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*Okay iluvmybabies…this should brighten your day a bit. I just talked with the woman here I mention above, who went through this. The difference between her and you, is that SHE WANTED his rights removed. He agreed. TOGETHER they signed papers taking away his parental rights (and thus obligations) So, she said, while she is not a lawyer, BOTH PARENTS have to sign the papers, to have one or the other’s rights removed. Has to be a joint agreement. She said the courts gave her a hard time because her youngest would become a ward of the state, if she didn’t have a will in place. She had a will in place, and that eased the burden of the state. So, there you go. Unless you consent, he can hem and haw and threaten all he likes…he needs to accept that he is a father, and that he needs to pay child support.

I apologize 1ke, I didn’t have all the facts straight from the woman here at my work, who went through this recently. 😊

I would stop replying to the man. Just give this to your lawyers, and have them continue to fight for your children’s support. Don’t allow this to consume you. Your ex is one of those people in life who for whatever reason, is angry and miserable. Don’t let him pull your strings anymore. Save your energy for being a good mom, and take this one day at a time. *
Thanks Whatevergirl…I have asked him to stop writing to me… Hopefully things will get better…Thanks for the information!
 
*yes 1ke, I addressed this above. I didn’t get my facts straight. Both parties, mom AND dad, need to sign an agreement before relinquishing rights, and according to the woman I work with, the state will not grant it immediately. *
I think we were posting at the same time!
 
Certainly it can happen-- by mutual agreement and a court process.

But **he **cannot make it happen by himself simply to get out of child support. Nor can he just say it and it happens. It is a legal process, and iluv has **rights **to receive child support.

She needs to talk to her lawyer, find out the laws governing this in her state, and not put the cart before the horse.
Thanks 1ke for the help and support! It’s greatly appreciated…I can’t stand this stuff with courts and laws and exhusbands…UGH! I just went to court for one thing I really didn’t want to have to go again…thank you though…Makes me not get so panicky about him…thanks!
 
I don’t know which state you live in, but here in Texas you would contact the Attorney General’s office and they handle the child care payments at no cost to you.

Regarding validity (remember here, I am not a lawyer), he can give up his parental rights but his court-ordered obligations regarding child support remain.

When you say that you researched it, did you search the internet or did you consult an attorney?

Peace

Tim
Pretty much just read it through net…But 1ke just metioned a mutual agreement and signatures… Every time I try to contact an attorney they want to charge me up front $200 dollars…Right now can’t afford that so can’t afford a consultation…I live in Illinois and so far there has been no help here for me at all…So just sitting here picking my brain and making it hurt!!!

Thanks for your help!
 
*Just as an aside…you need to really stand up for yourself when it comes to your mom. She does nothing but degrade you, from the posts I’ve read. Yes, we are to honor our parents, but that doesn’t mean accepting constant put downs. If she wants to fork over some money so you can pay your bills every month, great. But, if not, she needs to mind her own business. You’re a single mom, doing her best with little or not help from her. She needs to either be helpful, or she needs to stop interfering, and I’d tell her that. Enough. She does nothing to help you, but feels the need to offer you belittlement every time you turn around. Start taking control of your life…bit by bit.

They have helped me before and it gets thrown in my face…ALL THE TIME! WHen they were here that’s all I heard about…How she sends me things for the kids during their bdays and Christmas time and Easter and Valentines Day and Halloween, and etc etc etc…I was like I thought those were gifts? UGH! SHe has helped me a year ago, and then for the kids’ First Communion this past April, so again, it gets thrown in my face what an ungrateful child I am etc…I can’t tell her off or tell her to leave me alone…Then she tells me what an ungrateful child I am even more… Not only that but the last time I spoke to them my dad stopped talking to me for months… Then he said " I forgive you for not knowing what you did! We know all you do is make mistakes but you need to grow up someday!" And then I get to hear it from my mother “One day you will be sorry for all you have done to us!” It’s like uhm, what wanting to live? I don’t understand… I am not perfect I will never be but to them my sister whom tells her off whenever she feels like it is… I don’t disrespect my parents… But I can’t talk to them because all they tell me “after all the help we have given you!!” It’s like I am disgracing them… It’s really frustrating… I don’t like being called fat nor reminded of all my mistakes over and over…I all ready have to live with them and my own obesity…As if I want to be like this?!*

**1) Stand up to your mom
2) Don’t allow your ex to hurt or manipulate you anymore

Trying not to…But he’s gotten away with everything…All the time…**
  1. Give a timeline to your current bf, finding a job needs to be at the top of his priority list
Yes working on that, thanks…

You feel the way you do because you feel you have no control. You have all the control. Trust in God. But, don’t keep relying on people to change…love those around you, but get on with living your own life, and be happy. Your ex is not going to change, your mom is not going to change…your bf could change…only you can change HOW YOU REACT. Start telling people the way it is. If you must speak to your ex…I’d say…YOU WILL PAY ME CHILD SUPPORT. To your mom…YOU WILL STOP BELITTLING ME, AND MAKING ME FEEL BAD. Don’t let people hurt you. I know the situations hurt, but you can’t change people, only how you cope and react to them. Once your mom gets the idea that you’re done accepting her verbal abuse, she will back down, trust me. She doesn’t back down, because you don’t tell her to. I had this with my sister–always butting in, but never helping me. I said one day…do you pay my bills? She said no, I said then don’t tell me how to run my household. We didn’t talk for a while. Hey, standing up for yourself has some backlash, but over time, my sister learned to respect me. Praying for you :hug1:

I feel this way because I am going through a lot of problems…My health isn’t doing so well…Just went to court for another person doing me wrong, my son’s ADD not going so well…my family is not leaving me alone, Children rebelling-especially my daughter, exhusband doing this and threatening and ****, and bf unable to find a job…AND I have to work extra to make ends meet…This is why I am feeling this way…And like I said I have spoken like this to my parents but it has backfired…and things didn’t go well…My father even almost struck me from telling them to stop treating me like a child…

I say all of this with charity, I hope you know. :o
Thanks for your help and support…It’s greatly appreciated…
 
You need to get a lawyer.

Most of what is happening to you is because you don’t have legal representation and your abusive ex is continuing his veral, emotional, and psychological abuse because he thinks he can.

Lawyers take pro bono cases. Contact an abused women’s hotline in your area or Catholic Charities. They will help you find legal representation for free or low cost.

He cannot do anything regarding relinquishing his rights without your signed consent through the courts. You can simply refuse. It’s your decision to make. There are pros and cons to this, so you need to talk to legal counsel.

You can take out a restraining order against your parents if necessary, if they literally come to your home and try to harrass you. Honestly, they cannot make you do anything.
Hi again, sorry but called here in Illinois, I haven’t found one that will help me with this as a pro-bono case… I have and they say I am not abused…LOL

I understand and hopefully things will get better…I asked him to stop writing to me…hopefully he will listen…

Right but how will that look for my kids?! They won’t be happy and I can’t live with myself knowing I did that to my family!!! 😦
 
*I would try to put your parents into perspective. They sound like they have a lot of issues, and a good way to let it go, is to tell yourself that you will never do to your own kids, what they do to you. Your parents, while they could consider some of what they tell you as ‘advice,’ it’s been nothing but hurtful. I think that the best way to get over the pain they have caused you, is to be a different kind of parent to your children. No conditions. Love them without conditions. Most likely your mom and dad were raised the way they raised you…by blaming, shaming, insulting, etc. My BIL (now my ex BIL technically) did this to me when I was growing up. (he raised me with my sister as you know) I remember the insults, and even when I was married…‘why did you marry a man 10 yrs older…why did you get pregnant so soon after you married…why this …why that…’

Soon they were asking themselves I’m sure…‘why doesn’t sharon ever come to visit us?’ :cool: I used to tolerate it too…until one day, I told my sister that I had had enough. You don’t need to tell your parents off…but I would establish healthy boundaries. When your mom starts flying with insults, over the phone, I’d say…have to go, mom…kids need me. Over and over and over. I would not sit around listening to how messed up I am. :rolleyes:

You will get through this, rely on God. And be strong. *
 
I’m not what to say except that I would talk to a lawyer and find out. Many will give free advice or do some searches on Google etc first.

Most importantly I just wanted to apologize from the male sex for your exhusband’s deplorable behavior and let you know that you are in my prayers!

Joe
 
Hi again, sorry but called here in Illinois, I haven’t found one that will help me with this as a pro-bono case… I have and they say I am not abused…LOL
illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/about/probono.html

ilcadv.org/legal/IL_list_legserv.htm#20

illinoislegalaid.org/

catholiccharities.net/ccla

lafchicago.org/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/
Right but how will that look for my kids?! They won’t be happy and I can’t live with myself knowing I did that to my family!!! 😦
You didn’t do anything to your family. Stop blaming yourself for your ex husband’s bad behavior.
 
Have you called your Priest?

Have you called the St. Vincent De Paul Society in your Parish/City/Diocese?

Have you called Catholic Charities?

All of these will have ways to refer you to legal assistance.

Here are some of the Illinois links I found, not sure which Diocese you are in:

catholiccharities.net/services/legal/

cc-doj.org/

ccdop.org/

When he sends you mail, do not open it - mark it “return to sender” and put it back in the box. That is how you keep him from writing you.

This person cannot MAKE you do anything. You must abide by the legal aspect of your custody agreement. Outside of that, he cannot make you do anything.

Please, get some counseling (again, your Priest or Catholic Charities can point you in the right direction).
 
Have you called your Priest?

Have you called the St. Vincent De Paul Society in your Parish/City/Diocese?

Have you called Catholic Charities?

All of these will have ways to refer you to legal assistance.
I second all of these. I had need of a lawyer last year. Where I live, they usually charge a $200 consultation fee. My priest recommended her to me (and I told her where I got the recommendation - she is a fellow parishioner). She didn’t charge me that fee.

After that, your lawyer can make it so that your ex is responsible for paying your lawyer’s fees. I am not sure how it works, but it is definitely something to look into.
 
They do and their biggest issue is, at least for my mother, control, and for my father- have any of you seen the movie “I Robot?” If you have remember the main computer what she as trying to do-protect them at the cost of freedom? Well that’s what my father makes me feel…As if he just wants to protect me so much from messing up my life even more- according to them- that he’s willing to do whatever it takes to make me realize all the mistakes I have made and try to control me in some way… I am happy. I like my little house…SURE I could be in a huge 3 bedroom but my daughter would sleep in the boys bedroom all the time, so I am in a 2 bedroom so she doesn’t have another room to mess up. And it’s small, and cozy, but it’s the roof that we need… I am not into luxuries nor want them, I am fine with the house I am renting besides it’s what I can afford at the time… It’s in an ok neighborhood…Sure the landlord hasn’t kept up with it, but how many people have ever had to deal with things like this? I mean I am at least grateful it’s my own little place… So I live far from family, the point is so that I can be myself…Not be chained around… OK so I don’t have the greatest job in the world, show me what company is going to pay now-a-days someone with just 3 years of college education and 5 years of work experience more than 13 bucks an hour? I don’t know many…Especially when there are people with Bachelor’s willing to work the same jobs!? -something my parent’s aren’t understanding… I do complain about what I have sometimes, when I feel down, but five seconds later I am like “what am i talking about!??” And I thank GOD for everything I have… Yes that my bf is having issues finding a job…But who isn’t now-a-days?! I am making it, without luxuries nor going places nor anything else but we are surviving… There are more people with a lot less than what I have…SURE I don’t have a house phone right now nor a cell phone, but it’s ok, I have internet still at home and that’s a great way to communicate…Besides I will give that new phone magic jack a try it’s only 30 bucks a year, so it should be fine…just gotta get the money and I will in a few weeks… Yes I do have to work a little later to make ends meet but who doesn’t now-a-days…Am I living that terribly that I making another terrible mistake in my life?!

I do not treat my children the way my parents treat me… I never have and never will…I do not control my kids, try to discipline them but not control them…They make their own decisions on you know things like what color of clothes to wear, shoes, what kind of sports they want to play, what color ice cream they want to eat, etc…AND Even for school work…My daughter learned really fast that if she didn’t do her homework she was going to deal with the consequences…She chose one day not to do her homework and had dentention, she has never made that choice again… I don not tell my kids how imperfect they are, I don’t think so… On the contrary no matter what I try to elevate my kids… My daughter has been eating a bit too much lately and has gained some lbs I have been trying to educate her so she doesn’t become obese and end up getting sick like how I am now because of it… But I won’t do what my mother tells me “look at your sister why can’t you work out as hard as she does so that you can be skinny like her!” It’s annoying!

I love my parents and I get a small break from listening to their rantings and putdowns and then all of a sudden they just need to find a reason to do this…My mother was raised by her aunt, my grandma-the one I consider grandma- unfortunately my grandma wasn’t really all that kind to her and ended kicking my mother out into the street because of what some woman told her about my mom…she was only 17… Then she was picked on by my grandma when she was marrying my dad, she didn’t approve of him and felt mom could do better…so every man I meet is not good enough…unless he’s rich…just because my father came from a wealthy family as if that did anything at all when we all moved from another country to the USA?! Whatever…Anyhow…my father was dad’s and mom’s boy… out of 16 kids…Everyone loved him and he was spoiled to the bone-wealthy family back then in our country…Since grandparent’s both died I think 9 kids that are left from the 16 or something like that have done pretty much away with the riches…My father hasn’t seen a penny…Anyhow, but even though my grandfather gave my dad everything my dad tells me he would have rather have a father to point out his flaws than one that just kept it all in…Even though my grandfather loved my father more than anything and never treated him with indifference or anything after all the mishaps my father got into…Even after he ran away with my mom my grandfather still paid my dads university education, always gave them money and food, and I am sure helped buy their first home in our country…before I was born… I don’t want anything like that, just to be left alone…so I can be myself…I can’t even get that…

Oh I have tried to change the subject, ignore her insults, tried to speak about something else, fakely agreed with her on her rantings, etc etc etc…Nothing has worked…Things still get rubbed in my face and still brings up old stuff…My mother once told me she didn’t hold grudges but I guess I must be the exception…Because when I was married to my ex once I made the comment to my sister that our mother all she does is point fingers and goes to church, I apologized for it like 100 times but I still get it thrown in my face…

Thanks, trying…
 
I’m not what to say except that I would talk to a lawyer and find out. Many will give free advice or do some searches on Google etc first.

Most importantly I just wanted to apologize from the male sex for your exhusband’s deplorable behavior and let you know that you are in my prayers!

Joe
Thank you… It’s been a bit of a disappointment…thank you for your prayers and thoughts!
 
I second all of these. I had need of a lawyer last year. Where I live, they usually charge a $200 consultation fee. My priest recommended her to me (and I told her where I got the recommendation - she is a fellow parishioner). She didn’t charge me that fee.

After that, your lawyer can make it so that your ex is responsible for paying your lawyer’s fees. I am not sure how it works, but it is definitely something to look into.
Thank you hurtandhealing, will definitely give it a try!
 
Have you called your Priest?

Have you called the St. Vincent De Paul Society in your Parish/City/Diocese?

Have you called Catholic Charities?

All of these will have ways to refer you to legal assistance.

Here are some of the Illinois links I found, not sure which Diocese you are in:

catholiccharities.net/services/legal/

cc-doj.org/

ccdop.org/

When he sends you mail, do not open it - mark it “return to sender” and put it back in the box. That is how you keep him from writing you.

This person cannot MAKE you do anything. You must abide by the legal aspect of your custody agreement. Outside of that, he cannot make you do anything.

Please, get some counseling (again, your Priest or Catholic Charities can point you in the right direction).
Our Parish-Priest has let us know that they are not sure how to help me, and their funds are not available to help at the time…

I did tell him not to write to me any more…Hopefully he gets the hint…
 
His failure to pay child support will be on his credit report. If he tries to buy a house there is no way he will get a mortgage loan until the back payments are cleared up so at least that is working for you. I am not sure but I would think that he wouldn’t be able to get a car loan (or even a credit card in this economy) for failure to pay child support.

And as others have said, just because he wants to give up parental rights does not get him out of paying child support if both parties don’t agree to it so you just need to stand up to him and not agree.

Also, I don’t know your financial situation but if you have any help from the gov’t such as food stamps or welfare or anything like that, you have to name the father and they will go after him.

Good luck and I am so sorry you are having to deal with this.
 
Don’t forget your local law school. I am in law school and we have a clinic where students work underneath lawyers and/or lawyers or teachers (who are licensed lawyers) can give adive or help you with stuff for really cheap if not free. OR just talk to the teachers directly. They will know local and state laws better than anyone plus they will have the passion to help you out and the students will love to work so that they can gain experience.

I wish you luck!!
 
His failure to pay child support will be on his credit report. If he tries to buy a house there is no way he will get a mortgage loan until the back payments are cleared up so at least that is working for you. I am not sure but I would think that he wouldn’t be able to get a car loan (or even a credit card in this economy) for failure to pay child support.

And as others have said, just because he wants to give up parental rights does not get him out of paying child support if both parties don’t agree to it so you just need to stand up to him and not agree.

Also, I don’t know your financial situation but if you have any help from the gov’t such as food stamps or welfare or anything like that, you have to name the father and they will go after him.

Good luck and I am so sorry you are having to deal with this.
Hi noclevername, thanks for the help and support…BUT when I mean to say, please note previous posts, about my exhusband getting away with everything, he has…Because other people get to do things for him…In other words, his new wife has credit everything is under her credit, his brother has credit his brother has cosigned and even made him a cosigner…My exhusband has a 2000+ vehicle on 26" rims and everything, I saw his pictures when he used to post them on his spacepage, and I should have saved them…He used to post pictures of his parties and wild nights as well as all the vacations he and his new wife and her kids took…While mine were sitting there wishing they could have a little of that too…It is really depressing…And I mean he gets away with everything…

Well I have child support services all ready and they don’t go after him…Like I said almost 4 years divorced and only 15-17 months of partial child support collected in total…Very disappointing…
 
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