Experience of those who've stopped attending the N.O.?

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How is the Host being profaned? I just don’t understand. I have been Catholic for 69 years, raised in the 40s and 50s with the Latin Mass. Then came Vatican II and all the changes. I have “never” seen the Host profaned in a Catholic Church. Expalin please. Thank you.
I didn’t use that word or raise that objection - you would have to take that up with the original poster. I don’t believe it is being profaned.

But I was simply stating my objection to the idea that there seems to be something very wrong on the face of it when someone opts essentially to:

***“Go to Mass less out of respect for Jesus” ***

It really doesn’t add up.
 
How is the Host being profaned? I just don’t understand. I have been Catholic for 69 years, raised in the 40s and 50s with the Latin Mass. Then came Vatican II and all the changes. I have “never” seen the Host profaned in a Catholic Church. Expalin please. Thank you.
It’s probably just the area I live in but I have seen people take the Host and I’ve also had my friends see people steal them for who knows what. Of course when we have, they’ve been caught but I often wonder how many have not. That said, people who are out to profane the Host will do it even if they receive on the tongue. It’s just harder. I’ve also found them spit out on floor after someone received on the tongue. My husband, fortunately ()or unfortunately, found it and consumed it before it could be stepped on and it was already soggy. :eek: Pastor said that had happened for 3 weeks. I think he alerted the ushers to the problem. It stopped, thankfully.
 
Another reason why Communion in the Hand might not be advisable. How about fear that it might not be consumed? A family member of mine once saw someone taking it and attempting to leave the Church with it. Now, I think a nun rushed to stop them - but we have to ponder - while it’s possible that someone might remove it from their mouth, think of the possibility of the Blessed Sacrament not being consumed - and perhaps used elsewhere for evil purposes (to defile it).
 
“Go to Mass less out of respect for Jesus”…hmm… that is indeed a stark way of putting it but pretty much the question I was asking. Well, really it is “Shun a made-by-committee Mass out of respect for Jesus?” Anyways, I appreciate everyone’s opinions & experiences. I think I am going to take it on a day to day basis for the time being.
 
Another reason why Communion in the Hand might not be advisable. How about fear that it might not be consumed? A family member of mine once saw someone taking it and attempting to leave the Church with it. Now, I think a nun rushed to stop them - but we have to ponder - while it’s possible that someone might remove it from their mouth, think of the possibility of the Blessed Sacrament not being consumed - and perhaps used elsewhere for evil purposes (to defile it).
I have nothing specific to say about Communion in the hand or by placing the Host on the tongue by a priest, but if I were a priest, I would think that all those tongues sticking out would be a bit disgusting. And although I think all respect and reverence is due the Host, perhaps we shouldn’t worry too much about what "someone else does with the Host, but what we ourselves do with it.🙂
 
I have nothing specific to say about Communion in the hand or by placing the Host on the tongue by a priest, but if I were a priest, I would think that all those tongues sticking out would be a bit disgusting. And although I think all respect and reverence is due the Host, perhaps we shouldn’t worry too much about what "someone else does with the Host, but what we ourselves do with it.🙂
I guess all those priests for thousands of years thought that to. Not!. Just now in the late 20th and early 21st century do we wish to change an age old tradition. Glad your not a priest?.
 
I do not go to daily Mass when a certain priest says it, only because he’s so old and as a result only gives Holy Communion in the hand. When this happens on Sunday then (can’t get to a TLM every week) I stay in my seat and make a Spiritual Communion. The priest’s hands are consecrated, and only he should be giving out Holy Communion. If the priest, for whatever reason, isn’t distributing Holy Communion, I do not go foward.😦
 
I do not go to daily Mass when a certain priest says it, only because he’s so old and as a result only gives Holy Communion in the hand. When this happens on Sunday then (can’t get to a TLM every week) I stay in my seat and make a Spiritual Communion. The priest’s hands are consecrated, and only he should be giving out Holy Communion. If the priest, for whatever reason, isn’t distributing Holy Communion, I do not go foward.😦
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I used to go to the NO everyday for Daily Mass…until I went to my first TLM…and then that is where I started going everyday…even though it is farther for me. I still go to my NO on Saturday evenings and then to High Mass at my TLM onSunday morning.

There are many reasons and Communion in the hand is one. The NO Mass was a school Mass and I had seen children either drop the Host or almost drop the Host and just stoop over and pick it up. Also not the attention to having patens. Even at the TLM if there are no servers we pass the paten to the next communicant.To put it bluntly…not the level of reverence at my NO…sad to say.

Our diocese requires us(if we become associates at a TLM) to continue to attend and support or parish where we are registered and so that is why I go Saturday eves.
 
“Our diocese requires us(if we become associates at a TLM) to continue to attend and support or parish where we are registered and so that is why I go Saturday eves.”

And this is supposed to be fair to the priest who studied long and hard to say the Latin Mass in compliance with the Holy Father’s wishes?
 
“Our diocese requires us(if we become associates at a TLM) to continue to attend and support or parish where we are registered and so that is why I go Saturday eves.”

And this is supposed to be fair to the priest who studied long and hard to say the Latin Mass in compliance with the Holy Father’s wishes?
The local bishop has the obligtion to see to it that every parish is self-supporting. When he requires that people support the parish in which they are registered, it is not a rejection of the priests who celebrate mass in Latin. If people are registered within that parish, then they have the obligation to support it, whether they like the Latin mass or not. The issue is about supporting the parish.

I don’t know if the parish that you attend where they celebrate the Latin mass is religious or secular; but if it’s secular, each priest will be paid his monthly salary, regardless of whether you support that parish or not. Secular priests are paid a regular salary for their duties.

Religious priests are not paid salaries. This also causes another problem for some parishes. If a parish is run by religious priests, they depend on the membership of the parish to support not only the religious who work in the parish, but also the members of their religious institute who are sick or retired. The arrangement is that a bishop gives the religious order a fixed amount of money from the parish’s income, regardless of the number of mouths that they have to feed. When the parish income drops, so does the stipend that the bishop allows the religious order to have. In the meantime, the number of mouths they feed, sick and retired that they care for remains constant. Religious priests serving in a parish may only keep a portion of the stipend that the bishop allows. They use this for all of the needs of the community that lives at the parish. The rest of the money is sent to the motherhouse for the care of other religious who are no longer in active ministry.

To preserve this economic balance, bishops have to demand that people support the parish in which they are registered. Otherwise, it makes finances unmanageable and income for each parish unpredictable. A bishop will have a difficult time assigning secular priests to a parish if he doesn’t have an idea how much income it will have and whether they can afford their salaries. He will also have a difficult time asking a religious order to help him by taking over a parish if he can’t garrantee a fixed income for the religious

For example: Our parish is run by Capuchin Brothers. Three of the Brothers are priests, four are not. They have to feed seven people on the income that the bishop allows for the three that are priests, even though the other four minister in the parish and one of them is the superior of the community. He arranges to make sure that the pastor does his job and that the Brothers who are priests have what they need to care for the faithful. But the diocese does not include him in their honorarium or the other three Brothers who are not priests. For this parish, it is important to know how much is going to come in every month. They have to send part of the money to the motherhouse and they have to feed seven people on the salary of two, not three.

In secular parishes this is not a problem. There are no reigious. They are all secular priests and each has a monthly salary, plus they are allowed to work in any other job that pays them a salary when they’re not on duty in their parish. They may also own property such as homes, stocks, bonds and retirement plans. Religious may not have any of this.

It sounds like your bishop just wants to keep the distribution of parish income stable, not that he’s picking on the priests who celebrate mass in Latin. Also, remember that the diocese pays for most of the education of priests from graduate school forward. All of these guys worked just as hard in school or they would not have graduated from garduate school. It’s really not fair to say that the priests who celebrate mass in Latin made great sacrifices. They learned to say mass in Latin. That does not take years of education. I can say this with a certain amount of authority as I taught languages in a seminary for a year. The class was once a week for a semester.

JR 🙂
 
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I am not saying whether it is fair or not, but the TLM is said by an FSSP priest and is said at an oratory not a parish church per se…but I contribute to both.
 
I guess all those priests for thousands of years thought that to. Not!. Just now in the late 20th and early 21st century do we wish to change an age old tradition. Glad your not a priest?.
Answer to question. Yes, I am glad I’m not a priest. In fact I am glad I’m not a man. Secondly, yes, I think that just once in a while a priest would look at that tongue and think, "Yeck!. Frankly I don’t see the problem in changing a tradition. That is not the same as changing the Mass. I don’t think either method, In the hand, or on the tongue,of receiving communion should be changed. And yes, I like the New Mass, love the Latin Mass.🙂
 
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