Evolution and world problems?

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Im taking a biology course right now in college and one of the recurring themes is evolution. I know that the Catholic Church says that evolution is a possible way that God would have brought humans to the world, and I am fine with that. The problem that is bothering me is that if we did evolve, natural disasters, and diseases would have happened before us, such as with previous animals who went extinct. I thought that original sin brought diseases and such into the world. Is there any explanation for this? Thanks for your answers.
 
God is not limited by time. The fact that sin occurred on a time table, does not mean that the repercussions of it could not extend backwards through time, as well as forward.
 
Im taking a biology course right now in college and one of the recurring themes is evolution. I know that the Catholic Church says that evolution is a possible way that God would have brought humans to the world, and I am fine with that. The problem that is bothering me is that if we did evolve, natural disasters, and diseases would have happened before us, such as with previous animals who went extinct. I thought that original sin brought diseases and such into the world. Is there any explanation for this? Thanks for your answers.
The first couple were expelled from the Garden where things were perfect and into … where? The Catechism tells us the Scripture uses “figurative language.” They were made in the image of God, not the image of animals. One way to interpret this is that Adam and Eve were beings of spirit and the “garden” a place of sanctuary for them in a spiritual state, but that they willfully challenged God somehow, and were sent to earth to live in human form.

When we read that “sin entered the world” through Adam, earthquakes aren’t sins. Animals killing one another aren’t sins. Only humans can sin by choosing that which is not God. God can have waited (no Time in Eternity) for a species to have such a complex nervous system that it could connect with the Divine thought (prayer and consolation) and placed Adam and Eve in the bodies of that species (H. sapiens). Note a passage in the story in Scripture where God “makes clothes” for them. Our loving Father would never abandon us.

Figurative language is the operative phrase. Evolution is no way diminishes Scripture or the Faith. God created everything and called it good. Including processes of change, so that creation could show by it’s very existence that yearning for God present in all that is not God. I’ve always thought Saint Francis understood this instinctively.
 
God is not limited by time. The fact that sin occurred on a time table, does not mean that the repercussions of it could not extend backwards through time, as well as forward.
In the same way that Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross extended back in time! 😉
 
Im taking a biology course right now in college and one of the recurring themes is evolution. I know that the Catholic Church says that evolution is a possible way that God would have brought humans to the world, and I am fine with that. The problem that is bothering me is that if we did evolve, natural disasters, and diseases would have happened before us, such as with previous animals who went extinct. I thought that original sin brought diseases and such into the world. Is there any explanation for this? Thanks for your answers.
One thing to keep in mind is that evolution requires matter in order to work.
 
=Julia Mae;8809820]The first couple were expelled from the Garden where things were perfect and into … where? The Catechism tells us the Scripture uses “figurative language.” They were made in the image of God, not the image of animals. **One way to interpret this is that Adam and Eve were beings of spirit **and the “garden” a place of sanctuary for them in a spiritual state, but that they willfully challenged God somehow, and were sent to earth to live in human form.
Adam and Eve were real literal people. That is Catholic Dogma
When we read that “sin entered the world” through Adam, earthquakes aren’t sins. Animals killing one another aren’t sins.
As Catholics, we are allowed to believe in a literal 6 days of creation as did the majority of the early Church Fathers and as scripture teaches.

That would mean that when sin entered the world, death, decay and corruption of everything entered the world. That would mean that there was no death, decay or corruption of anything until after the fall and that is one of the reasons I reject the “theory” of evolution.
 
I saw a fascinating show on evolution a couple of weeks ago. I had always had the impression that evolution taught that genes mutated to create different species over time. But on this program the conclusion was more that the difference in species was primarily caused by “switches” in the genes and not changes in the DNA itself. For example they showed that man contains the same gene that controls development of arms as a fish that controls development of fins. In birds it creates a wing and what causes the differences is a factor of the switching that turns on the gene for a time. Much of the DNA is actually common in all animals. Hmmmm doesn’t a switch require someone to turn it on and hold it on for the proper amount of time.
 
The first couple were expelled from the Garden where things were perfect and into … where? The Catechism tells us the Scripture uses “figurative language.” They were made in the image of God, not the image of animals. One way to interpret this is that Adam and Eve were beings of spirit and the “garden” a place of sanctuary for them in a spiritual state, but that they willfully challenged God somehow, and were sent to earth to live in human form.

When we read that “sin entered the world” through Adam, earthquakes aren’t sins. Animals killing one another aren’t sins. Only humans can sin by choosing that which is not God. God can have waited (no Time in Eternity) for a species to have such a complex nervous system that it could connect with the Divine thought (prayer and consolation) and placed Adam and Eve in the bodies of that species (H. sapiens). Note a passage in the story in Scripture where God “makes clothes” for them. Our loving Father would never abandon us.

Figurative language is the operative phrase. Evolution is no way diminishes Scripture or the Faith. God created everything and called it good. Including processes of change, so that creation could show by it’s very existence that yearning for God present in all that is not God. I’ve always thought Saint Francis understood this instinctively.
This idea that a complex nervous nervous system developed that “could connect with the Divine thought” has no scientific support.

“figurative language” is only part of the story.

From the Catholic Answers Library:

"Adam and Eve: Real People

"It is equally impermissible to dismiss the story of Adam and Eve and the fall (Gen. 2–3) as a fiction. A question often raised in this context is whether the human race descended from an original pair of two human beings (a teaching known as monogenism) or a pool of early human couples (a teaching known as polygenism).

"In this regard, Pope Pius XII stated: “When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains either that after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parents of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now, it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the teaching authority of the Church proposed with regard to original sin which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam in which through generation is passed onto all and is in everyone as his own” (Humani Generis 37).

“The story of the creation and fall of man is a true one, even if not written entirely according to modern literary techniques. The Catechism states, “The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents” (CCC 390).”

Peace,
Ed
 
As Catholics, we are allowed to believe in a literal 6 days of creation as did the majority of the early Church Fathers and as scripture teaches.
Allowed but not required. It is definitely that Adam and Eve were literal people, and that they were the first people. It is not required to believe that the creation story was exactly 6/24 hour days (even though I myself tend to think it is.) The lessons learned from the story can be learned with or without believing that, and that is what is important.
 
Adam and Eve were real literal people. That is Catholic Dogma
Nothing I said contradicts that. The Second Person of the Trinity existed before He Incarnated on earth in human form: Jesus, the “last Adam.”
 
This idea that a complex nervous nervous system developed that “could connect with the Divine thought” has no scientific support.
Actually, it has rather a lot of scientific support as more and more neuroscientists hook up contemplative nuns to systems that record what parts of the brain and what kinds of impulses are activated at what times. There is a section of our brains that is activated whenever someone enters our presence. So, if you are sitting in an empty room and someone walks in, this area becomes active. I think it’s in the right temporal lobe. Interestingly, nuns in deep meditation consistently have this area of the brain become active as other parts become inactive, even when they are praying alone in a room.
 
I’ve read the reports. It does not prove that man needed to develop a complex nervous system. In other words, scientists can detect changes in brain activity in certain situations, but there is no data to confirm that God, or any supernatural being, is being contacted.

I think scientists have reached a false conclusion regarding spirituality:

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1847442.stm

Scientists studying near death experiences think that whatever happened was not real. It was just the brain functioning in a certain way under certain circumstances. Efforts have been made to detect the soul but there has been no success in that area.

Peace,
Ed
 
Nothing I said contradicts that. The Second Person of the Trinity existed before He Incarnated on earth in human form: Jesus, the “last Adam.”
Here’s what you said that confuses me:“They were made in the image of God, not the image of animals. One way to interpret this is that Adam and Eve **were beings of spirit **and the “garden” a place of sanctuary for them in a spiritual state, but that they willfully challenged God somehow, and **were sent to earth **to live in human form.”

Seems you are suggesting that Adam and Eve were not physical beings but lived in a spirit world and then were sent to earth. That sounds like Mormonism. Are you are former Mormon?
 
Im taking a biology course right now in college and one of the recurring themes is evolution. I know that the Catholic Church says that evolution is a possible way that God would have brought humans to the world, and I am fine with that. The problem that is bothering me is that if we did evolve, natural disasters, and diseases would have happened before us, such as with previous animals who went extinct. I thought that original sin brought diseases and such into the world. Is there any explanation for this? Thanks for your answers.
Take a look here: IDvolution
 
That sounds like Mormonism. Are you are former Mormon?
I’m not a topic. Since I know nothing of Mormonism as you call it, I have no idea if what I wrote sounds like something you’d find in that belief system or not. But I do know that it’s not the topic.
 
This is not scientific at all. These people believe this life is all there is.
They are scientists and they believe in life after death and that science can demonstrate that as factual. Possibly it’s confusing because as scientists they use scientific terminology and not religious to describe the same things. For instance, this: “the all knowledge non-local timeless space-less domain” is how a scientist defines what we would call Eternity. But I think to get more deeply into it, there’d have to be another thread more specifically on the topic of the institute. I do think the work they do informs the question in the op.
 
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