Exegesis on Romans 9

[Kaily]

Can someone point to a good Catholic exegesis on Romans 9, Calvinists always use this chapter to prove their theology and I would like a good Catholic exegesis on this.

Thanks,
Kaily

 

[06convert]

I don’t have one, but I have to chuckle. Silly people like these Calvinists act like they are so enlightened, that they know some truth about the word of God, that their interpretation is correct.

But they completely ignore the basic undeniable truth of certain things.

The Epistle to the Romans was written by Saint Paul. Who? Oh that’s right the Jewish guy that was one of the 12 apostles. Ya know? The apostles, the ones that went on to form what is now the Catholic Church.

So read the Epistle to the Romans in the context of the Catholic Christian man that wrote it.

 

[reccanboy]

Kaily, one can be Catholic and agree with the Calvinist interpretation of Romans 9. In fact, Jimmy Akin has an article regarding this: Tip-toe through TULIP

But, if you desire an interpretation that attempts to reconcile some issues, then check out John Chrysostom’s commentary on Romans 9, or Origen’s commentary on Romans 9.

I, however, agree with the Calvinistic and Augustinian interpretation of Romans 9.

 

[MDK]

Kaily, one can be Catholic and agree with the Calvinist interpretation of Romans 9. In fact, Jimmy Akin has an article regarding this: Tip-toe through TULIP

But, if you desire an interpretation that attempts to reconcile some issues, then check out John Chrysostom’s commentary on Romans 9, or Origen’s commentary on Romans 9.

I, however, agree with the Calvinistic and Augustinian interpretation of Romans 9.

Calvinists didn’t exist until the 1500’s, so how is it that Catholics would agree with them??? Sounds like the other way around, doesn’t it? In as much as they agree with and adopt the Catholic teaching, they have truth. When they controvert or deny the Catholic truths, they are wrong. For instance, didn’t Catholic men St. Augustine, John Chrysostom, and Origen live sometime before non-Catholic John Calvin… a little bit, like 1100 years or more? Since these men came before Calvin, he had their work as well as other Catholic teachings available to rely on, did he not?

The mere denial of teaching authority of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church is wrong. Controverting the Church’s teachings puts one outside what Christ established. To be a theologian and follow what Christ established, the correct method is to study the sources of revelation, but always give the final word to the Church. One who does not follow that method is not a qualified theologian. Vatican II’s document Dei Verbum taught “The task of authoritatively interpreting the word of God, whether written or handed on [Scripture or Tradition], has been entrusted exclusively to the living Magisterium of the Church, whose authority is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ.” Calvin never had any true authority handed down from Christ, and neither was he truly qualified as a theologian. In as much as he has taught things in opposition to the Catholic Church, he has misled many people.