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anamchara
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Shoshana, That is amazing but I’m surprised, you are a perfect person for this kind of work. I really know nothing on this subject. Do all diocese have an office that deals with exoricisms?
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johnben
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My mom believes that my aunt was (and probably still is) possessed. My aunt was molested by my grandpa who has since died and I’ve heard that molestations are often how demons enter because it is a curse. She cut herself off from the family so my mom and grandma used to go over to her house to try and reconcile and my aunt would look through her window blinds, lock the doors and close the blinds in her house before they could even speak to her. They left love letters instead.
One time, my mom and grandma pulled into her driveway and she was on the porch and actually barking at them like a wild dog with red eyes. I guess it really frightened my mom and grandma.
My brother has also separated himself from our family. One time he said he was actually chased by a demon up our stairway and he cried with my family most the night while I was asleep. It was an event that moved him to God but now I think the demons are back. He got married in a courthouse without my parent’s knowing and he has left his daughter with my sister-in-law. I get to see my little niece but I don’t see my brother any more. Maybe I’m just paranoid but sometimes I wonder if she is oppressed by demons.
I’ve never heard of a little girl (she’s probably only three) be so fascinated by evil. She always wants me to play some evil character (with a toy) in her games while she’s also an evil character and she always ends up killing my character. And she likes repulsive animals and actually enjoys scaring people. And believe me, she’s good at it. It really spooks me actually.
I also have never, as far as I can remember, heard her say a kind word. I honestly think demons prevent her from saying kind things. After my parents babysat her one time, her mother told her to say “thank you”. She struggled for what must have been ten minutes to say thank you but couldn’t. It didn’t seem like she was merely under pressure and being bashful either. I’ve never seen a little kid struggle so much in my life. She never said it and would cry every time she tried, as if it was painful to her. She’d stop crying until she was asked to say thank you again. The only time I’ve heard her say thank you is at the table and it’s more or less just so that she can leave the table and does not sound sincere at all. I don’t think she has been baptized either and was probably out of wedlock so all of this makes since to me. Maybe I’m going too far though.
One time, my mom and grandma pulled into her driveway and she was on the porch and actually barking at them like a wild dog with red eyes. I guess it really frightened my mom and grandma.
My brother has also separated himself from our family. One time he said he was actually chased by a demon up our stairway and he cried with my family most the night while I was asleep. It was an event that moved him to God but now I think the demons are back. He got married in a courthouse without my parent’s knowing and he has left his daughter with my sister-in-law. I get to see my little niece but I don’t see my brother any more. Maybe I’m just paranoid but sometimes I wonder if she is oppressed by demons.
I’ve never heard of a little girl (she’s probably only three) be so fascinated by evil. She always wants me to play some evil character (with a toy) in her games while she’s also an evil character and she always ends up killing my character. And she likes repulsive animals and actually enjoys scaring people. And believe me, she’s good at it. It really spooks me actually.
I also have never, as far as I can remember, heard her say a kind word. I honestly think demons prevent her from saying kind things. After my parents babysat her one time, her mother told her to say “thank you”. She struggled for what must have been ten minutes to say thank you but couldn’t. It didn’t seem like she was merely under pressure and being bashful either. I’ve never seen a little kid struggle so much in my life. She never said it and would cry every time she tried, as if it was painful to her. She’d stop crying until she was asked to say thank you again. The only time I’ve heard her say thank you is at the table and it’s more or less just so that she can leave the table and does not sound sincere at all. I don’t think she has been baptized either and was probably out of wedlock so all of this makes since to me. Maybe I’m going too far though.
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RomanCrusader
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I have a huge fear of demons. I know God is most high and has infinite power over them and this helps calm me down. I don’t know why I am so terrified by the mere thought of them. Sometimes on random nights I’ve even slept with my light on because I’ve been so afraid.
I think it may be because of a documentary I saw on tv awhile ago that featured a haunted house. The image of the demon was horrifying to me.
I’ve never seen a demon (and I hope I never do). However I have had some ultra blasphemous thoughts/obsessions in my head that I think may have had a demonic orgin. I’m not sure.
I think it may be because of a documentary I saw on tv awhile ago that featured a haunted house. The image of the demon was horrifying to me.
I’ve never seen a demon (and I hope I never do). However I have had some ultra blasphemous thoughts/obsessions in my head that I think may have had a demonic orgin. I’m not sure.
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havemercy
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Man can at times be worse and more evil-looking than any demon could possibly hope to be… Remember that.
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Little_Mary
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Here is something I have been wondering about…
I had just bought the book by C. S. Lewis The Screwtape Letters I started to read it one night but was so sleepy I fell asleep almost immediately. I had a nightmare about my recently deceased brother - in the dream he appeared to be himself but voices kept telling me he was a demon. When I asked him - in the dream - if he was, his face immediately became very evil with red eyes and long sharp teeth and he hissed at me. I woke up.
To this day I blame the book. I put it in the basement and don’t care to read it.
Any expert opinions?
I had just bought the book by C. S. Lewis The Screwtape Letters I started to read it one night but was so sleepy I fell asleep almost immediately. I had a nightmare about my recently deceased brother - in the dream he appeared to be himself but voices kept telling me he was a demon. When I asked him - in the dream - if he was, his face immediately became very evil with red eyes and long sharp teeth and he hissed at me. I woke up.
To this day I blame the book. I put it in the basement and don’t care to read it.
Any expert opinions?
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wcknight
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One observation about dealing with demons is that, if anyone is unsure or skeptical about the supernatural, Witnessing an exorcism may convince them that demons and the devil exists and by showing that Jesus and God has power over them, they may also see that God exists.
I think the devil has gotten more devious in recent times, there seems to be far fewer possessions, and it is in his best interest if folks believe he doesn’t exist. I think the tremendous rise in atheism is a direct result of folks no longer seeing any signs of the supernatural either evil or good.
I would think that most atheists do not believe in anything outside of physical reality. IF spiritual evil exists and interacts with the real world then surely the good that can control evil exists in the being we call God or Jesus.
I think the devil has gotten more devious in recent times, there seems to be far fewer possessions, and it is in his best interest if folks believe he doesn’t exist. I think the tremendous rise in atheism is a direct result of folks no longer seeing any signs of the supernatural either evil or good.
I would think that most atheists do not believe in anything outside of physical reality. IF spiritual evil exists and interacts with the real world then surely the good that can control evil exists in the being we call God or Jesus.
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havemercy
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Mordocai
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reading books about demons can (and usually will) have a psychological influence on a person for a short time.
read the book, it is one of the best ive ever read, will teach you more about christianity than you might imagine. shows you how demons tempt, very very very important information.
the devil is an opportunist (as quoted from fr. corapi) and its so true. dont give him anything, and as i like to say, dont even give him a pebble. he can still throw really hard with it
know your self
know your enemy
most of all
KNOW your GOD.
unbound by neil lozano comes strongly recommended for those with a call (or interest in) deliverance ministry.
uses imprectatory commands. was this a recent decision by the church (as in within the last year) to stop using those kinds of commands (i.e. i command, i renounce etc)
always in the name of CHRIST
read the book, it is one of the best ive ever read, will teach you more about christianity than you might imagine. shows you how demons tempt, very very very important information.
the devil is an opportunist (as quoted from fr. corapi) and its so true. dont give him anything, and as i like to say, dont even give him a pebble. he can still throw really hard with it
know your self
know your enemy
most of all
KNOW your GOD.
unbound by neil lozano comes strongly recommended for those with a call (or interest in) deliverance ministry.
uses imprectatory commands. was this a recent decision by the church (as in within the last year) to stop using those kinds of commands (i.e. i command, i renounce etc)
always in the name of CHRIST
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Little_Mary
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That sounds like a good point .
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Shoshana
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The best, best perception on how the devil works is in the movie ‘The Devil’s Advocate’. Uncanny realism.
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Little_Mary
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Isn’t that a relatively new movie? Who’s in it? CAn I rent it?
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Shoshana
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Hello Little Mary…no, it is not new. Al Pacino plays in it …actually he is the devil. And Keanu Reeves…that is all I can remember…I swear the movie has cryptic messages…please watch it and let me know. You can rent this anywhere, I think. It has also been on tv the last couple of movies.
A movie of lawyers, sex, New York, etc etc…worth the watch by far…this gave me more goosebumps than the exorcism I was part of (a team) for five years!
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MJE
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A St Benedict medal, properly blessed, has some sort of exocism power, right? Have you ever used one of these? Or is that how it works?
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JimR-OCDS
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If you want detailed information on demonic possession and exorcism, I can’t recommend more, Fr Malachi Martin’s book,
“Hostage to the Devil.”
As I remember from the book, demonic possession just doesn’t happen, but rather, it’s a process. The demon works on the victim over time who eventually gives up to the demon, God’s greatest gift and that is, “free will.”
In the book, Hostage to the Devil, there are five documented cases of demonic possession which happened in the United States. One is a young girl, but there is even a Catholic priest who was demonically possessed.
Also according to the book, the exorcist priest, will combat the same demon for most of their life.
Most exorcist are not highly intellectual, nor are they dynamic in anyway. In fact, they are usually very humble simple priest. A priest with pride will be defeated in an exorcism. Great humility is mandated.
In one of the cases in the book, the victim is a Jewish teen. After the teen had spent years in psychiatry without success, his brother’s decided to seek out a priest, for they felt he may be possessed. The teen’s psychiatrist however, who was also Jewish and an athiest, opposed the exorcism, believing that the problem was purely pyschological. However, the brother’s found a priest and wanted him to do the exorcism. The rule in exorcism is that only the priest and a strong person, perhaps a police officer, could be in the room. However, the teen’s doctor refused to allow this. He insisted that he be allowed into the room as well. The priest finally agreed under the condition, that the doctor was to remain absolutely quiet, he was not to speak a word. The doctor agreed.
As the exorcism began the demon immediately went to work on the doctor, speaking to him about his mother, who had died years before. The demon told the doctor that his mother was in hell with him doing things I can’t mention here. The doctor remained silent until the demon started revealing things that happened between the him and his mother, back when he was a young boy. The doctor reacted by speaking against the demon. Now, the demon had him. For one, he broke the promise he made to the priest to remain silent. Second, he was an athiest and didn’t believe such things. Before it was over, the demon won the debate with the doctor. The doctor was left in the corner having a nervous breakdown, and had to be carried out and brought to a hospital. Then the demon violently attacked the priest physically. The priest was so badly beaten, that it took 3 months in the hospital to recover. The exorcism failed. However, after the priest revovered, he went back and performed a sucessful exorcism.
I may have some of the details incorrect, being it’s been a long time since I read the book. But the gist of it is correct.
All that being said. **I strongly advise, don’t spend much time on this subject. **Don’t give the devil more time than necessary. Go back to your spiritual devolopment in getting closser to Jesus,
and always look to Our Blessed Mother for protection.
It’s not a book for the sensitive, It kept me up at night a couple times.
Jim
“Hostage to the Devil.”
As I remember from the book, demonic possession just doesn’t happen, but rather, it’s a process. The demon works on the victim over time who eventually gives up to the demon, God’s greatest gift and that is, “free will.”
In the book, Hostage to the Devil, there are five documented cases of demonic possession which happened in the United States. One is a young girl, but there is even a Catholic priest who was demonically possessed.
Also according to the book, the exorcist priest, will combat the same demon for most of their life.
Most exorcist are not highly intellectual, nor are they dynamic in anyway. In fact, they are usually very humble simple priest. A priest with pride will be defeated in an exorcism. Great humility is mandated.
In one of the cases in the book, the victim is a Jewish teen. After the teen had spent years in psychiatry without success, his brother’s decided to seek out a priest, for they felt he may be possessed. The teen’s psychiatrist however, who was also Jewish and an athiest, opposed the exorcism, believing that the problem was purely pyschological. However, the brother’s found a priest and wanted him to do the exorcism. The rule in exorcism is that only the priest and a strong person, perhaps a police officer, could be in the room. However, the teen’s doctor refused to allow this. He insisted that he be allowed into the room as well. The priest finally agreed under the condition, that the doctor was to remain absolutely quiet, he was not to speak a word. The doctor agreed.
As the exorcism began the demon immediately went to work on the doctor, speaking to him about his mother, who had died years before. The demon told the doctor that his mother was in hell with him doing things I can’t mention here. The doctor remained silent until the demon started revealing things that happened between the him and his mother, back when he was a young boy. The doctor reacted by speaking against the demon. Now, the demon had him. For one, he broke the promise he made to the priest to remain silent. Second, he was an athiest and didn’t believe such things. Before it was over, the demon won the debate with the doctor. The doctor was left in the corner having a nervous breakdown, and had to be carried out and brought to a hospital. Then the demon violently attacked the priest physically. The priest was so badly beaten, that it took 3 months in the hospital to recover. The exorcism failed. However, after the priest revovered, he went back and performed a sucessful exorcism.
I may have some of the details incorrect, being it’s been a long time since I read the book. But the gist of it is correct.
All that being said. **I strongly advise, don’t spend much time on this subject. **Don’t give the devil more time than necessary. Go back to your spiritual devolopment in getting closser to Jesus,
and always look to Our Blessed Mother for protection.
It’s not a book for the sensitive, It kept me up at night a couple times.
Jim
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Kevin42
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I have an incredible curiousity about exorcisms and demons, but at the same time I am terrified of them. I think its interesting hearing about it, but I worry that I might not have the spiritual strength to deal with them. I can’t imagine what kind of mental and spiritual fortitude priests who perfom exorcisms must have.
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thechrismyster
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real good advice.
I’ve read just about every book and writing on the devil you could imagine… and it’s the same over and over, he want’s the spotlight. He wants you to forget that you are nothing without God, and wishes you to believe you are all unto yourself.
pride. I don’t even know if it’s his wish that you fall because of him, or that you fall LIKE him. Or more importantly, if we are simply the object of his hate. being that we’ve been created in the image and likeness of God and yet are lower than he is in the chain of creation. Did the revelation to him of OUR creation cause his pride to explode. Did satan not understand the wisdom of a Creator that would take a low creation like humans and elevate us to choose what angels were never allowed to, if we’d serve God or ourselves? Does he hate humans because we have what he’ll never have, the possibility of redemption from our fall of Adam? no matter the reason, satan chose poorly and lost all.
Cling to the Lord like a child hanging on the calf of his Father. With complete childlike faith in God’s providence and protection… and simply pray. The focus should be off the demon and on God.
Develop a relationship with God.
" When your cup is filled with love for the Lord, there is no room for the devil to pour his poison."
-Chris
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thechrismyster
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the Priest who performs an exorcism has the power to do so only by the power of Christ’s command… The priest himself is called to be quite humble and must realize that none of the power to exorcise comes from him, but comes by Christ.
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Dr.Bombay
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Hi, Shoshana. I’ve seen Devil’s Advocate. It has a lot of sex and nudey scenes in it. I think it’s an overall wicked film and I wouldn’t recommend anyone see it. It’s blasphemous. And if it really does have cryptic messages, those messages aren’t ones Catholics should be receiving. It was made by a bunch of reprobates and deviants in Hollywood, after all.Hello Little Mary…no, it is not new. Al Pacino plays in it …actually he is the devil. And Keanu Reeves…that is all I can remember…I swear the movie has cryptic messages…please watch it and let me know. You can rent this anywhere, I think. It has also been on tv the last couple of movies.
A movie of lawyers, sex, New York, etc etc…worth the watch by far…this gave me more goosebumps than the exorcism I was part of (a team) for five years!
But that’s just my opinion. :tiphat:
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JimR-OCDS
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True!
The movie, The Devils Advocate, has nothing to do with demonic possession or exorcism as it really exist.
Jim
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Shoshana
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[SIGN][/SIGN]
I understand your stand and I appreciate it…but truly it is my opinion that is how the devil is working today in our world which has much wickedness in it. Exorcisms is not the ordinary way the devil works…but the devil’s advocate is…
The strange part about this is that this movie is made by a bunch of deviants and yet, little do they know, that there is much truth to it. I have studied it…and see it around me all the time.
To start, do you not think that hell is covered with the souls of lawyers?
Do you not think that the devil entices one with very subtle messages of sensuality at the cost of one’s marriage? Does he not whisper into one’s ears titillating up-lifting sexual fantasies…again at the cost of marriage, single life, etc? He is smooth, so smooth…
Does he not rejoice over people’s divisions and hatred?
Does it take much for the world today to be tempted into making money or getting money in a less honest way because it is fast, it is quick and thus, brings one prestige. In french it is called ‘la loi du moindre effort’…the law of the least effort.
That is all my memory allows me to remember…for now…
But it could be a good teaching method for exactly how he works…
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