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I myself never researched anti-mormon literature either. I just accepted it as is. And that was just as dangerous too. When I take my RCIA and Catechism classes, you can be sure I will be studying and researching everything! I will even grill my teachers for answers! lol. 🙂
When I was in RCIA, I was very suspicious that there were teachings, beliefs, practices being hidden from me. I asked a lot of questions, and researched everything on my own. I spent hours and hours of my own time, studying, not only to make sure there wasn’t a gotcha in there somewhere, but also to learn of course. I researched at anti-Catholic sites, looking for secret information being revealed, whether it was regarding history, practices, beliefs, etc. I asked a LOT of questions. If anyone had ever said to me that I shouldn’t worry about X, or that any rite had hidden aspects that I had to wait to experience, I would have been gone in a flash!

Jesus’ ministry was public. His Saving act was public. The gift of the Holy Spirit was given, in public. Mormons have a gnostic streak, in their belief that there are private secrets that are only for the spiritual elite.
 
Exactly, I agree. They wouldn’t tell me certain things unless I was endowed.
 
When I was in RCIA, I was very suspicious that there were teachings, beliefs, practices being hidden from me. I asked a lot of questions, and researched everything on my own. I spent hours and hours of my own time, studying, not only to make sure there wasn’t a gotcha in there somewhere, but also to learn of course. I researched at anti-Catholic sites, looking for secret information being revealed, whether it was regarding history, practices, beliefs, etc. I asked a LOT of questions. If anyone had ever said to me that I shouldn’t worry about X, or that any rite had hidden aspects that I had to wait to experience, I would have been gone in a flash!

Jesus’ ministry was public. His Saving act was public. The gift of the Holy Spirit was given, in public. Mormons have a gnostic streak, in their belief that there are private secrets that are only for the spiritual elite.
Yep, I became suspicious too.
Another common response to any questions regarding ‘sacred’ Mormon practices was ‘you’re not spiritually ready to learn of these things yet…’
Like when I asked my dad about polygamy, his response (as well as the church leaders) was 'God took it away as we have to respect the law of the land, people aren’t ready to follow this practice at this time so God will bring back this when our faith can handle such commandments… ’
They practice polygamy in spirit as in, while a man cannot be married to multiple women in this life, if widowed & he gets re-married, he can be ‘sealed’ to the next wife as well. But women can only be 'sealed to one man. If widowed & decides to remarry, then she must either renounce the sealing to her passed husband to be 'sealed to the new husband or have a civil marriage to him for ‘company’…
 
Yep, I became suspicious too.
Another common response to any questions regarding ‘sacred’ Mormon practices was ‘you’re not spiritually ready to learn of these things yet…’
Like when I asked my dad about polygamy, his response (as well as the church leaders) was 'God took it away as we have to respect the law of the land, people aren’t ready to follow this practice at this time so God will bring back this when our faith can handle such commandments… ’
They practice polygamy in spirit as in, while a man cannot be married to multiple women in this life, if widowed & he gets re-married, he can be ‘sealed’ to the next wife as well. But women can only be 'sealed to one man. If widowed & decides to remarry, then she must either renounce the sealing to her passed husband to be 'sealed to the new husband or have a civil marriage to him for ‘company’…
Yes, that just didn’t make sense at all. Why does a man have the right to marry more than one woman whereas we can’t? And God won’t bring back that practice until Jesus comes again if there is really such a practice for the spiritual kingdom on the earth. I just can’t imagine. Crazy.
 
Yes, that just didn’t make sense at all. Why does a man have the right to marry more than one woman whereas we can’t? And God won’t bring back that practice until Jesus comes again if there is really such a practice for the spiritual kingdom on the earth. I just can’t imagine. Crazy.
Emma Smith made the same point, and received a death threat, which is canonized in LDS scriptures (D&C 132).
 
My parents are very devout practicing Mormons, however, neither of my siblings are ‘active’ or as they say have ‘fallen away’ from the church. My parents would rather me & my siblings to be inactive mormons than to join another church, so I haven’t told them or anyone from the “mormon community” of my conversion into the Catholic Faith. They don’t like the fact that I’m married in the catholic church, my children are baptized catholic, I have a rosary in my car & the holy statute of mother mary, last supper portrait in my kitchen etc in my home. They chose to ignore it & brush it off as they think these are my catholic husbands things & not of my own choice. (I’ve never understood why the Mormons don’t use the crucifix).
Being part of the Mormon church has scarred me & for many years I did not make any personal prayers as I felt too scared. Only until I started the maronite baptism classes have I made the personal & humbling decision to pray each day & open my heart to the true God.
Would any of you have any advice on how I should tell my family? Are there any specific prayers or books that may help me?🙂
 
RebeccaJ>> Joseph Smith’s own wife Emma Smith received the death threat?? I will have to read that section. Wow.

debbieh>> The only thing I can tell you to do is simply tell your family the truth. They will find out sooner or later. My family didn’t like the fact that I had joined the ‘mormon’ church and finally it came to me to call the bishop and asked him what to do. I was living with my grandmother at the time so he asked to speak to her. He asked her this question, “Do you want her to be happy?” She couldn’t say nothing cuz she realised he was right.

So, ask your family that question too. “Do you want me to be happy?” and then throw this at them,

11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

And see what they say. And pray also!
 
Luckily i never ended up going into the temple & wearing garments. I personally don’t belive that you have to wear special underwear & pay your way to the ‘highest degrees of heaven’ or the Celestial kingdom as they call it. My parents are still very devout Mormons & even had the missionaries come to my house to ‘visit’. I pretty much told them that I’ve had this shoved down my throat my whole life until I left home & I wasn’t interested in coming back to the Mormon faith. As they could see, in my home I have a crucifix on the wall, a statue of mother mary, last supper portrait in my kitchen etc… They haven’t come back since.
I’ve always been bothered by the concept of the WOW. Drinking coffee us detrimental to our souls??? My parents awlays made it out that if you drink- you are an alcoholic, you smoke- your q bad person, you drink coffe & tea- you live a life of sin… Etc.
Your comments are interesting to me. Wearing the garments happens once a temple recommend holding LDS member goes to the temple for the first and thereafter. It is unfortunate that the doctrine was"shoved down my throat" (your experience) – every person I have ever visited in their home had a choice — this notion of force or anything else I do not understand that all – as I said one has a choice.

Keeping the Word of Wisdom is a choice, if one is loyal to the church or wants to have a temple recommend.
 
RebeccaJ>> Joseph Smith’s own wife Emma Smith received the death threat?? I will have to read that section. Wow.
54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and **will destroy her **if she abide not in my law.

I would be scared to death of the man Joseph Smith if I were in Emma’s shoes.
 
Your comments are interesting to me. Wearing the garments happens once a temple recommend holding LDS member goes to the temple for the first and thereafter. It is unfortunate that the doctrine was"shoved down my throat" (your experience) – every person I have ever visited in their home had a choice — this notion of force or anything else I do not understand that all – as I said one has a choice.

Keeping the Word of Wisdom is a choice, if one is loyal to the church or wants to have a temple recommend.
Im assuming your visits were to lds homes (I may be wrong)? Now ive seen and heard from ex-lds and current lds that if they dont follow along or leave they are shunned by family members and friends. Where is the choice in that? Most mormons dont have a choice in which religion they want to be in. If they leave they are crushed. How sad.
 
54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and **will destroy her **if she abide not in my law.

I would be scared to death of the man Joseph Smith if I were in Emma’s shoes.
Im not even a woman and im scared :eek:
 
My parents are very devout practicing Mormons, however, neither of my siblings are ‘active’ or as they say have ‘fallen away’ from the church. My parents would rather me & my siblings to be inactive mormons than to join another church, so I haven’t told them or anyone from the “mormon community” of my conversion into the Catholic Faith. They don’t like the fact that I’m married in the catholic church, my children are baptized catholic, I have a rosary in my car & the holy statute of mother mary, last supper portrait in my kitchen etc in my home. They chose to ignore it & brush it off as they think these are my catholic husbands things & not of my own choice. (I’ve never understood why the Mormons don’t use the crucifix).
Being part of the Mormon church has scarred me & for many years I did not make any personal prayers as I felt too scared. Only until I started the maronite baptism classes have I made the personal & humbling decision to pray each day & open my heart to the true God.
Would any of you have any advice on how I should tell my family? Are there any specific prayers or books that may help me?🙂
Debbie,

You know…my sense…is this…

You are responding to God’s call in your life. :extrahappy:

I’ve heard on CAF that there are many Mormon’s who seriously question their faith but are reluctant to leave for a variety of reasons including but not limited to shunning from family and friends…:sad_yes:

Yet Christ says to follow him…and leave one’s family if needed (this is very apostolic) 👋

But I’d also say that God could be using you as a witness for the Truth…to evangelize others to the Truth. :bounce:

Not only should you tell them… you should tell them why you are leaving…focusing not only on what is in error about LDS (how could you not) but telling them what is so right about Catholicism. :curtsey:

Bring out the missionary spirit in you Debbie…and do make yourself a fisher of men (& women). You never know who you will touch…and you may plant a seed that will bear fruit sometime in the future. :flowers:

Pork
 
Im assuming your visits were to lds homes (I may be wrong)? Now ive seen and heard from ex-lds and current lds that if they dont follow along or leave they are shunned by family members and friends. Where is the choice in that? Most mormons dont have a choice in which religion they want to be in. If they leave they are crushed. How sad.
It is choice from my experience. I know nothing about being shunned. LDS have a choice to be LDS or join any other church of their church.
 
It is choice from my experience. I know nothing about being shunned. LDS have a choice to be LDS or join any other church of their church.
I say stigmatizing and demonizing people is just as bad as shunning.

What your church has to say about those of us who made the choice to leave:

It was said here this morning that no person ever apostatized, without actual transgression. Omission of duty leads to commission (DBY, 82).

Let a man or woman who has received much of the power of God, visions and revelations, turn away from the holy commandments of the Lord, and it seems that their senses are taken from them, their understanding and judgment in righteousness are taken away, they go into darkness, and become like a blind person who gropes by the wall.

People do, however, leave this Church, but they leave it because they get into darkness.

When they lose the spirit of this work, they lose the knowledge of the things of God in time and in eternity; all is lost to them.

What have the Latter-day Saints got to apostatize from? Everything that there is good, pure, holy, God-like, exalting, ennobling, extending the ideas, the capacities of the intelligent beings that our Heavenly Father has brought forth upon this earth. **What will they receive in exchange? **I can comprehend it in a very few words. These would be the words that I should use: death, hell and the grave. That is what they will get in exchange. We may go into the particulars of that which they experience. **They experience darkness, ignorance, doubt, pain, sorrow, grief, mourning, unhappiness; no person to condole [lament] with in the hour of trouble, no arm to lean upon in the day of calamity, no eye to pity when they are forlorn and cast down; and I comprehend it by saying death, hell and the grave. **This is what they will get in exchange for their apostasy from the Gospel of the Son of God.

You have known men who, while in the Church, were active, quick and full of intelligence; but after they have left the Church, they have become contracted in their understandings, they have become darkened in their minds and everything has become a mystery to them, and in regard to the things of God, they have become like the rest of the world, who think, hope and pray that such and such things may be so, but they do not know the least about it. This is precisely the position of those who leave this Church; they go into the dark, they are not able to judge, conceive or comprehend things as they are. They are like the drunken man—he thinks that everybody is the worse for liquor but himself, and he is the only sober man in the neighborhood. The apostates think that everybody is wrong but themselves.

Those who leave the Church are like a feather blown to and fro in the air. They know not whither they are going; they do not understand anything about their own existence; their faith, judgment and the operation of their minds are as unstable as the movements of the feather floating in the air. We have not anything to cling to, only faith in the Gospel.

Why do people apostatize? You know we are on the “Old Ship Zion.” We are in the midst of the ocean. A storm comes on, and, as sailors say, she labors very hard. “I am not going to stay here,” says one; “I don’t believe this is the ‘Ship Zion.’ ” “But we are in the midst of the ocean.” “I don’t care, I am not going to stay here.” Off goes the coat, and he jumps overboard. Will he not be drowned? Yes. So with those who leave this Church. It is the “Old Ship Zion,” let us stay in it.

(All taken from one lesson)
 
Debbie,

You know…my sense…is this…

You are responding to God’s call in your life. :extrahappy:

I’ve heard on CAF that there are many Mormon’s who seriously question their faith but are reluctant to leave for a variety of reasons including but not limited to shunning from family and friends…:sad_yes:

Yet Christ says to follow him…and leave one’s family if needed (this is very apostolic) 👋

But I’d also say that God could be using you as a witness for the Truth…to evangelize others to the Truth. :bounce:

Not only should you tell them… you should tell them why you are leaving…focusing not only on what is in error about LDS (how could you not) but telling them what is so right about Catholicism. :curtsey:

Bring out the missionary spirit in you Debbie…and do make yourself a fisher of men (& women). You never know who you will touch…and you may plant a seed that will bear fruit sometime in the future. :flowers:

Pork
I would agree with telling your family. If your faith is elsewhere, tell them so they know that. At least then they will know why you are not active in the LDS church anymore.
 
I was born in the covenant and raised in the Mormon church. As long as I can remember, I always believed in the equality of men and women before God. I also struggled with the doctrine of polygamy. During my senior year of high school, I doubted the existence of God. I hated going to church and seminary but went because my parents forced me. My mother also pushed me big time to go to BYU. I did have a marvelous spiritual experience where the Holy Spirit touched me and I knew that God exists and is mindful of me. I must note that the Holy Spirit did not tell me that the Mormon church was God’s church. BYU gave me a full tuition scholarship so off to BYU I went.

Experiencing Utah Mormon culture was a shock to me. I had my handful of friends and otherwise kept to myself. I could not wait to get out of Provo and start my career. Studied accounting and did well. I found the faculty very good and particularly welcoming of women. There were a handful of students who resented the women like me in the program because we should be studying something that would help us be good mothers. There was even a man who had the guts to ask me what was wrong with me because I was a 22 year old single woman pursuing a professional degree and not going on a mission. I was speechless.

I started my career in Texas and stayed in the Mormon church and got involved in the Young Single Adult scene. Even though I found lots of positive male attention outside of church, I couldn’t get a date from a man at church to save my life. I was definitely an old maid in mormondom. I tried so hard to be a good worthy woman to attract a worthy Mormon man. I was also an ordinance worker in the temple for a couple of years. It didn’t matter with the BIC men. I finally met my husband through a mutual friend at church. He was a convert from Eastern Orthodoxy and didn’t have the same hang ups that the BIC boys did. We married and have two beautiful babies.

In January, I decided that I wanted to get an understanding of polygamy. I wanted to get to the point where it didn’t bother me anymore. I had divorced friends who were still sealed to their ex husbands but couldn’t get a cancellation even when their exes were sealed to wife number two in the temple. I thought the Mormon church didn’t seal men to more than one living woman anymore. Hmmmmm.

I read Rough Stone Rolling and found the polygamy page at Mormonthink.com. I learned about the polyandry of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. I read the stories of Helen Mar Kimball and Zina Jacobs. I read about the castration of young men so old church leaders could have their sweethearts. I read about the wives who were basically single mothers and not supported by their husbands. I was heartbroken for them. I knew that JS was not a prophet of God because God would never command a man to steal another man’s wife. A huge weight had been lifted. All the years of struggling ended. I told my husband and he agreed with me that it was all a fraud. We then read more and found the truth about everything else - Adam/God, blood atonement, Book of Abraham, the lavish lifestyles of the Big 15, City Creek Mall. We knew we couldn’t raise our children in the Mormon church.

I always had great respect for the Catholic Church and figured that if Mormonism is not correct, than Catholicism would be. I joined RCIA in February. The more I learn, the happier I am that I am becoming Catholic. It all makes sense to me. There was no apostacy. The early church fathers fought hard against heresy. The original church of Christ is here and it is really filling the whole earth, and I will be a part of it soon.

It has been a struggle with my Mormon parents. We reached a low point, but we are starting to improve the relationship. I hope and pray that my family finds their way out of the Mormon church too. I have to be respectful or they may never listen to me.

I am so happy that my journey has finally led me home to God.
 
I was born in the covenant and raised in the Mormon church. As long as I can remember, I always believed in the equality of men and women before God. I also struggled with the doctrine of polygamy. During my senior year of high school, I doubted the existence of God. I hated going to church and seminary but went because my parents forced me. My mother also pushed me big time to go to BYU. I did have a marvelous spiritual experience where the Holy Spirit touched me and I knew that God exists and is mindful of me. I must note that the Holy Spirit did not tell me that the Mormon church was God’s church. BYU gave me a full tuition scholarship so off to BYU I went.

Experiencing Utah Mormon culture was a shock to me. I had my handful of friends and otherwise kept to myself. I could not wait to get out of Provo and start my career. Studied accounting and did well. I found the faculty very good and particularly welcoming of women. There were a handful of students who resented the women like me in the program because we should be studying something that would help us be good mothers. There was even a man who had the guts to ask me what was wrong with me because I was a 22 year old single woman pursuing a professional degree and not going on a mission. I was speechless.

I started my career in Texas and stayed in the Mormon church and got involved in the Young Single Adult scene. Even though I found lots of positive male attention outside of church, I couldn’t get a date from a man at church to save my life. I was definitely an old maid in mormondom. I tried so hard to be a good worthy woman to attract a worthy Mormon man. I was also an ordinance worker in the temple for a couple of years. It didn’t matter with the BIC men. I finally met my husband through a mutual friend at church. He was a convert from Eastern Orthodoxy and didn’t have the same hang ups that the BIC boys did. We married and have two beautiful babies.

In January, I decided that I wanted to get an understanding of polygamy. I wanted to get to the point where it didn’t bother me anymore. I had divorced friends who were still sealed to their ex husbands but couldn’t get a cancellation even when their exes were sealed to wife number two in the temple. I thought the Mormon church didn’t seal men to more than one living woman anymore. Hmmmmm.

I read Rough Stone Rolling and found the polygamy page at Mormonthink.com. I learned about the polyandry of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. I read the stories of Helen Mar Kimball and Zina Jacobs. I read about the castration of young men so old church leaders could have their sweethearts. I read about the wives who were basically single mothers and not supported by their husbands. I was heartbroken for them. I knew that JS was not a prophet of God because God would never command a man to steal another man’s wife. A huge weight had been lifted. All the years of struggling ended. I told my husband and he agreed with me that it was all a fraud. We then read more and found the truth about everything else - Adam/God, blood atonement, Book of Abraham, the lavish lifestyles of the Big 15, City Creek Mall. We knew we couldn’t raise our children in the Mormon church.

I always had great respect for the Catholic Church and figured that if Mormonism is not correct, than Catholicism would be. I joined RCIA in February. The more I learn, the happier I am that I am becoming Catholic. It all makes sense to me. There was no apostacy. The early church fathers fought hard against heresy. The original church of Christ is here and it is really filling the whole earth, and I will be a part of it soon.

It has been a struggle with my Mormon parents. We reached a low point, but we are starting to improve the relationship. I hope and pray that my family finds their way out of the Mormon church too. I have to be respectful or they may never listen to me.

I am so happy that my journey has finally led me home to God.
Very inspiring.
 
I finally met my husband through a mutual friend at church. He was a convert from Eastern Orthodoxy and didn’t have the same hang ups that the BIC boys did. We married and have two beautiful babies.
As someone currently considering conversion to Orthodoxy I am curious as to whether your husband has considered returning to his former faith.
 
I was born in the covenant and raised in the Mormon church. As long as I can remember, I always believed in the equality of men and women before God. I also struggled with the doctrine of polygamy. During my senior year of high school, I doubted the existence of God. I hated going to church and seminary but went because my parents forced me. My mother also pushed me big time to go to BYU. I did have a marvelous spiritual experience where the Holy Spirit touched me and I knew that God exists and is mindful of me. I must note that the Holy Spirit did not tell me that the Mormon church was God’s church. BYU gave me a full tuition scholarship so off to BYU I went.

Experiencing Utah Mormon culture was a shock to me. I had my handful of friends and otherwise kept to myself. I could not wait to get out of Provo and start my career. Studied accounting and did well. I found the faculty very good and particularly welcoming of women. There were a handful of students who resented the women like me in the program because we should be studying something that would help us be good mothers. There was even a man who had the guts to ask me what was wrong with me because I was a 22 year old single woman pursuing a professional degree and not going on a mission. I was speechless.

I started my career in Texas and stayed in the Mormon church and got involved in the Young Single Adult scene. Even though I found lots of positive male attention outside of church, I couldn’t get a date from a man at church to save my life. I was definitely an old maid in mormondom. I tried so hard to be a good worthy woman to attract a worthy Mormon man. I was also an ordinance worker in the temple for a couple of years. It didn’t matter with the BIC men. I finally met my husband through a mutual friend at church. He was a convert from Eastern Orthodoxy and didn’t have the same hang ups that the BIC boys did. We married and have two beautiful babies.

In January, I decided that I wanted to get an understanding of polygamy. I wanted to get to the point where it didn’t bother me anymore. I had divorced friends who were still sealed to their ex husbands but couldn’t get a cancellation even when their exes were sealed to wife number two in the temple. I thought the Mormon church didn’t seal men to more than one living woman anymore. Hmmmmm.

I read Rough Stone Rolling and found the polygamy page at Mormonthink.com. I learned about the polyandry of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. I read the stories of Helen Mar Kimball and Zina Jacobs. I read about the castration of young men so old church leaders could have their sweethearts. I read about the wives who were basically single mothers and not supported by their husbands. I was heartbroken for them. I knew that JS was not a prophet of God because God would never command a man to steal another man’s wife. A huge weight had been lifted. All the years of struggling ended. I told my husband and he agreed with me that it was all a fraud. We then read more and found the truth about everything else - Adam/God, blood atonement, Book of Abraham, the lavish lifestyles of the Big 15, City Creek Mall. We knew we couldn’t raise our children in the Mormon church.

I always had great respect for the Catholic Church and figured that if Mormonism is not correct, than Catholicism would be. I joined RCIA in February. The more I learn, the happier I am that I am becoming Catholic. It all makes sense to me. There was no apostacy. The early church fathers fought hard against heresy. The original church of Christ is here and it is really filling the whole earth, and I will be a part of it soon.

It has been a struggle with my Mormon parents. We reached a low point, but we are starting to improve the relationship. I hope and pray that my family finds their way out of the Mormon church too. I have to be respectful or they may never listen to me.

I am so happy that my journey has finally led me home to God.
Thank you for sharing your story, and my you find peace in the Catholic Church.
 
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