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StAnastasia
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Fat chance. Ours is a Church open to the future, not one imprisoned solely in the past.
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buffalo
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Yup, that’s what the other heretics said too. I think I remember a gnostic heresy…
Is that what your goal is? Perhaps you should start a new church.
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edwest2
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“open to the future”? Do you believe that wisdom, knowledge or enlightenment poured into anyone’s head the moment the calendar changed from the 20th to the 21st Century? You are talking about the calendar myth. No one can predict the future.
Apparently, you think constant Church teaching represents imprisonment and your emotions run high whenever you hear the words change or future. Divine revelation is not dependent on man.
Peace,
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rossum
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At my uni it was the Medics and the Engineers. I was a mere physicist and well back in the pack.Actually, remembering the biologists I knew back at University… mind you, they were nothing compared to the Doctors and nurses!
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A_Dancer_Whirls
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Religion is irrational. If it was rational there would be know need for faith. Anyway its just my opinion, but i for one am glad we are free from the likes of creationsim in the UK…I’ll bet you do! Although it isn’t actually quite that - no matter how much many atheists like yourself to delude themselves that it is
Anyway, as far as I can tell, blind faith seems to be on the increase - specifically in that Dawkins arguments have actually made sense, and effectively discredited religion on a rational basis
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tjm190
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Your ‘infestation’ may be less overt, but don’t let your guard down!
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7613403.stm
(note- the wording of this post was clearly in jest so using it has evidence for any anti-evolution argument will acomplish little besides making you look silly)
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StAnastasia
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I don’t need to start a new church – it’s here already.
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StAnastasia
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No, it’s not Church teaching that represents imprisonment. Dogma that is irrevocably wedded to one world view is what imprisons us, and when the world view changes, either our interpretation of dogma changes, or the dogma falls by the wayside.
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Mystic_Banana
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When is faith irrational? The most irrational faith is that which doesn’t even realise it is one. Catholic Faith is more far rational than the unrecognised faith many modern atheists delude themselves is actually conclusive, empirical knowledge, which they would deny others the right to question or disbelieve
The scariest fundamentalism of all!
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buffalo
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Atheism is irrational - see The Irrational Atheist
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buffalo
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Oh yes - I forgot the CCC.
You make a fatal mistake in confusing the development of doctrine which unveils the hidden vs evolving doctrine which departs from the truth.
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Ed_CA
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Science is not debunking Darwin. Darwin assumed the only mechanism for evolution was incremental adaptations. In large populations, adaptations are very slowly spread. In small populations, after major extinctions, mutations spread very rapid and the most favorable mutations spread. Darwin did not know about mutations, DNA, etc. He made observations about various changes within a genus to explain various species.
Is the real issue that God continuously creates the universe and life indirectly or exactly in 6 24 hour days, and that God finished on October 20, 4004 BC, at 11AM Universal Time. If one believes this, then one should start another church and be this church’s pastor.
The assertion that most of the scientists and biologists are atheists is ludicrous. Atheism is found in good solid American business people, mechanics, clerks, athletes, etc.
Is the real issue that God continuously creates the universe and life indirectly or exactly in 6 24 hour days, and that God finished on October 20, 4004 BC, at 11AM Universal Time. If one believes this, then one should start another church and be this church’s pastor.
The assertion that most of the scientists and biologists are atheists is ludicrous. Atheism is found in good solid American business people, mechanics, clerks, athletes, etc.
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buffalo
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This assertion is proved by the admissions the biologists have made themselves.
2nd point - most atheists have usurped the good points of Catholicism but discard the God part. So yes atheists can be persons of good will, but they were not born in nor do they live in a vacuum.
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reggieM
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Interesting. The notion that defined dogmas can change is heretical in itself. There is no support for that idea in Catholic teaching and it has been condemned as the modernist heresy.
Your theological views are consistent with the fact that you are irrevocably wedded to a single, Darwinian world view. In this view, the defined dogmas of the Church are not permanent and they must change based on one’s worldview.
This destroys the Catholic religion. In that mind-set, there is no coherent reason for anyone to ever want or need to become a Catholic. It’s easy to see that modernist-heretical-Catholicism would be contingent on various world-views and could not provide enduring truths. That kind of religion is exactly what people like Richard Dawkins say it is – a useless appendage on the history of human thought. It provides nothing of value, nothing with any certainty and nothing that can be embraced with confidence that it has come from God.
Religion would necessarily be subservient to the claims of material-science. This means, when the scientific consensus states that abortion is necessary for the health of society, or that euthanasia is also a benefit – then modernist-Catholicism cannot point to any unchangable dogmas to refute that (and is forced to go along with it).
It’s not surprising as I see it – many Catholics blindly follow this path and their religion is drained of meaning in the meantime. It’s an illusory world. Their best hope is that atheists might become friendly with them some day. If so, they’ll think a great victory has been won.
But atheism will simply destroy modernist-Catholicism, as it has done in Europe. After that, Islam will eat everything in its path.
Thankfully, the Catholic Church is a divine institution and God will permit the modernist heresy to cause enormous damage, but He will preserve the Church through persecutions and chaos – and it will be purified from these evils and grow stronger in the future.
Meanwhile, the faithful have to deal with false teachers - proclaiming heresy from the midst of the flock.
Archbishop Burke of the Apostolic Signatura would certainly be interested in a theologian who proclaims that sacred dogmas can and must change though. The only thing preventing his knowledge about this is that the modernist in question conceals his identity.
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buffalo
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Great point. Even Dawkins acknowledges what StA fails to.
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StAnastasia
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Ed-Ca, we celebrated Ussher’s Creation Day in my office yesterday, with cake at 11:00 a.m. It was very nice.
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buffalo
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Fools.
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StAnastasia
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Acknowledges what?
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StAnastasia
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Buffalo, I thought it would please you to hear about that. We had a lot of fun celebrating Creation Day. Are you juswt a sour puss? Do you just hate parties and celebrations? Why can’t we hold a party without you calling us “fools”?
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