Excessive handling of the Eucharist

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This almost seems like a moot issue in an era of near universal practice of communion in the hand in so many parishes.

Communion in the hand is far and away the most pervasive and abuse-filled form of excessive handling of the Eucharist.
 
There is no reason that the priest could not consecrate the Hosts in separate ciboria. It is not necessary for them all to be in the same ciborium for the Consecration. When the Offering is being presented, the people could bring up the Hosts already divided into the number of ciboria needed.

The Sacristan could pour the hosts directly from the original packaging into the right number of ciboria, in the privacy of the Sacristy, and then bring them out to where the offerings are being brought up from, already set to go.
That part is easy enough. But what about after communion? When the several ciboria come back to the altar only partially full, they consecrated hosts need to be moved some how so they can be properly reserved. In my parish the priests ‘pour’ them into one main ciborium for reservation. Sometimes they are even “shaken down” to ensure thast the last few can fit in. It is done by the priests and I know they are trying to be reverant, but sometimes its just not a graceful process to watch. In that case, it is best to close your eyes and pray for your parish–the priests and all your fellow parishioners.
 
That part is easy enough. But what about after communion? When the several ciboria come back to the altar only partially full, they consecrated hosts need to be moved some how so they can be properly reserved. In my parish the priests ‘pour’ them into one main ciborium for reservation. Sometimes they are even “shaken down” to ensure thast the last few can fit in. It is done by the priests and I know they are trying to be reverant, but sometimes its just not a graceful process to watch. In that case, it is best to close your eyes and pray for your parish–the priests and all your fellow parishioners.
Good point - hmmm. 🤷
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I don’t know much about transubstantiation so forgive me if I say something wrong. In the Catholic teaching, is the Eucharist always Christ, or is it bread that becomes Christ?

If the bread becomes- suggesting that it was something different beforehand- the body and the blood of Christ; then, before that happens isn’t it just bread? Regular plain old get-it-at-store bread? (Idiom for effect. I know that you cannot go down to the corner store and buy communion wafers, and I mean no disrespect to the actual Eucharist.) In which case, who cares how it’s handled, it’s not Christ yet. Either way, I can understand how it would be upsetting for them to be doing that in the middle of Mass… That’s a bit much.
The Catholic Mass is a sacred ritual. All movements should show the sacredness of the ritual. Just the fact that the unconsecrated wafer will become the Body and Blood of Christ after the Consecration at Mass is enough to still be reverent even though it is not yet consecrated because they are within the context of the ritual.
 
That part is easy enough. But what about after communion? When the several ciboria come back to the altar only partially full, they consecrated hosts need to be moved some how so they can be properly reserved. In my parish the priests ‘pour’ them into one main ciborium for reservation. Sometimes they are even “shaken down” to ensure thast the last few can fit in. It is done by the priests and I know they are trying to be reverant, but sometimes its just not a graceful process to watch. In that case, it is best to close your eyes and pray for your parish–the priests and all your fellow parishioners.
There are a couple of important points in these posts. First, there is a reason why the hosts are consecrated in one ciborium, unless you actually need thousands of hosts. The Church prefers that they be in one ciborium as a visual sign of the one body. That’s where that custom comes from and it’s very old. It’s not even in canon law any longer, to the best of my knowledge, because it’s an established custom for a long time.

The other point about the pouring and shaking. First it’s not a sinful act so you need not worry. It’s perfectly practical actually. The idea is not only to get all of the hosts to fit into the one ciborium, but also to shake off as much as you can of the particles that are at the bottom of the ciborium that you’re emptying out. And there is the sanitary reason, to avoid touching the hosts as much as possible. It’s just that in the past, when the mass was ad orientem, we didn’t see what was going on at the atlar, because the priest or deacon were blocking our view. Now we can see it.

It’s not a lack of reverence, it’s just a practical and sanitary reason that the ciborium is shaken. The use of the one ciborium has always been recommended except when you know that you’re going to need more than one, such as at a very large gathering.

But all of it is done with a reason. It’s just not the most graceful moment of the mass. I have to admit. But you don’t want to scoop out the hosts either, because that would be one more article to purify. I’m not even sure if you’re allowed to use a spoon in the Latin Rite. I have never seen it done. I know that they do it in the Eastern Churches, but that’s for communion.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Thank you brother. I do know my priests are being reverant and following tradition and regulations. I just find it very distracting so I usually keep my eyes shut. 🙂
There are a couple of important points in these posts. First, there is a reason why the hosts are consecrated in one ciborium, unless you actually need thousands of hosts. The Church prefers that they be in one ciborium as a visual sign of the one body. That’s where that custom comes from and it’s very old. It’s not even in canon law any longer, to the best of my knowledge, because it’s an established custom for a long time.

The other point about the pouring and shaking. First it’s not a sinful act so you need not worry. It’s perfectly practical actually. The idea is not only to get all of the hosts to fit into the one ciborium, but also to shake off as much as you can of the particles that are at the bottom of the ciborium that you’re emptying out. And there is the sanitary reason, to avoid touching the hosts as much as possible. It’s just that in the past, when the mass was ad orientem, we didn’t see what was going on at the atlar, because the priest or deacon were blocking our view. Now we can see it.

It’s not a lack of reverence, it’s just a practical and sanitary reason that the ciborium is shaken. The use of the one ciborium has always been recommended except when you know that you’re going to need more than one, such as at a very large gathering.

But all of it is done with a reason. It’s just not the most graceful moment of the mass. I have to admit. But you don’t want to scoop out the hosts either, because that would be one more article to purify. I’m not even sure if you’re allowed to use a spoon in the Latin Rite. I have never seen it done. I know that they do it in the Eastern Churches, but that’s for communion.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Thank you brother. I do know my priests are being reverant and following tradition and regulations. I just find it very distracting so I usually keep my eyes shut. 🙂
I had never even thought about it until I read your post, because I don’t usually look up toward the sanctuary after communion. But when I read your post I had to stop and think about it and I had to chuckle. I thought to myself, “She’s right. It doesn’t look very graceful, does it?” But then I thought to myself, what other way is there and I cam up blank.

Then I was trying to think how did they do it before? I remembered that it was the same thing, but the priest was facing away from us, so we didn’t see it. That’s when the light went off in my head.

When you live in a religious house you don’t get to see that too much. Usually the priest only consecrates as many hosts as there are religious. There is nothing left over to put away. We only have one host in the tabernacle. It’s a large one that we keep for adoration. It can be used in an emergency, if someone is sick. You can just break it. But that rarely happens.

Now I live in a community where we have no ordained brother. We attend mass at the local parish. But there I’m just so focussed on my prayers after communion that by the time I look up everything is over and we’re getting up for the final prayer. I had to think about what you said. That’s when I chuckled, not at you, but at the mental image that I got.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
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