Exorcisms in Hinduism and Hindu trance

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I’ve read many forums on this website but it just doesn’t answer all the confusion for me, or rather the questions I have. I’m a born and raised Catholic in South Africa of Indian origin, my girlfriend is a Hindu (more specifically Tamil). A couple months ago she accompanied a mutual friend and the mutual friends mother - who was and still is possessed - to a guru for an exorcism. She told me that she while the exorcism happened, the door to the temple opened of its own accord and objects fell to the ground. The whole experience was pretty traumatic for her so she said she had to look away a lot of the time while crying but she did see a hairy worm crawl out of the mutual friends navel which the guru then dealt with. That being said, I trust what she told me as being 100% true.

Now we know that in the supernatural realm, there is only the Holy Trinity, angels (which branches into archangels, demons, Lucifer) and human souls… NOTHING ELSE.
I read a passage from the Bible where people questioned Jesus as to how he could exorcise others without being a devil worshipper himself and he stated that the devil would never exorcise his own kind. Hinduism is based on having many deities and we know that it is not our one true God so how can exorcisms in Hinduism or any other religion happen?

I was also told that during the exorcism, the guru was in a state of trance which is when a certain Hindu deity that is already within him is brought out to act out through his body. There different types of trances for example when one is at home doing their prayers, that person will just tremble when in trance and pray over others who are there whilst at a temple they would dance in a frantic manner, scream from time to time, perform fire walking or slughter and drink it’s blood - as with the Kali trance - all depending on which deity has come out.

Can someone please explain these things to me in a Catholic point of view?
 
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I’ve read many forums on this website but it just doesn’t answer all the confusion for me, or rather the questions I have. I’m a born and raised Catholic in South Africa of Indian origin, my girlfriend is a Hindu (more specifically Tamil). A couple months ago she accompanied a mutual friend and the mutual friends mother - who was and still is possessed - to a guru for an exorcism. She told me that she while the exorcism happened, the door to the temple opened of its own accord and objects fell to the ground. The whole experience was pretty traumatic for her so she said she had to look away a lot of the time while crying but she did see a hairy worm crawl out of the mutual friends navel which the guru then dealt with. That being said, I trust what she told me as being 100% true.

Now we know that in the supernatural realm, there is only the Holy Trinity, angels (which branches into archangels, demons, Lucifer) and human souls… NOTHING ELSE.
I read a passage from the Bible where people questioned Jesus as to how he could exorcise others without being a devil worshipper himself and he stated that the devil would never exorcise his own kind. Hinduism is based on having many deities and we know that it is not our one true God so how can exorcisms in Hinduism or any other religion happen?

I was also told that during the exorcism, the guru was in a state of trance which is when a certain Hindu deity that is already within him is brought out to act out through his body. There different types of trances for example when one is at home doing their prayers, that person will just tremble when in trance and pray over others who are there whilst at a temple they would **dance in a frantic manner, scream from time to time, perform fire walking or slaughter and drink it’s blood - as with the Kali trance - all depending on which deity has come out.
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Can someone please explain these things to me in a Catholic point of view?
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It sounds more like the person who was possessed was the one doing the ritual (killing and drinking blood, screaming, dancing in a frantic manner). I don’t believe those rituals could be valid, because in the Bible, it says not to drink blood. I question the authenticity of it.
 
The guru had a tamed trance during the exorcism, you wouldn’t have known he had trance without him telling you… As with anyone under trance, they are able to know the unknown, tell you the names of people who have practiced black magic to cause you harm yet they’ve never met or heard of that person before… Again I state that this is a true recount from my girlfriend of 3 years, she’s seen everything I’ve described so far except for the animal sacrifices.
 
It sounds like something evil was happening.

I suspect it was theater of sorts, that the demons were using. Your friend’s friend’s mother is still in great need and needs prayer and a real exorcism.

You may find Senses Fidelium channel on Youtube helpful. Fr. Ripperger is an exorcist and he has several videos on demonic possession, oppression and obsession.
 
The Church has always been concerned for its children, especially with those looking towards mixed marriages, precisely for the reasons your explaining here. You need to have a clear and solid grounding in your own faith for these issues not to disturb you.

Firstly, see your priest and ask for additional catechesis where your concerns may be addressed more fully. Avoid religious practices that are outside your faith until you are secure in what you have been taught. Because you have an Indian background, you may inadvertently identify with Hinduism, a great temptation you need to resist, especially as the love for your girl friend and her family may draw you in to their religion. Be strong and take courage in what Christ has shown you in your Church. Above all, be chaste in your relationship with her, and read, understand and embody the Church teaching on sexuality and relationships and Catholic marriage.

Be willing to understand her, but also to defend your beliefs strongly, you have been given the pearl of great price in your Catholic faith, treasure it and do not let it slip from your hand as your bewildered by these strange goings on. Especially with things, that we not need confuse ourselves with, spend great energy on or be scared of for no sound reason.

Our faith is fully based on the love of Christ and unsound practices have been overcome by both Christ and God’s prophets. And again, go to your priest and attend mass regularly, so that she knows without doubt that you are as serious and true to your faith as you proclaim. I pray God strengthen you and give you courage to hold to the faith that you’ve be given.
 
The truth is that nobody here can give you an answer because nobody knows the answer, All they can do is speculate. Nobody was there, nobody knows if the possession was real or a psychological problem (which can respond to the power of suggestion and belief) or what. I do know from my reading that some psychologists have claimed to “exorcise” patients who believed they were possessed and the belief was so strong and the power of the suggestion was so strong that the manifestations of the possession stopped. I wish I could remember where I was reading that. However, it still is true that you aren’t going to get an exact answer to your question because nobody really knows what is going on.
 
Thank you all for your feedback, it’s really appreciated… But I must state that I have an unwavering faith in Christ no matter what my heritage may be, my parents, grandparents and great-grandparent were all Christian/Catholic… But being an Indian in South Africa, you do have extended family and friends who are Hindustani which allows me to recount everything that happens. And I do understand the whole process of our church when it comes to exorcisms such as getting permission from your bishop etc. and I do see why some would be inclined to think that it could be psychological with respect to my friend’s mom but you must understand, when a Hindu is in trance, they do, without a doubt, have an entity in them and they do, without a doubt, see things that normal human beings cannot see… This brings me to an I’ve read by a Catholic woman who quotes 1 Cor chapter 10 vs 18-20… St Paul stated that food offered to the alter of idols is in fact offered to demons. Based on our teachings, God would never take away our freewill so wouldn’t that imply that people who are in trance (and lose total control of their bodys) are possessed in some way? Or atleast have a form of demonic attachment (a term used in an interview by Fr Gary Thomas who the movie “The rite” was based on). Sorry for the long reply.
 
I believe you when you describe the reality of the Hindu entities taking over. This happens in every culture, but they may be called by other names. It sounds like the person who is being ‘taken over’ is compliant with it in this case. They agree to it and probably think it is a good thing.

God permits a possession in a believer for any number of reasons. Sometimes, the person possessed is given it as an opportunity to grow spiritually. But, that doesn’t sound like the case you are describing. That poor woman.

Skeptics can think what they like.

You and your girlfriend will be in my prayers.
 
I recommend to you the book “An Exorcist Tells His Story” by Fr Gabriel Amorth and his follow up “An Exorcist - More Stories”.

I am not an expert, but from what I have read on this topic, this does not sound like a good situation.
 
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