Excommunication result of Brazil Girl's abortion

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I didn’t mean the medics in Brazil, I meant medics who know about maternal mortality in that age group - the statistics have been misquoted for one, since comparing that age group with all mothers is not sound for starters.
Doc,

I was talking about the actual physicians who actually examined this girl. I’m not talking statistics, I’m talking the hard data based upon the actual examination of this girl.

The Doctors who performed this examination said, she was not in trouble.
 
Doc,

I was talking about the actual physicians who actually examined this girl. I’m not talking statistics, I’m talking the hard data based upon the actual examination of this girl.

The Doctors who performed this examination said, she was not in trouble.
I haven’t seen persuasive evidence that this girl was not at risk. I have seen plenty of press report where medical opinion was that she was at risk, which given her age is the more reasonable position.
 
I haven’t seen persuasive evidence that this girl was not at risk. I have seen plenty of press report where medical opinion was that she was at risk, which given her age is the more reasonable position.
Again we’re going back to that obstiant position of flying to brazil to personally interview the Doctors? Rather than just believe what they said as published online? And what happens when you do this, and they say “she wasn’t at risk”? You tell them that they’re wrong, because you can’t personally fathom it otherwise (having never even seen this girl personally).
 
Again we’re going back to that obstiant position of flying to brazil to personally interview the Doctors? Rather than just believe what they said as published online? And what happens when you do this, and they say “she wasn’t at risk”? You tell them that they’re wrong, because you can’t personally fathom it otherwise (having never even seen this girl personally).
People come out with some really stupid things on this forum - when I have said I’m going to Brazil?
I don’t trust internet sources that contradict the known data about maternal mortality in girls of this age. The internet is full of rubbish.
 
People come out with some really stupid things on this forum - when I have said I’m going to Brazil?
I don’t trust internet sources that contradict the known data about maternal mortality in girls of this age. The internet is full of rubbish.
And this exactly what I’m talking about, a position of obstiance more than likely because the facts at hand disagree wtih your personal ideology.
 
And this exactly what I’m talking about, a position of obstiance more than likely because the facts at hand disagree wtih your personal ideology.
OK, you don’t understand English. Never mind.
Hardline Catholics on this forum claiming to deal in facts? ROTFL!:rotfl:
 
I don’t think the church ever said that babies had to be carried full term - almost all planned C sections are done slightly early to avoid labor. This young mother was already at 16 weeks, most children born at 25 weeks are viable (if good prenatal care is available - which Brazil has). Only our creator knows if this young lady could have safely carried them 2 additional months.

That said the Church allows allows emergency C sections at any point that the life of the mother is in danger - even if they are at a point the viability of the baby is non-existent. Still there is a difference in treating the fetus with the dignity of a human being, or a clump of tissue to be ripped apart, vacuumed out, and thrown in the waste bin.

The whole big enough to fly the Enterprise through is actually much larger than implied - where many abortion laws mention the health, not life of the mother. That includes mental heath. Liberal interpretation of that is stretched to include everything for being the blunt of weigh gain jokes - they hurt the mothers self image you know. I think roughly 99 percent of woman who want abortions get judicial approval for health reasons - with a stamp by the receptionist of a liberal judges who is in the abortion providers pocket.
 
The excommunicated parties only need to show true repentance in order to be readmitted to the communion of the faithful.
 
People come out with some really stupid things on this forum - when I have said I’m going to Brazil?
I don’t trust internet sources that contradict the known data about maternal mortality in girls of this age. The internet is full of rubbish.
The internet also has a lot of information provided by government sources, *such as the ones I provided. *

Maybe you could provide some of that known data about maternal mortality in girls of this age? it would of course be especially good if it applied to Brazil, where they not only have a very good medical system but are particularly good at handling cases of very young mothers.

I am sure that because of your position you are able to access articles that we are not able to access, so if you could quote the relevant details, that would be helpful.
 

Still there is a difference in treating the fetus with the dignity of a human being, or a clump of tissue to be ripped apart, vacuumed out, and thrown in the waste bin.
How about aborted but still alive and then drowned by the doctor?
 
I haven’t seen persuasive evidence that this girl was not at risk. I have seen plenty of press report where medical opinion was that she was at risk, which given her age is the more reasonable position.
Hahahahah you are always asking for it, but never accepting it. So I say show me every piece of paper to refute the statement. Show me the doctors examination that says she was in trouble. I want to see you do a little leg work… I want to include you instead of exclude you…
 
Oh… I forgot to mention. It can not be from a source on the internet because we both know that only garbage is out here and it cannot be trusted. So will that be an American Airlines flight or does Jet Blue go to Brazil?
 
OK, you don’t understand English. Never mind.
Hardline Catholics on this forum claiming to deal in facts? ROTFL!:rotfl:
Like statements from the pro-abortion publication California Medicine that said it’s a fact that human life begins at conception.
 
Hahahahah you are always asking for it, but never accepting it. So I say show me every piece of paper to refute the statement. Show me the doctors examination that says she was in trouble. I want to see you do a little leg work… I want to include you instead of exclude you…
Fatima Maia, director of the public university hospital where the abortion was performed, said the pregnancy, which was in its 15th week, posed a serious risk to the girl, who weighs 80 pounds.
 
Fatima Maia, director of the public university hospital where the abortion was performed, said the pregnancy, which was in its 15th week, posed a serious risk to the girl, who weighs 80 pounds.
Show me please. No link… to many fakes out here… Scanned and signed will be acceptable proof… 🙂
 
The internet also has a lot of information provided by government sources, *such as the ones I provided. *

Maybe you could provide some of that known data about maternal mortality in girls of this age? it would of course be especially good if it applied to Brazil, where they not only have a very good medical system but are particularly good at handling cases of very young mothers.

I am sure that because of your position you are able to access articles that we are not able to access, so if you could quote the relevant details, that would be helpful.
It’s very difficult to find data on pregnancies in 9 year olds, because guess what? It doesn’t happen very often. You can’t apply data from 10-14 year olds to 9 year olds or even 10 year olds - clearly there is a big difference between the body of a 10 year old and a 14 year old. We know that even for 14 year olds there is typically a 4-5 times increase in maternal mortality compared to 20 year olds (which must be a more appropriate age for comparison than all mothers).
 
Anyone who makes a serious effort to look will find numerous sources saying that the pregnancy poses a risk to this young girl, and none that say that it didn’t. Imminent danger is a weasel word in this context.
 
It’s very difficult to find data on pregnancies in 9 year olds, because guess what? It doesn’t happen very often. You can’t apply data from 10-14 year olds to 9 year olds or even 10 year olds - clearly there is a big difference between the body of a 10 year old and a 14 year old. We know that even for 14 year olds there is typically a 4-5 times increase in maternal mortality compared to 20 year olds (which must be a more appropriate age for comparison than all mothers).
Really…?? Please do a little reading on the couplings of African Pygmies. I do believe that they marry at a very young age and are pretty tiny. I wonder … for those Christians that say it is ok for a 9 -10 year old normal sized girl to have an abortion if they would say it is ok for a Pygmy adult that had sex with a normal sized human to also have one? After all if, IF the only reason is protecting the life of the mother then that abortion is ok too. Matter of fact as long as we are talking about health of the Mother since size does not really matter as indicated by a Pygmy what about the mental health concerns of a smaller mother? What about the mental health of a large women that should matter too. Using the she was too small argument basically defines that that life of the baby is less important then the life of the mother, once you pop that cork the genie is out and you have a hard time defending any life… so according to this logic you can justifiably kill them all and feel good about yourself.
 
I’ve seen it all now. Was this girl an African pygmy (a rather offensive outdated term I might add)? NO.
What a load of tosh!

It’s just sooo “Pro-Life” to let the 9 year old girl die isn’t it?:rolleyes:
 
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