Ewtn too secular for me

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And we rave about all the technology we to make us more accessable not to mention the investment yet thats not good enough? Now as far as $300 dollar wardrobe almost every jr. high school or high school is full of kids wearing $100 shoes, pants, shirts etc.
 
And we rave about all the technology we to make us more accessable not to mention the investment yet thats not good enough? Now as far as $300 dollar wardrobe almost every jr. high school or high school is full of kids wearing $100 shoes, pants, shirts etc.
Technology is good and useful if it’s in the right place. If it’s in the wrong place, it’s not very helpful. If you want to create a major news organization that commands respect and that has access to what Reuters, Warner, CNN, United Press, Vatican News Agency and others have, you must place it where it can compete and where it will be noticed and will be easily accessed.

The heart of the Church in America is in Washington, DC. You can get visiting prelates to stop by your station when you’re up the street from the Bishop’s Conference. You can be on hand to get first-hand news from almost every religious order in the USA when you have all of their houses of formation around you. You can get the brightest minds in the American Catholic Church in front of your cameras when they’re across the street at Catholic University, next door at the John Paul II Institute, your neighbors to the left and right when they’re at the Canon Law Society or the Biblical Association. They were unable to do this when they operated out of a single studio in Irondale. They needed to move their technology to where they could make good use of it.

The Franciscans gave it their blessing. Franciscans have always gravitated to cities. From our early days, we moved things from small towns to major cities. The government of the order was moved from Assisi to Paris and later to Rome. Our scholars were moved from Assisi to Parish, Oxfordd, Salamanca and to Padua, where they helped to found the great universities of Europe, universities that they would later hand over to secular Catholics to operate.

If you want something to prosper and to grow, you have to put it where it will grow. It’s not enough to have technology, just as it was not enough for those friars to have scholars and books. They needed students. The students were not going to come to Assisi. They needed to govern an order that had grown all over Europe. They could not keep the center of government is the City of Assisi, up in the mountains, where they were trapped during the winter for lack of good roads. If our Catholic news service wants to play with the big boys, it has to go where the big boys are.

On the other point, I was not asking what are kids wearing. I know what they wear. I also know that they can look good for less than that. I was asking what you have against Mr. Arroyo’s suits. I gave the example of the habit, because you seemed to imply that he dresses expensively. I was trying to say, “So do the nuns and the friars. But if we change that, everyone whill criticize it.” In other words, no matter what Mr. Arroyo wears, someone will criticize. Not to mention the fact that the man earns his money. He works very hard.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Father Mitch Pacwa rocks!

How can explaining Church documents be “too secular?”

As far as Raymond Arroyo’s suits are concerned, the man is on national TV, and quite frankly, his suits don’t look any different to me than any other news anchorman’s do. They’re not Armani. Would one expect him to wear findings from the local WalMart, or worse, the Salvation Army?

I really enjoy the historical docu-dramas, the updates of world news with a Catholic viewpoint, and of course, the coverage of special events.

And I’m still wondering what that huge mushroom-like structure at the World Youth Day Mass at the Spanish air base was supposed to be?
 
Father Mitch Pacwa rocks!

How can explaining Church documents be “too secular?”

As far as Raymond Arroyo’s suits are concerned, the man is on national TV, and quite frankly, his suits don’t look any different to me than any other news anchorman’s do. They’re not Armani. Would one expect him to wear findings from the local WalMart, or worse, the Salvation Army?

I really enjoy the historical docu-dramas, the updates of world news with a Catholic viewpoint, and of course, the coverage of special events.
I too enjoy this part most of all.
And I’m still wondering what that huge mushroom-like structure at the World Youth Day Mass at the Spanish air base was supposed to be?
This is a riot. The whole time that I was watching I kept asking the same question. The only answer that almost made sense to me was by one of the kids from our parish who was there. They tried to hide the lighting in a “cloud” to use the theme from the OT where the Lord led the Israelites with a cloud by day and a column of fire by night.

My feeling is that if this was the idea, they didn’t quite pull it off. To me it looked like a mushroom.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I love EWTN and think the programming is very orthodox. I just don’t get the original person’s post. How in the world can you construe EWTN as unorthodox or too secular?:confused:

Also, I’ve heard that Catholics are among the cheapest givers out there. It’s no wonder Deacon Bill has to keep going on tv to ask for donations. I’d rather have him asking for money so we don’t have to have secular commercials on the network.

Overall, I think EWTN is a blessing from God, and I would hope most Catholics feel the same way.

OT, I can’t wait for the new series called “Saints Alive”. It looks like it’s going to be really good.🙂
Saints Alive is good, I watched the first episode. And it was completely produced by the Knights of Columbus, and most of the staff (including the actors are volunteers)!

My favorite program other than Mother Angelica is “The Journey Home”. Marcus always has interesting guests, and I look forward to his Monday program.
 
As far as Raymond Arroyo’s suits are concerned, the man is on national TV, and quite frankly, his suits don’t look any different to me than any other news anchorman’s do. They’re not Armani. Would one expect him to wear findings from the local WalMart, or worse, the Salvation Army?
I wouldn’t know a good suit from a bad one, so I don’t really think about how much they cost. However, I do know why I don’t much like Raymond Arroyo, and it’s completely unfair and not his fault at all, but I can’t help it. The problem I have is that he has the same coloring, facial shape, and basic hair as Pee Wee Herman, and it creeps me out. I was really glad when I realized what it was, because before that, watching him just made me feel uncomfortable and I didn’t know why. I liked his book, though, because I didn’t have to look at him. 😃

I like EWTN a lot, even though there are shows I don’t enjoy. When I find one of those shows, I have this thing I do about it. I don’t watch them. However, even if I don’t like some shows, I think it’s very important to have examples for how we can take our Catholicism out into the world. To do that, we need to talk about the world to some extent. 🙂

As for technology meaning that nobody has to go anywhere, that’s just funny. I’ve worked in communications for basically my whole working life, and I can tell you that technology is neither foolproof, free, nor the same as being there. I spent years traveling to telecom companies (which I did not enjoy, and got out of as often as I could) because an in-person meeting really is not the same as a teleconference or even a video conference. It’s a bit like talking to someone through those grills they have in prisons (or at least in TV shows about prisons). You can’t ever completely concentrate on what the other person means, because a) you can maybe see facial expressions, but you probably can’t see body language, and b) you can’t ever entirely forget the medium over which you are communicating.

However, nobody wants me to get started on how facebook “friends” you have never met in person are not the same as real friends, so I’ll stop now, before that particular hobby horse gets all the way out of the starting gate. 🙂

–Jen
 
Basically, my thought is this: If you want to have an audience, you have to put out professionally-made productions. That means sets, technology, and all the rest. And you have to go where there are people who can produce professionally. That means technicians of all sorts. These people are unionized and command healthy paychecks. And their work can take a content-rich concept and make or break it. It’s not just the talent of the person in front of the camera. It’s the whole thing.

When I was with New York City Ballet, I got a look at some of the accounting for actually putting on a professional season of four different full-length ballets, not including the salaries of the dancers. We were only a part of it, maybe twenty-eight percent of the budget. The figures were astonishing. Costuming alone ran into the millions, and believe me, those costumes got reused again and again. There were entire teams of costumers, makeup professionals, and hairdressers, just for starters. There were special effects and lighting technicians, and they had better get it right, or the whole production would be a mess. You got an appreciation of the cost involved when you went from rehearsal to run-through (the fully costumed, fully orchestrated full length rehearsal before opening night.) No way can you do something at this kind of professional level on the cheap! It wouldn’t work on a stage, and it doesn’t work in the studios, either.

Frankly, I’m amazed at the quality of the productions on the budget that EWTN has.

I missed the first episode of Saints Alive!, and I’m busily kicking myself about that.
 
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  1. The Raymond Arroyo and Laura Ingrham Show
  2. Jonette B. and father I forget his name show
Laura Ingrham was just a guest at the The World Over show that Raymond hosts. She is not a regular. Raymond and Laura wrote a book together and they were promoting it. I personnally like Raymond. I love the book he wrote about Mother Angelica and the devotional books he put together with Mother’s prayers, etc.

The Women of Grace is also a good show. It is very informative on women’s issues especially regarding the dangers of the birth control pill. I’ve watched it a few times and it never is againt any teaching against the Catholic Church. I’ve heard on EWTN radio the Crossing the Goal show. I didn’t see anything wrong with men discussing their relationship with God and how important it is in their lives. Both of these shows always make God the focal point.

I love EWTN but don’t have time to watch every show. I do record Mother’s shows, Super Saints, Speaking of Saints and Angels of God. I think EWTN has a balance of good Catholic shows showing devotions the Rosary, etc and other shows that address the issues going on in the world. They are all from a orthodox Catholic perspective. I’m old school Catholic and I have yet to watch a show that seemed too liberal for my tastes.
 
I’ve read this thread with great interest. I can honestly say I might still be on my journey to Catholicism had I not encountered EWTN. I watched The Journey Home pretty faithfully for more than 5 years before I finally took the leap and entered RCIA two years ago. Without the knowledge and insight I gained during those years from EWTN and The Journey Home, I might have bolted in those final months. But I showed up and joined during Easter 2010.

I am the primary caregiver for my 96 year old mom and am pretty much unable to attend mass or church. I’m unable to have someone here at those hours. So I am definitely one who has benefited greatly from EWTN’s outreach. For someone like me, who was deeply concerned that I be instructed in the more traditional way of the Church, EWTN was–and continues to be–a gift. Those in the Church may not fully realize how much EWTN gives to those outside looking in.

I continue to watch The Journey Home because of the depth of discussions and the variety of ways others have made the same journey. It is hard to find conversations that are so frank and deep on TV or even in today’s culture. It makes me think, reflect and learn. The same with Fr Corapi. I’m a fan of Faith and Culture and have learned a lot from the discussions and seldom miss a show. I also enjoy EWTN with Fr Pacwa, EWTN Bookmark and The World Over. They teach me a lot about the Catholic world and culture, and what it means to live Catholic.

I haven’t been Catholic long enough to know what it is like to experience EWTN as a fully-formed Catholuc. I imagine it is quite different. But for one outsider, EWTN did its job and I am grateful.
 
I’ve read this thread with great interest. I can honestly say I might still be on my journey to Catholicism had I not encountered EWTN. I watched The Journey Home pretty faithfully for more than 5 years before I finally took the leap and entered RCIA two years ago. Without the knowledge and insight I gained during those years from EWTN and The Journey Home, I might have bolted in those final months. But I showed up and joined during Easter 2010.

I am the primary caregiver for my 96 year old mom and am pretty much unable to attend mass or church. I’m unable to have someone here at those hours. So I am definitely one who has benefited greatly from EWTN’s outreach. For someone like me, who was deeply concerned that I be instructed in the more traditional way of the Church, EWTN was–and continues to be–a gift. Those in the Church may not fully realize how much EWTN gives to those outside looking in.

I continue to watch The Journey Home because of the depth of discussions and the variety of ways others have made the same journey. It is hard to find conversations that are so frank and deep on TV or even in today’s culture. It makes me think, reflect and learn. The same with Fr Corapi. I’m a fan of Faith and Culture and have learned a lot from the discussions and seldom miss a show. I also enjoy EWTN with Fr Pacwa, EWTN Bookmark and The World Over. They teach me a lot about the Catholic world and culture, and what it means to live Catholic.

I haven’t been Catholic long enough to know what it is like to experience EWTN as a fully-formed Catholuc. I imagine it is quite different. But for one outsider, EWTN did its job and I am grateful.
First of all, I think it’s wonderful that you’re taking care of your mother. God will bless you for that. Second, EWTN has something for everyone. I don’t like the journey home, because I don’t understand it. I was Jewish. I have never understood Protestantism. I have only known three Prostestant people in my life. They were wonderful people too, Baptists.

I like other programs. I like Fr. Mitch and Fr. Benedict G, also Life on the Rock. I want to catch the new one on the saints. It’s on at a bad time. We have community dinner at that time.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
At this point it just seems like the OP is desperately grasping at things to criticize EWTN for rather than provide anything remotely legitimate. I appreciate EWTN’s shows, and they do help me to learn about the Catholic faith. I have not heard anything on their shows that is out of line with what I’ve read in the Catechism or other reliable resources.
 
Hello Vikk
I’m glad you became or are becoming a Catholic. I hope you find a good traditinal church near you. Also a good tradional pastor. They are getting harder to find. We had a newly ordained priest in our parish and one thing he made clear was he did not like celebrating mass @ 6:00am cause it was too early for him. Thank God oir prayers were answered and he is longer in our parish. Thing is that was the only thing he didn’t like but the list is too long. Again welcome and hope your mom is fine.
 
I thibnk I’ve posted a comment before on this site but saw such a wonderful program yesterday on EWTN that I had to make an additional comment. I watched the Pope’s visit to Germany – there wereTHOUSANDS of young people at the Mass he celebrated there, and it was wonderful to see so many youngsters absolutely thrilled that they could attend a Mass celebratedby the Pope!!!
I’m sure this was only available on EWTN!!!
 
I thibnk I’ve posted a comment before on this site but saw such a wonderful program yesterday on EWTN that I had to make an additional comment. I watched the Pope’s visit to Germany – there wereTHOUSANDS of young people at the Mass he celebrated there, and it was wonderful to see so many youngsters absolutely thrilled that they could attend a Mass celebratedby the Pope!!!
I’m sure this was only available on EWTN!!!
I, on the other hand, stopped watching the coverage. It was not EWTN’s fault. The coverage was great. I found that the German prelates who were at the head seemed to lack joy. I was not expecting them to tap dance or play the lute…

But I was present when His Holiness came to the USA, again in Sydney and I watched WYD in Madrid. The local bishops were beaming. The German bishops didn’t give me that same feeling. I’m sure they were happy to have the pope in town. I did like the sanctuary that they created at the airport, with the traditional crucifix and statues on either side. No one has done that before.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Considering the scandalous and sinful garbage on 90% of the other TV channels I am floored that anyone Catholic would sit and pick apart the EWTN programing that is Mother Angelica’s mission.

Talk about missing the point.
 
Dear totus
As far as garbage in tv land I agree. But I don’t just sit there and nit pik ewtn programming. I saw few shows and thats what did it for me. But I haven’t watched since. Also I’m not telling anyone not to watch it. That was just my opinion.
Tomas10
 
I just download episodes from the internet so i wouldn’t know about all ETWN programming. It makes sense that any Christian media has to be wary of focussing too much on selling personal material rather than the main focus of spreading the Gospel.

Thanks to Mother Angelia for EWTN.
 
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