Expert Actress on Gun Control

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I took the test but never enlisted. I think I got hounded by the Navy, though, because I scored about the same as you.
 
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We Catholics need to stand up for strides toward safety.
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But why not apply some logical thinking to direct those strides?

In the US there is a negative correlation between violence and guns sales.
 
IWantGod said:
The point is, gun regulation is about damage control. It’s not about taking people’s favorite guns away just to be mean. Its about limiting the harm that somebody can do to members of the public.
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No, there is no logic or cause and effect to your claims. Except for confiscation, all the changes proposed would have no impact, they would not prevent the next occurance.
 
No logic, only feels

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Theo520 said:
No, there is no logic or cause and effect to your claims. Except for confiscation, all the changes proposed would have no impact, they would not prevent the next occurance.
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If we had said the goal was to prevent school killings from ever occurring by banning certain weapons, then your argument would be correct. But as it stands your argument is a straw-man and a red herring if i have ever seen one becuase that is not the argument.

Of course banning the AR15 would have an impact on future occurrences, the potential for less people being harmed has increased.

Perhaps you want to argue that doesn’t matter. But is does matter if we care about saving lives.
 
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A few random thoughts: yes, it is super rich that the same people who are mad about celebrities spouting off as if they were experts elected a reality tv personality to the presidency. We live in the darkest timeline.

Anyway, on guns: shooting guns is fun. Having a gun in your home for protection is perfectly acceptable, in my mind. That said, I have never for the life of me been able to figure out the people who get obsessed with guns and make it the centerpiece of their identity. I have a gun at home. If someone broke in and was intent on harming my family, I’d use it without a second thought. Past that, my gun has about as much emotional significance for me as a fire extinguisher. It’s just a tool. It’s not some sacred symbol or whatever.

And LOL at the middle-aged guys with hero complexes who like to pontificate about liberty and tyranny. Have fun with your Red Dawn fantasies.

We probably just need to repeal the Second Amendment, honestly, and make gun ownership a privilege instead of a right.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
We probably just need to repeal the Second Amendment, honestly, and make gun ownership a privilege instead of a right.
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To settle the debate you’re correct. However, it’s a right regardless of whether the government recognizes it as such.

Self defense is a natural right. As such access to the tools to do so is protected under the right to self defense. You can’t say someone has a right to defend their own life and then say they don’t have the right to the tools necessary to effectively do so.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
And LOL at the middle-aged guys with hero complexes who like to pontificate about liberty and tyranny. Have fun with your Red Dawn fantasies.
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Also, this wasn’t directed at any individuals in this thread. More just the archetype of the middle aged dude who carries six guns and is obsessed with security.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
Self defense is a natural right. As such access to the tools to do so is protected under the right to self defense. You can’t say someone has a right to defend their own life and then say they don’t have the right to the tools necessary to effectively do so.
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Self defense is a right, but it’s not an absolute, unqualified right. And I’m not proposing banning all guns. But I would take a hard look at guns that have a primarily military function. I can’t think of anything less suited to home defense, at least for most Americans, than an AR-15.
 
We’ll have to agree to disagree. I find the AR-15 to be a perfect weapon for many roles.

I keep one sbr version chambered in 9mm with a suppressor next to my bed and I keep a another sbr 5.56 one in my truck along with a plate carrier a few extra mags and a med kit in case of emergencies away from home. Then of course I also carry a pistol on me anytime I’m wearing pants.

AR’s are lightweight, easy to handle, low recoil, and easy to become proficient with. My ex gf weighed 95 pounds and was about 5’ tall. There was no rifle easier for her to handle than an ar.
 
IWantGod said:
If we had said the goal was to prevent school killings from ever occurring by banning certain weapons, then your argument would be correct. But as it stands your argument is a straw-man and a red herring if i have ever seen one becuase that is not the argument.

Of course banning the AR15 would have an impact on future occurrences, the potential for less people being harmed has increased.

Perhaps you want to argue that doesn’t matter. But is does matter if we care about saving lives.
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Stop deflecting,
There is a clear negative correlation between reducing levels of violence and increased levels of guns. I’m not arguing causation, just pointing out the negative correlation.

Why do you imagine a school shooter wouldn’t chose a substitute weapon if the AR-15 was disappeared? Past school shooters have used a wide range of other weapons.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
I keep one sbr version chambered in 9mm with a suppressor next to my bed and I keep a another sbr 5.56 one in my truck along with a plate carrier a few extra mags and a med kit in case of emergencies away from home. Then of course I also carry a pistol on me anytime I’m wearing pants.
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I have to ask: what are you anticipating going down in your daily life?
 
IWantGod said:
I’m not the one deflecting its you! You are avoiding the argument because you know you can’t refute it.
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I refuted your argument in my last paragraph, please start reading full posts before responding.
 
Absolutely nothing. I keep a fire extinguisher and a tool set in the car too. I don’t expect a fire or flat but it’s nice to have the tools needed on hand.

I have used the truck gun to dispatch quite a few coyotes lurking around cattle pastures.
 
lol. You are living in a dream world. Any weapon that has the same potential for harm as the Ar15 needs to be removed from the general public. That’s the bottom line.
 
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You are not open to reason. You are ignoring everything that has been said.
And you clearly don’t think damage control even matters when it comes to saving your sacred and most favorite gun.
 
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I have a fire extinguisher too, but you have the equivalent of, like, ten.

That said, this is a good example of where we could probably use more local control. Most Americans aren’t worried about coyotes near cattle pastures, because that’s just not apart of their world. What works for states with low population density may not work for more urbanized ones.
 
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