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I saw the movie and I also thought that it was similar to the Exorsism.
One thing that struck me was that during the exorsim prayers, the name of Jesus was never mentioned. Another thing that I rememberd was that as the exorsims were proceeding, the parents of the boy were never shown praying, but resembling patients sitting anxiously in a doctor’s office.
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I also caught part of the movie and thought it was somewhat like the Exorsism.
You can tell these movies are made for the consumption of the general public for the sake of making money only - not for authenticity.
I told my husband: “Have you noticed that the name of Jesus is never mentioned during the (exorsim) prayers?”
What I thought to be funny was how the parents (of the boy) were huddled together anxiously as waiting in a doctor’s office, instead of praying.
The movie also showed gargoyles for candle holders. I did not know that they use that in monastries.
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I reccomend reading books and other material written by Fr. Gabriel Amorth, official exorcist for the diocese of Rome. He is considered to be the foremost authority on exorcisms in the world, so I think he knows what he is talking about.
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Oh, and the Exorcist is actually one of his favorite movies. I personally know people who decided to look deeper into their faith life as a result of watching that movie, and now are some of the holiest people I know. When watching The Exorcist, I reccomend keeping in mind that it was made by hollywood, and some things are a bit sensationalized.
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I also would say that Exorcisms do not have potential to harm anyone. The only way they can be a harm, is if medical reasoning has been exausted, or if someone is un-qualified to perform the prayers.
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When I was a college freshman at the University of Dayton, I decided to do a research paper on Exorcism in the Catholic Church. I gained permission to do some research in a special section for the Marionist priests ( I think I had to have permission, it has be a LONG time ago.) I can still remember having a stack of books, transcripts, recordings etc., in front of me and I got through maybe 2-3 hours of research, alone at night in that section of the library when I got extremely creeped out, so came back the next day after my classes, trying to decide on my thesis and materials and got even more creeped out, just reading those transcripts was like being there and I couldnt’ stand it, but I didn’t want to give up! Finally, after 3 days of research I couldn’t take any more… thankfully, my professor was very understanding!
I watched a documentary one night about a house that a family lived in which was once a funeral home and their two sons slept downstairs. There was a demonic spirit that eventually possessed the teenage son. Apparently when it was a funeral home, they embalmed in the basement.. there was even equipmetn leftft.. I don't remember what it was called but it was EXTREMELY creepy. I thoght the parents were irresponsible for ignoring their instincts and putting their children in that situation. They ignored complaints from the children. :bigyikes:
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Ummm…are we talking about the same thing? Let’s clarify shall we!
The threat of transference would be from the victim to the exorcist. However, if the exorcist were properly trained and knew what he was doing, he wouldn’t be in that kind of a predicament.
Fr. Amorth repeatedly states in his book, “An Exorcist tells his story,” that an exorcism never did anyone any harm. In fact, he says that as an exorcist, he often says light prayers of exorcism to help determine whether or not there is demonic influence in someone. He does this even in confession, as exorcisms are blessings.
Just for more clarification…are you talking about a group of people praying for the deliverance of someone, or a priest who has been granted the office of exorcist that was performing a church sanctioned exorcism?
If it’s a group dealing with an authentic case of demonic possession…deal with extreme caution. Only an exorcist with the proper training should deal with demonic possession. Inexperienced, untrained people are placing themselves at risk when dealing with the posessed or demonic elements.
Otherwise, I think we are in agreement. The devil is bad, so let’s kick his butt.
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Justin
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peace-bwu,
I watched that too!!! It was called “A house in conneticut”. That was so scary, half way through I had to grab my rosary when my fiance chickened out and wouldn’t watch any more of it. I was so scared that night!!! It’s ok though, I understand that he is really sensitive when it comes to the occult and satan, he even go into a room if he thinks there is something bad there.
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Shoshanna,
The reason I said I didn’t think so is this. I started seeing these things when I was 8. I always saw the same things, even now. The frequency of which I see them hasn’t changed at all, except when someone dies, and that last only a few days to a week. I started trekkin in the cemeterys during highschool (when I worked for the town and had to work in the cemetry). I stopped when I moved because I don’t know if you can do that in a city. The amount of times I saw these spirits never changed after I went into the cemetery so I’m thinking that has no barring on the situation. Though i could be wrong, since i don’t know why i see these things, my own observations tell me that nothing makes them show up more, or make their presence known more than a death of someone I know and care about.
The reason I said I didn’t think so is this. I started seeing these things when I was 8. I always saw the same things, even now. The frequency of which I see them hasn’t changed at all, except when someone dies, and that last only a few days to a week. I started trekkin in the cemeterys during highschool (when I worked for the town and had to work in the cemetry). I stopped when I moved because I don’t know if you can do that in a city. The amount of times I saw these spirits never changed after I went into the cemetery so I’m thinking that has no barring on the situation. Though i could be wrong, since i don’t know why i see these things, my own observations tell me that nothing makes them show up more, or make their presence known more than a death of someone I know and care about.
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Ummm…are we talking about the same thing? Let’s clarify shall we!
The threat of transference would be from the victim to the exorcist. However, if the exorcist were properly trained and knew what he was doing, he wouldn’t be in that kind of a predicament.
The two priests that were performing the exorcism, (one very experienced, the other one no), were not the only ones who may have been threatened. We were told (we three women) that it was a possibility with us. We ministered to this woman for 5 years in every which way. Visits, phone, healing masses, etc. The exorcism proper was done in a specific place at a specific time, headed by the priests. We were pray-ers and kept the victim in one place.Code:
Fr. Amorth repeatedly states in his book, “An Exorcist tells his story,” that an exorcism never did anyone any harm. In fact, he says that as an exorcist, he often says light prayers of exorcism to help determine whether or not there is demonic influence in someone. He does this even in confession, as exorcisms are blessings.Code:
As only a priest can do that. It is too bad it isn’t done more often and regularly. The priest in question would read an exorcism prayer to himself and it would cause a profusion of activity in the victim. The victim never knew what hit her.Code:
Just for more clarification…are you talking about a group of people praying for the deliverance of someone, or a priest who has been granted the office of exorcist that was performing a church sanctioned exorcism?Code:
I know what deliverance sessions are. This is not the case. There were two priests with the blessing of two bishops. We women attended as a female witnesses to the ordeal and as pray-ers ‘silently’ as the exorcism was being performed.Code:
If it’s a group dealing with an authentic case of demonic possession…deal with extreme caution.Code:
This is what it was, a bone fide one. Caution, there was.Code:
Only an exorcist with the proper training should deal with demonic possession. Inexperienced, untrained people are placing themselves at risk when dealing with the posessed or demonic elements.Code:
True in both cases. We, as women, were called in due to our different gifts that we were blessed with and the fact that the victim was a woman. Two priests cannot be left alone with a female victim. As you would guess, this would be terribly unwise for obvious reasons. For the women pray-ers, this was a first.Code:
Otherwise, I think we are in agreement. The devil is bad, so let’s kick his butt.Code:
Yes, we are in agreement. The devil bad? Well, that would be an understatement. But he has no more power than what Jesus allows him to have and that we, as Christians, give him. Otherwise he is a coward. Kicking butt? Well, maybe one day there will be pay-back. :yup:Code:
Blessings,
Shoshana
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Thanks for the comic relief! How in the world did you come a across it?
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Monicathree
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this is interesting stuff…
I just love Jesus
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I just love Jesus
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I, for one don’t have much desire to spend money to go see Hollywood’s version of evil when I can walk down the street and see it every day for free! 
I admit, I was attracted to these movies when I was younger. However, they have always scared me to death. I am really sensitive to the occult. Witnessed too much scary stuff when I was away from the church. I know for a fact that some of this stuff is way too real!!
I admit, I was attracted to these movies when I was younger. However, they have always scared me to death. I am really sensitive to the occult. Witnessed too much scary stuff when I was away from the church. I know for a fact that some of this stuff is way too real!!
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