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How does one become excommunicated? Who excommunicates them? A priest? Bishop?

Also, if a person is excommunicated, would they be able to be the best man or maid of honor at a Catholic wedding? Or be in the wedding party at all?

Thanks in advance!
 
How does one become excommunicated? Who excommunicates them? A priest? Bishop?
It depends upon the situation. Some offenses incur automatic excommunication while others would be imposed by the bishop or the Holy See.
Also, if a person is excommunicated, would they be able to be the best man or maid of honor at a Catholic wedding? Or be in the wedding party at all?
No.
 
Also, if a person is excommunicated, would they be able to be the best man or maid of honor at a Catholic wedding? Or be in the wedding party at all?
I see 1Ke replied “no” but I think it is “yes”. The best man is nothing more than a witness (if I recall correctly) and does not have any part in the liturgy itself. Would it not be the same as having a muslim or jewish best man? What did I miss?
 
I see 1Ke replied “no” but I think it is “yes”. The best man is nothing more than a witness (if I recall correctly) and does not have any part in the liturgy itself. Would it not be the same as having a muslim or jewish best man? What did I miss?
I think that if a couple were to have an excommunicated witness probably they would put themselves in a state of grave sin by bringing scandal. The witness in a marriage is just a secular rule, because form a religious point of view the priest is the witness to the marriage. The only canonical issue with an excommunicated person being a secular witness would be because of the possibility of scandal.
 
I see 1Ke replied “no” but I think it is “yes”. The best man is nothing more than a witness (if I recall correctly) and does not have any part in the liturgy itself. Would it not be the same as having a muslim or jewish best man? What did I miss?
The Rite of Marriage is a liturgy of the Church and a person under excommunication may not participate in the liturgy.
 
The Rite of Marriage is a liturgy of the Church and a person under excommunication may not participate in the liturgy.
The problem is that the witness is a secular norm and it is not really part of the liturgy. That it is why they usually sign the document at the end after the Mass and they do not have a real role in the ceremony.

Excommunicated people still have an obligation to attend Mass; however, they are not limited only by the exclusion defined in the Code of Canon Law, they are also limited in their actions by the possibility of creating scandal.
 
The Rite of Marriage is a liturgy of the Church and a person under excommunication may not participate in the liturgy.
You know what I am going to ask, right? 😃 Source please? I just looked through the canons on marriage and could not find anything about a witness needing to be Catholic, excommunicated or not.
 
I think that if a couple were to have an excommunicated witness probably they would put themselves in a state of grave sin by bringing scandal.
Good point, but there would be nothing canonically preventing this, would there? How would the Priest even know? I have never known of one who asked anything about the best man/maid of honor in terms of what religion they were other than to ask that Catholics do the readings.
 
You know what I am going to ask, right? 😃 Source please? I just looked through the canons on marriage and could not find anything about a witness needing to be Catholic, excommunicated or not.
I think that your understanding is a little bit skewed. An article of the Code of Canon Law does not work by itself in a vacuum.
 
Good point, but there would be nothing canonically preventing this, would there? How would the Priest even know? I have never known of one who asked anything about the best man/maid of honor in terms of what religion they were other than to ask that Catholics do the readings.
The bottom line is that any person that knows can become culpable and God knows for sure and I would not mess with him. The Church has safeguards in place but it also relies on the good faith of the people, anyone that acts in a manner contrary to that is accountable to God.
 
The problem is that the witness is a secular norm and it is not really part of the liturgy.
That isn’t really accurate. The Church’s one code of canon law instructs that valid form requires a priest and two wtinesses.

I would say being part of the processional in the Entrance Rite along with standing witness during the vows does constitute participating in the liturgy.
 
You know what I am going to ask, right? 😃 Source please? I just looked through the canons on marriage and could not find anything about a witness needing to be Catholic, excommunicated or not.
It is not the canons on marriage that are relevant. It is the canons on canonical censures and penalties. An excommunicated person cannot participate in any cermonies of the Church-- sacraments or otherwise.
 
How does one become excommunicated? Who excommunicates them? A priest? Bishop?

Also, if a person is excommunicated, would they be able to be the best man or maid of honor at a Catholic wedding? Or be in the wedding party at all?

Thanks in advance!
Excommunication:

Ferendae sententiae (excommunication after formal proceedings):


Canon 1378 The pretended celebration of the Eucharist or of sacramental Confession.
Canon 1388 Violation of the Seal of Confession by an interpreter.

Latae sententiae (automatic excommunication):

Canon 1364 Apostasy, heresy, or schism
Canon 1367 Violation of the Sacred Species
Canon 1370 Laying violent hands on the Pope
Canon 1378 Absolution of an accomplice
Canon 1382 Episcopal consecration without authorisation from the Holy See
Canon 1388 Violation of the Seal of Confession by a Confessor
Canon 1398 Procuring an abortion
 
That isn’t really accurate. The Church’s one code of canon law instructs that valid form requires a priest and two wtinesses.

I would say being part of the processional in the Entrance Rite along with standing witness during the vows does constitute participating in the liturgy.
Probably you are right about this, I haven’t looked at the CCL to see the instructions for a licit form of the marriage. However, excommunicated people have an obligation to participate to the liturgy (and that is active participation) but they have limitations on how they participate. I am not going to dig into the CCL to see the details, I have enough evidence that an excommunicated person should just sit in the pew and do nothing more than that.
 
Thanks for the replies!
Canon 1378 The pretended celebration of the Eucharist or of sacramental Confession
What is “pretended celebration”?
Excommunicated people still have an obligation to attend Mass
Really? I always thought someone who was excommunicated wouldn’t be allowed to step foot in a church. Learn something new everyday… :o

If I had a friend who was married in the Catholic Church, then got divorced and didn’t get an annulment before remarrying(outside of the Church), would that be grounds for excommunication?
 
What is “pretended celebration”?
You, a person who is not a priest, sitting in a confessional hearing confessions of unsuspecting penitents is an example.
If I had a friend who was married in the Catholic Church, then got divorced and didn’t get an annulment before remarrying(outside of the Church), would that be grounds for excommunication?
Not under the current code of canon law.

However, a person who is in an invalid attempt at marriage such as you describe would not be able to receive communion.
 
You, a person who is not a priest, sitting in a confessional hearing confessions of unsuspecting penitents is an example.

Not under the current code of canon law.

However, a person who is in an invalid attempt at marriage such as you describe would not be able to receive communion.
Okay, thanks!
 
Is it recommended for an excommunicated person to not attend religious festivals such as the Flores de Mayo, receive commendations from organizations with true Catholic sponsorship, and visit pilgrimage sites until he has made valid reparations with the Church through Reconciliation?

In my country, excommunication is a big deal, and I just want to clarify further about its effects on my social status.
 
Is it recommended for an excommunicated person to not attend religious festivals such as the Flores de Mayo, receive commendations from organizations with true Catholic sponsorship, and visit pilgrimage sites until he has made valid reparations with the Church through Reconciliation?

In my country, excommunication is a big deal, and I just want to clarify further about its effects on my social status.
If a person is excommunicated, I don’t think they can receive any of the Sacraments. That includes Reconciliation. Although I could be wrong.

Can someone who is excommunicated ever become un-excommunicated?
 
If a person is excommunicated, I don’t think they can receive any of the Sacraments. That includes Reconciliation. Although I could be wrong.
Depending upon the offense, the person can in fact start with Reconciliation. Many priests have been given faculties to lift excommunication for certain offenses (for example abortion) from their bishop. So the penitent can be reconciled with the Church and excommunication lifted at the same time.

For other offenses, especially those imposed by a juridic process (for example, specific people under excommunication for actions, writings, etc) that would need to start with an apointment with their bishop, or in some cases contact with the Holy See.
Can someone who is excommunicated ever become un-excommunicated?
Of course. That is the whole purpose of excommunication-- to communicate the gravity of the offense and encourage repentance and conversion in the excommunicated party.
 
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