EWTN EF Mass yesterday

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The bishop who celebrated the EF Pontifical High Mass wore a Gothic chasuble. This is good because it dispells the myth that fiddlebacks are the proper vestment of the EF and the gothic chasuble is the proper vestment of the OF.

Another interesting thing is that the bishop carried his staff facing back. Am I correct, that traditionally a bishop who isn’t in his diocese carries the staff facing back and the ordinary carries it facing forward? This makes sense because it is the ordinary who is the shepherd of the people in a diocese.

I know what the deacon and sub-deacon do. However, what do the archpriest, assistant priest, and the multiple masters of ceremony do at a Pontifical High Mass? I know that there isn’t concelebration in the EF except in two or three limited circumstances.

How did the concelebrated masses in the EF look? I know that there were three times that concelebration occurred (ordination of a priest, consecration of a bishop and the Chrism Mass on Holy Thursday).

One last question: my parents have an family Bible that was given to them as a wedding present in 1964. The Bible has pictures from Vatican II. It has a picture of bishops encircling an altar concelebrating the Mass. The cutline reads that ancient form of the concelebrated Mass was rediscovered and restored at V-2. I am safely assuming that since the pictures were taking at Vatican II, the mass was either to the 1963 Missal or the previous edition. How were those concelebrated masses celebrated?
 
The Holy Tridentine Mass ** (Extraordinary Form) broadcast on EWTN yesterday . . .* with Auxilliary Bishop Joseph N. Perry and the Father C. Frank Phillip, Pastor of the St. John Cantius Parish . . . and their large group of Canons Regular*** . . . *was breathtakingly reverent and beautiful *. . . and the group’s conversation with EWTN’s Father Joseph on **EWTN Live **last night . . . with reruns today . . . was marvelously informative . . . The Chicago group also officiated at the EWTN chapel for the Holy Mass this morning . . . which will be broadcast several times on EWTN today . . . GREAT. . . 🙂 day . . . at EWTN!

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This was third different order that EWTN featured saying the EF. The Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, the Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest and now the Canons Regular of St. John Cantius have each celebrated the EF on EWTN.

One thing I have noticed is that each group was subtly different. I can’t put my finger on the difference because I’m a neophyte to the EF Mass. But they were each beautiful. I have learned that there is a diversity in the EF.

Can anyone here comment on the differences in “style” (for lack of a better word) and emphasis that each group puts in the EF.
 
I personally prefer Gothic chasubles, but this is no more than my own taste.

There is a beautiful velvet fiddleback richly ornamented with gold thread and seed pearls in the museum at St. Xavier Bec in Arizona. I know it would be too hot for ordinary use, but it was intented to be used at the altar of God and not just gawked at.
 
I watched this mass and taped it as well as the next 2 days after the EF mass. Growing up in a completely Novus Ordo society I found the EF really beautiful and it brought tears to my eyes. I have yet to attend a TLM, but would like to. I did have trouble following was was being said at mass before the Kyrie Elesion. Sill the same, I truly loved the mass.
 
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The bishop who celebrated the EF Pontifical High Mass wore a Gothic chasuble. This is good because it dispells the myth that fiddlebacks are the proper vestment of the EF and the gothic chasuble is the proper vestment of the OF.

Another interesting thing is that the bishop carried his staff facing back. Am I correct, that traditionally a bishop who isn’t in his diocese carries the staff facing back and the ordinary carries it facing forward? This makes sense because it is the ordinary who is the shepherd of the people in a diocese.
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I haven;t been able to locate this in any book of ceremonies, even the Latin ones - I think it’s one of those things that can be attributed to custom, like left-knee genuflections.
I know what the deacon and sub-deacon do. However, what do the archpriest, assistant priest, and the multiple masters of ceremony do at a Pontifical High Mass? I know that there isn’t concelebration in the EF except in two or three limited circumstances.
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The assistant priest basically holds the bugia for the bishop severla times, and also arranges the Canon (book) at the Offertory, and assists the bishop by turning over the pages. He also removes the missal when necessary and swaps the missal with the canon as required. He raises the bishops chasuble at the elevation, and also receives the kis of peace form him, which he gives to the deacon (and choir)
How did the concelebrated masses in the EF look? I know that there were three times that concelebration occurred (ordination of a priest, consecration of a bishop and the Chrism Mass on Holy Thursday).
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The Chrism Mass was not a sacramental concelebration but only ceremonial (save for a few dioceses by local custom). At ordinations the priest kneels in the sanctuary near the foot of the altar and recites everything form Suscipe Sancte Pater onward with the bishop. For the ordination of a bishop, the newly consecrated bishop does the same but he stands at the Epistle side of the altar. Also unlike prests he receives both species, and it is not administered to him (i.e. the consecrating bishop does not say to him “Corpus Domini, etc.”
One last question: my parents have an family Bible that was given to them as a wedding present in 1964. The Bible has pictures from Vatican II. It has a picture of bishops encircling an altar concelebrating the Mass. The cutline reads that ancient form of the concelebrated Mass was rediscovered and restored at V-2. I am safely assuming that since the pictures were taking at Vatican II, the mass was either to the 1963 Missal or the previous edition. How were those concelebrated masses celebrated?
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The rite was officially promulgated in 1965 though there were concessions at the Council. The rite was mostly like the rite of today in the NO, differing in a few minor points.
 
I will let you know if I can find it on archive from EWTN
 
The Pontifical High Mass is on the Sancta Missa site, you can stream it.
 
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