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[teeboy]

Why can’t we judge other individuals behavior?

For the same reason we can’t judge a teenager who’s parents work in a mental ward or prison to the same degree as a teenager who’s parents work in the finest office building uptown.

This is similar to comparing an individual who grew up in Bethlehem on the outskirts of the temple in Jerusalem vs. one who grew up in Galilee.

 

[teeboy]

Think of this the next time you use the phrase “moral behavior”. Especially in an international sense.

 

[LightBound]

Why can’t we judge other individuals behavior?

For the same reason we can’t judge a teenager who’s parents work in a mental ward or prison to the same degree as a teenager who’s parents work in the finest office building uptown.

This is similar to comparing an individual who grew up in Bethlehem on the outskirts of the temple in Jerusalem vs. one who grew up in Galilee.

Why are we judging anything at all? We were advised not to several times in the Bible.

What does a teenager who has gainfully employed parents (whether they are the warden in the prison you mentioned or the janitor in the uptown office building, also mentioned) have to do with anything?

 

[teeboy]

Compare a priest who visits prisoners to one who doesn’t.

 

[LightBound]

Compare a priest who visits prisoners to one who doesn’t.

You are still going in circles- one priest may have many other obligations and one priest may have a prison ministry. This is starting to sound like apples to oranges- or is that the point you’re trying to prove with this examples?

 

[sw85]

Why can’t we judge other individuals behavior?

For the same reason we can’t judge a teenager who’s parents work in a mental ward or prison to the same degree as a teenager who’s parents work in the finest office building uptown.

This is similar to comparing an individual who grew up in Bethlehem on the outskirts of the temple in Jerusalem vs. one who grew up in Galilee.

Erm, we can judge their behaviors. We just can’t judge their culpability for them.

 

[dshix]

Teeboy, what’s your point?

 

[MaryT777]

Think of this the next time you use the phrase “moral behavior”. Especially in an international sense.

Can you give an example of this; using the phrsaise moral behavior in an international sense and what the point is.
Thank you,
It’s an interesting question it just leaves a person kind of going Huh?
Mary.

 

[Joe_5859]

Teeboy, what’s your point?

Yes, I am having trouble following what the purpose of this thread is.

 

[teeboy]

Why are we judging anything at all? We were advised not to several times in the Bible.

What does a teenager who has gainfully employed parents (whether they are the warden in the prison you mentioned or the janitor in the uptown office building, also mentioned) have to do with anything?

A prison or mental institution would be infested with demons and would bring them back home.

 

[teeboy]

Can you give an example of this; using the phrsaise moral behavior in an international sense and what the point is.
Thank you,
It’s an interesting question it just leaves a person kind of going Huh?
Mary.

Morality as per the Universal Declaration of Human Rights adopted in 1948 by the General Assembly of the U.N., specifically Article 29.

 

[ahs]

A prison or mental institution would be infested with demons and would bring them back home.

Morality as per the Universal Declaration of Human Rights adopted in 1948 by the General Assembly of the U.N., specifically Article 29.

Are you saying that we can’t judge a behavior (a sin, per se) committed by a person based on the fact that the person is under the influence of evil?

What does the U.N. 's Delcaration of Human Rights have to do with Church teaching? What is Article 29?

 

[teeboy]

Erm, we can judge their behaviors. We just can’t judge their culpability for them.

Exactly

 

[teeboy]

Are you saying that we can’t judge a behavior (a sin, per se) committed by a person based on the fact that the person is under the influence of evil?

What does the U.N. 's Delcaration of Human Rights have to do with Church teaching? What is Article 29?

29 deals with limitations on rights to act within just requirements of morality. Morality tends to deal especially with sexual relations.

 

[LightBound]

A prison or mental institution would be infested with demons and would bring them back home.

Okay. If you say so. You’ve obviously never been exposed to the corporate world inside an upscale office building. If you think there are demons in mental institutions and prisons, wait until you see the kind that guides the wealthy and ambitious…

 

[teeboy]

Okay. If you say so. You’ve obviously never been exposed to the corporate world inside an upscale office building. If you think there are demons in mental institutions and prisons, wait until you see the kind that guides the wealthy and ambitious…

That’s a good one.

Traditionally, Catholics believe in the devil and demons who tempt.

My point is that… The degree to which we judge will be doled out to us.

Some individuals are tempted by a greater or lesser degree than other individuals… Hence, the reason we can’t judge culpability.

 

[LightBound]

That’s a good one.

Traditionally, Catholics believe in the devil and demons who tempt.

My point is that… The degree to which we judge will be doled out to us.

Some individuals are tempted by a greater or lesser degree than other individuals… Hence, the reason we can’t judge culpability.

A good one? Hard to tell if you’re being serious or sarcastic.

Of course I know what Catholics traditionally believe. I was stating that if you think there are demons tempting people in mental institutions and prisons, there are most certainly demons presenting all sorts of temptations out in the corporate world of greed, power, and ambition.

 

[ahs]

A good one? Hard to tell if you’re being serious or sarcastic.

Of course I know what Catholics traditionally believe. I was stating that if you think there are demons tempting people in mental institutions and prisons, there are most certainly demons presenting all sorts of temptations out in the corporate world of greed, power, and ambition.

Yes…and lust. I doubt one would find any more lust or infedelity or adultery or divorce in a prison than one would find lurking in the corporate world.

Teeboy, I think I see what you are getting at…that we hate the sin, not the sinner…that we judge the action, not the person. The article here is a great read on the topic:

blog.adw.org/2010/06/correcting-the-sinner-is-not-being-judgmental-it-is-an-essential-work-of-charity/

 

[teeboy]

Yes…and lust. I doubt one would find any more lust or infedelity or adultery or divorce in a prison than one would find lurking in the corporate world.

Teeboy, I think I see what you are getting at…that we hate the sin, not the sinner…that we judge the action, not the person. The article here is a great read on the topic:

blog.adw.org/2010/06/correcting-the-sinner-is-not-being-judgmental-it-is-an-essential-work-of-charity/

This, yes. And, the U.N. declaration of right with respect to morality and limitations around individual rights as per morals. This U.N. issue is too broad.