the human race descended from an original pair of two human beings (a teaching known as monogenism) or a pool of early human couples (a teaching known as polygenism).

"In this regard, Pope Pius XII stated: “When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains either that after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parents of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now, it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the teaching authority of the Church proposed with regard to original sin which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam in which through generation is passed onto all and is in everyone as his own” (Humani Generis 37).

“The story of the creation and fall of man is a true one, even if not written entirely according to modern literary techniques. The Catechism states, “The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents” (CCC 390).”

Ed
 
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clem456:
You have a good post. However this comment …
“The idea that the Church is, in a general way, opposed to the science of human evolution is just absolute nonsense. It is nonsense. The words of Popes contradict this assertion.”
… needs some enlightenment.

Step one.
Please explain the general base for the science of human evolution.

Step two.
Please supply the words of Popes which directly contradict the Catholic doctrines regarding the origin of humankind and Original Sin which were clearly affirmed in 1950.

These two steps will demonstrate general Catholic opposition to the science of human evolution.

In various posts, I have replied, in some manner, to both steps. Nonetheless, there is the possibility that you have additional information which obviously needs to be addressed in relationship to Catholic Church doctrines. 😃
 
You have a good post. However this comment …
“The idea that the Church is, in a general way, opposed to the science of human evolution is just absolute nonsense. It is nonsense. The words of Popes contradict this assertion.”
… needs some enlightenment.

Step one.
Please explain the general base for the science of human evolution.

Step two.
Please supply the words of Popes which directly contradict the Catholic doctrines regarding the origin of humankind and Original Sin which were clearly affirmed in 1950.
You’ve seen all the documents many times. And you know that my position and the position of other Catholics is not a denial of the origin of humankind or denial of Original Sin. That is somewhat slanderous, don’t you think?
Why do you ask for documents again? (This question above all others I think deserves an honest answer).
ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp961022.htm
John Paul’s MESSAGE TO THE PONTIFICAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES:
ON EVOLUTION
The Pope, addressing the PAS specifically on the topic of evolution. Can we allow the Pope to speak for the Church?
  1. In celebrating the 60th anniversary of the re-foundation of the Academy, it gives me pleasure to recall the intentions of my predecessor, Pius XI, who wished to bring together around him a chosen group of scholars who could, working with complete freedom, inform the Holy See about the developments in scientific research and thus provide aid for reflections.
  2. I am delighted with the first theme which you have chosen: the origin of life and evolution—an essential theme of lively interest to the Church…And if at first glance these views seem to clash with each other, where should we look for a solution? We know that the truth cannot contradict the truth.

    In his encyclical Humani Generis (1950), **my predecessor Pius XII has already affirmed that there is no conflict between evolution and the doctrine of the faith *regarding man and his vocation, provided that we do not lose sight of certain fixed points.

    It is important to set proper limits to the understanding of Scripture, excluding any unseasonable interpretations which would make it mean something which it is not intended to mean. In order to mark out the limits of their own proper fields, theologians and those working on the exegesis of the Scripture need to be well informed regarding the results of the latest scientific research.

    Humani Generis treated the doctrine of “evolutionism” as a serious hypothesis, worthy of investigation and serious study, alongside the opposite hypothesis. Pius XII added two methodological conditions for this study: one could not adopt this opinion as if it were a certain and demonstrable doctrine, and one could not totally set aside the teaching Revelation on the relevant questions. He also set out the conditions on which this opinion would be compatible with the Christian faith

    Today, more than a half-century after the appearance of that encyclical, some new findings lead us toward the recognition of evolution as more than an hypothesis.
    In fact it is remarkable that this theory has had progressively greater influence on the spirit of researchers, following a series of discoveries in different scholarly disciplines. The convergence in the results of these independent studies—which was neither planned nor sought—constitutes in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory. (is there something ambiguous in the Pope’s words here? Hardly…)

    And to tell the truth, rather than speaking about the theory of evolution, it is more accurate to speak of the theories of evolution. The use of the plural is required here—in part because of the diversity of explanations regarding the mechanism of evolution, and in part because of the diversity of philosophies involved. There are materialist and reductionist theories, as well as spiritualist theories. Here the final judgment is within the competence of philosophy and, beyond that, of theology.

    It is by virtue of his eternal soul that the whole person, including his body, possesses such great dignity. Pius XII underlined the essential point: if the origin of the human body comes through living matter which existed previously, the spiritual soul is created directly by God.

    As a result, the theories of evolution which, because of the philosophies which inspire them, regard the spirit either as emerging from the forces of living matter, or as a simple epiphenomenon of that matter, are incompatible with the truth about man.

    An appreciation for **the different methods used in different fields of scholarship **allows us to bring together two points of view which at first might seem irreconcilable. The sciences of observation describe and measure, with ever greater precision, the many manifestations of life, and write them down along the time-line. The moment of passage into the spiritual realm is not something that can be observed in this way
    …But the experience of metaphysical knowledge, …—these must be analyzed through philosophical reflection, while theology seeks to clarify the ultimate meaning of the Creator’s designs.
These two steps will demonstrate general Catholic opposition to the science of human evolution.
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A misrepresentation offered repeatedly becomes what…exactly?
 
From Communion and Stewardship:

“64. Pope John Paul II stated some years ago that “new knowledge leads to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis. It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge”(“Message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on Evolution”1996). In continuity with previous twentieth century papal teaching on evolution (especially Pope Pius XII’s encyclical Humani Generis ), the Holy Father’s message acknowledges that there are “several theories of evolution” that are “materialist, reductionist and spiritualist” and thus incompatible with the Catholic faith. It follows that the message of Pope John Paul II cannot be read as a blanket approbation of all theories of evolution, including those of a neo-Darwinian provenance which explicitly deny to divine providence any truly causal role in the development of life in the universe. Mainly concerned with evolution as it “involves the question of man,” however, Pope John Paul’s message is specifically critical of materialistic theories of human origins and insists on the relevance of philosophy and theology for an adequate understanding of the “ontological leap” to the human which cannot be explained in purely scientific terms. The Church’s interest in evolution thus focuses particularly on “the conception of man” who, as created in the image of God, “cannot be subordinated as a pure means or instrument either to the species or to society.” As a person created in the image of God, he is capable of forming relationships of communion with other persons and with the triune God, as well as of exercising sovereignty and stewardship in the created universe. The implication of these remarks is that theories of evolution and of the origin of the universe possess particular theological interest when they touch on the doctrines of the creation ex nihilo and the creation of man in the image of God.”

Church teaching is a bit more nuanced.

Ed
 
You’ve seen all the documents many times. And you know that my position and the position of other Catholics is not a denial of the origin of humankind or denial of Original Sin. That is somewhat slanderous, don’t you think?
Why do you ask for documents again? (This question above all others I think deserves an honest answer).
This is what I asked for.

Step one.
Please explain the general base for the science of human evolution.

Step two.
Please supply the words of Popes which directly contradict the Catholic doctrines regarding the origin of humankind and Original Sin which were clearly affirmed in 1950.

These two steps will demonstrate general Catholic opposition to the science of human evolution.

Step one is avoided in post 35. However, those familiar with the current science of human evolution (population based) might recognize some concern in the address of St. John Paul II to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, October 22, 1996.
newadvent.org/library/docs_jp02tc.htm
Beginning of section 4.
  1. Taking into account the state of scientific research at the time as well as of the requirements of theology, the encyclical *Humani Generis *considered the doctrine of “evolutionism” a serious hypothesis, worthy of investigation and in-depth study equal to that of the opposing hypothesis. Pius XII added two methodological conditions: that this opinion should not be adopted as though it were a certain, proven doctrine and as though one could totally prescind from revelation with regard to the questions it raises. He also spelled out the condition on which this opinion would be compatible with the Christian faith, a point to which I will return.
Last paragraph in section 4.

And, to tell the truth, rather than the theory of evolution, we should speak of several theories of evolution. On the one hand, this plurality has to do with the different explanations advanced for the mechanism of evolution, and on the other, with the various philosophies on which it is based. Hence the existence of materialist, reductionist and spiritualist interpretations. What is to be decided here is the true role of philosophy and, beyond it, of theology.

Beginning of section 5.
  1. The Church’s magisterium is directly concerned with the question of evolution, for it involves the conception of man: Revelation teaches us that he was created in the image and likeness of God (cf. Gn 1:27-29). The conciliar constitution Gaudium et Spes has magnificently explained this doctrine, which is pivotal to Christian thought.
It is precisely the Catholic doctrine on the conception of man, that is, two real sole founders of the human species, which directly contradicts the science of human evolution theory that the human species is the result of a random breeding, humanizing, large population developing over time.
Beginning of section 6.
  1. With man, then, we find ourselves in the presence of an ontological difference, an ontological leap, one could say. However, does not the posing of such ontological discontinuity run counter to that physical continuity which seems to be the main thread of research into evolution in the field of physics and chemistry? Consideration of the method used in the various branches of knowledge makes it possible to reconcile two points of view which would seem irreconcilable.
Note: the method above is based on materialism, not Divine Revelation.

To be continued.

Regarding Step two.

Step two.
Please supply the words of Popes which directly contradict the Catholic doctrines regarding the origin of humankind and Original Sin which were clearly affirmed in 1950.

There are lot of information sentences in post 35. However, there is not one sentence which directly and unequivocally contracdicts (denies) the Catholic doctrines regarding the origin of humankind and Original Sin. Those familiar with the “population” base for the science of human evolution immeditately recognize that it denies those doctrines.
 
From Communion and Stewardship:

“64. Pope John Paul II stated some years ago that “new knowledge leads to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis. It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge”(“Message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on Evolution”1996). In continuity with previous twentieth century papal teaching on evolution (especially Pope Pius XII’s encyclical Humani Generis ), the Holy Father’s message acknowledges that there are “several theories of evolution” that are “materialist, reductionist and spiritualist” and thus incompatible with the Catholic faith. It follows that the message of Pope John Paul II cannot be read as a blanket approbation of all theories of evolution, including those of a neo-Darwinian provenance which explicitly deny to divine providence any truly causal role in the development of life in the universe. Mainly concerned with evolution as it “involves the question of man,” however, Pope John Paul’s message is specifically critical of materialistic theories of human origins and insists on the relevance of philosophy and theology for an adequate understanding of the “ontological leap” to the human which cannot be explained in purely scientific terms. The Church’s interest in evolution thus focuses particularly on “the conception of man” who, as created in the image of God, “cannot be subordinated as a pure means or instrument either to the species or to society.” As a person created in the image of God, he is capable of forming relationships of communion with other persons and with the triune God, as well as of exercising sovereignty and stewardship in the created universe. The implication of these remarks is that theories of evolution and of the origin of the universe possess particular theological interest when they touch on the doctrines of the creation ex nihilo and the creation of man in the image of God.”

Church teaching is a bit more nuanced.
Ed
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Yes, it is nuanced. At the same time the principles undergirding it are simple (not simplistic). As always it needs to be read with an open mind and heart.
 
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Yes, it is nuanced. At the same time the principles undergirding it are simple (not simplistic). As always it needs to be read with an open mind and heart.
Post # 37 provides the needed framework.

Ed
 
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