Experiences of people from other Rites

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You are probably intersted in something else but you also could like this book:
Philip Jenkins: The Lost History of Christianity.
Once it was mentioned in this forum. I haven’t a clue when, by whom, and in which thread but maybe you will find it.
 
While it is interesting, that book does not go into Eastern Catholic rites at all, Nestor Kea. A better book for someone looking to compare the Eastern/Oriental and Western/Latin liturgies would be Donald Attwater’s Eastern Catholic Worship, as it is a collection of the main texts from each non-Latin Catholic liturgy, with the Latin Mass as it was known then (1945) appended for comparative purposes. It doesn’t really go into the theology behind the liturgies (in fact, the only parts written by the author himself are brief introductions before each liturgical text, which explain the circumstances of each people and anyway are horribly out of date by now), but a reader can grasp those simply by comparing the texts themselves. You can buy a used hardback copy today on Aamazon for $10, and I’d say it is well worth that for someone who is really interested in the topic and likes to deal with primary sources.
 
Nestor_kea said:
Αγνή Παρθένε - O, Blessed Virgin

Arabic with English subtitles
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y7PNnCqDK4o

English
part 1: youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L4E3ToVNOD4
part 2: youtube.com/watch?v=2fHhzVA5a3g

Romanian
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5yP4tQU2pIs

Valaam Choir
youtube.com/watch?v=C7vvPXz-Qes (wait for a while)

Choir of St. Roman “Sweet Singer” (Prešov, Slovakia)
youtube.com/watch?v=vCk_2S6F9lk

Choir of Sinopetra monastery
youtube.com/watch?v=IomxvOTf-So

Holy Trisagion
Syriac(n): youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n5C6lq5QwDg
Greek: youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SdElBE5-NQA#!
Armenian: youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oiOLYxOeCT0

bishop’s blessing
youtube.com/watch?v=Zg8rOng0iOo

from Symposium in Gaming
youtube.com/watch?v=UsL61X5fOLU

Viruju (Creed)
youtube.com/watch?v=XW_HcK_aciI (wait a little)
youtube.com/watch?v=XWMaKTJiP-0 (text)
youtube.com/watch?v=y7ICGLj7JFI

The Lord’s Prayer
youtube.com/watch?v=aBofiUZzUHc
youtube.com/watch?v=x8wt3Jf_tXk
youtube.com/watch?v=bIakNrStTW8

Gospodi pomiluj
youtube.com/watch?v=WRrT-lQ4LGU
youtube.com/watch?v=Biar1R3tCYE

Невеста Неневестная (Афонский распев)
Unwedded bride (Akatist to the Most Holy Mother of God)
youtube.com/watch?v=25v8LpelgPI&feature=endscreen&NR=1
(maybe the gratest propagation was when John Paul II prayed this akatist during his visit to Slovakia)

Научи меня, Господи, славить Тебя
Teach me, Lord, to celebrate You
youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=y_SCa92j14k

Благослови душе моя Господа
My soul hallows the Lord
youtube.com/watch?v=c9Q0bBls6_0

Царице Моя Преблагая
My “super good” Empress
youtube.com/watch?v=yjVHf9yWCjs

Χερουβικός ύμνος - Херувимская песнь - Cherubic hymn
youtube.com/watch?v=IHrAchrmYRc

The Lord’s Lamentations (Romanian Orthodox Church Chant)
youtube.com/watch?v=V6s5Jo3Je5Q
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I just finished watching all of these. I have to say I wasn’t expecting such beauty. And you say these exact hymns are sung among Eastern Catholics? Or is it just strictly the Orthodox?
 
dzheremi said:
While it is interesting, that book does not go into Eastern Catholic rites at all, Nestor Kea. A better book for someone looking to compare the Eastern/Oriental and Western/Latin liturgies would be Donald Attwater’s Eastern Catholic Worship, as it is a collection of the main texts from each non-Latin Catholic liturgy, with the Latin Mass as it was known then (1945) appended for comparative purposes. It doesn’t really go into the theology behind the liturgies (in fact, the only parts written by the author himself are brief introductions before each liturgical text, which explain the circumstances of each people and anyway are horribly out of date by now), but a reader can grasp those simply by comparing the texts themselves. You can buy a used hardback copy today on Aamazon for $10, and I’d say it is well worth that for someone who is really interested in the topic and likes to deal with primary sources.
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Additionally, I enjoyed Archdale King’s The Rites of Eastern Christendom in that same vein of writing.
 
MorEphrem said:
Additionally, I enjoyed Archdale King’s The Rites of Eastern Christendom in that same vein of writing.
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Over a $140 worth…and in two volumes too…😦 You’re a very cruel person. There’s no way I could get this.
 
Yes, this is why I didn’t recommend King’s set…Attwater’s book is a very affordable overview in lieu of King’s much more expensive and expansive set. 🙂
 
Crimson_Silence said:
I just finished watching all of these. I have to say I wasn’t expecting such beauty. And you say these exact hymns are sung among Eastern Catholics? Or is it just strictly the Orthodox?
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Catholic/Orthodox is faith, Byzantine is rite. Greek (or Byzantine) Catholic are of Byzantine rite – the same as (nearly all) Orthodox. So they have same liturgies, hymns etc. There are minor diferences: for example Eastern Catholics pray for “the Supreme Pontiff of Your universal Church, our Holy Father [name], the Pope of Rome” many times what Orthodox do not + some small modifications because of different doctrine, but if you do not understand the language you probably will not realise. (Russian) Orthodox usually use heavier robes and Greek Catholics from not so heavy materials but they are very similar.
To sum up: Orthodox and Greek Catholics have the same Byzantine rite so the way how they express their faith is nearly same. Within this rite there are traditions (Byzantine-Slavic, Byzantine-Greek, Byzantine-Melkite) and within this traditions there are “redactions” and some of these redactions have finer structure but this is common for Orthodox as well as Catholics. Hymns and prayers to some saints are in one or another churchs if it is saint from times of devided church.

Remember that not all Eastern Catholics are Greek (or Byzantine) Catholics. There is huge family of Antioch-connected rites like Maronite, Syriac, Malabar, Chaldean. There are also Copts and Ethiopians. And Armenians. Two versions of Trisagion were in Armean and Syrian.

Music to which I posted the links is mixture of Catholic and Orthodox. Creed is from catholic interprets, some hymns are sung by orthodox, Agni Parthene by both, often I don not know and can just guess (by country, monastic dress…).
 
The article is a little bit out of date and a little bit unexact.

Maronites stete never to be separated, Italo-Albanians were “Pope’s Greeks” so never separated. Sometimes it is in question how it was with Malabarians.

There are 22 of 22 Eastern Catholic sui iuris churches. Georgians are not the 22nd but if, so 23rd as a special group.

Romanian GCC is a major archiepiscopal church.

Slovak GCC ia a metropolitan church.

Within one sui iuris there can be groups “independent” on each other.
For example Ruthenian GCC has eparchy in Carpathian Rus (in Western Ukraine), metropolia in the USA, and exarchate in the Czech republic. Slovak GCC consists from metropolia in Slovakia and eparchy in Canada but this two entities do not “coincide”. There are also other examples.
 
It was suggested earlier that most Eastern Rite Catholics were born to Eastern Rite families?

Anyone out there switch rites? If so, why?
 
Stella_Matutina said:
It was suggested earlier that most Eastern Rite Catholics were born to Eastern Rite families?

Anyone out there switch rites? If so, why?
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Because Roman Symbology and Theology made it hard for me to stay in the church. (And I’m familiar with both the Dominican and Roman rites.
 
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