Explaining my Catholic friends protestant false accusations agains Catholic church

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It’s a baptism perrformed because it cannot be ascertained if a previous ‘baptism’ was valid, if for instance the baptism could have been not in the name of the father the son and Holy Spirit. I think.
 
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decided after my conditional baptism
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What is a conditional baptism?
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“If you have not already been validly baptised, then I baptise you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.”
 
I was evangelical. I attended a small sect(not a evangelical denomination) sect per se for 10 years. They have a strong anti-catholic atitude(c for example the catholic church is the Babilonian whore from Revelation and so on)Before that I had been a Lutheran. Then after the evangelical period I attend the tridentine mass, but I seemed me too sectarian , what the people said about popes from St John XXIII to Francis, the Mass of St Paul VI, saints canonised after Pius XII and I left it, albeit I love that mass. I hold that traditional opinions too but in the end I cancelled them, That protestant sect manipulated my ex - girfriend towards me, because in that sect you could not talk with woman except necessary case. They control your life in details, when you are not in the congregation. I pray for her dailly that she may become aware of danger of that sect and one day may she left it. She is mentally ill(serrious endogenous depresion) and needs help from doctors, but she refused it more times, because taking pills from psychiatrist is for them untrust towards God. I am afraid, that she will comit suicide one day. She told me she had been praing for her death. I think we will met up one day by chance, because God prepared it. On that day I will expose her the catholic teaching in details and why the arguments from that sect against THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ARE TOTALLY FALSE. That is the main reason, why I study catholic theology in details, because I love her and I do not want she end up in hell. Invincible ignorance may help her but who knows. I currently read not by faith alone by Bob Sungenis
 
I have read plenty of books by Scott Hahn. He is totally biblical.
 
Prayers for your girlfriend that she gets professional help, and is protected by our Lord.
 
Are these Protestant friends interested in being lectured? I would expect such lectures to have a success rate of about zero percent.

Be sure to develop a full Catholic understanding of free will. We must come to our faith because we want it.

As for the quotes around the word “churches”, I agree it is snarky and not a good approach. Jesus set an example of meeting people where they are and we should do the same. Whatever faith anyone believes, they think it is correct. Offending them right off the bat will not lead to their conversion.
 
The Catechism.

Seven Lies About Catholic History, Diane Moczar.

These are two good starting points to learn some arguments.
 
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If you have not already been validly baptised, then I baptise you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.”
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All baptisms are valid said in trinitarian formula.

You (Q55) must have been in a very odd cult, citing it as 'Protestant", for it not to be in said wording.
 
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They claimed to be protestants. I got there per an Lutheran minister. The local Lutheran church cooperates with that sect.
 
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They claimed to be protestants. I got there per an Lutheran minister. The local Lutheran church cooperates with that sect.
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Lol…now that leads to more questions.

Like you just happen to know a Lutheran minister, who told you to get baptized in a church down the street ( who might have been anti trinitarians) ?

But thank you for responding.
 
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It was grounded in Swiss. I am a Slovak. They have a great house with great lands in small village near an slovakian town. In our country it is called Prameň na Súši free translated as The spring in a dust. We worked on their lands without payment of wage. We slept in tents. All what they cooked was bad. Here is in German about their https://www.guetli-rossau.ch/
Normally you cannot fall in love with woman there. The only mean is to write a letter to a unknown woman. When her response is positive, then you two will marry. Having been maried you can fall in low with your wife. Woman have to wear only long rocks outside the congregation too and in winter too. When I got acquianted there with my ex-girfriend they noticed we had been too much alone together and sent me home. They consider emotions such as love to be from devil.
 
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My catholic priest told me, that the luteran minister was not a good man, because he led me there and he as theologian He should have known they are at least strange. Ironically he obtained degree for work on Jehovas Witnesses . Surprisingly he had been there only few times. Probably he realised something was not OK there.But he did not say a word about that, when preaching. In that town near the village there were three Lutheran ministers. The first albeit cooperated with them, told the young adults not to go there, because they are sectarians. The second was fervent with cooperation with them. On the Internet I have found, he was too bad man and the sectarians were his only supporters in his pharish. The third current is manipulated by them.
 
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When I said prayers for your girlfriend I meant I will pray for her. What to pray for? Go with your heart (and mind) what is ailing her spiritually and physically, take care yourself.
 
I’ve read an article about the sect. It seems like they want to provide a retreat from the modern society, offering simple living and farming instead. And they also write something about using the “interpretation principles of the reformation” and supposedly being on good terms with local protestant parishes.

Actually, they strictly follow a deformed version of Old Testament moral code. Dangerous stuff indeed. It clearly smells of sectarianism once you read something other about them than their own advertisement. It seems like they prey on good protestants who strive for holliness and then feed them with dangerous nonsense. I feel sorry for the pastors who don’t see through this, they should know better than read a few words on a website.

I am happy you found safe home within the Catholic Church! I will pray for your girlfriend to come to her senses, and follow you there as well.
 
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My catholic priest told me, that the luteran minister was not a good man, because he led me there and he as theologian He should have known they are at least strange. Ironically he obtained degree for work on Jehovas Witnesses .
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I don’t know him as a man, but based on no other info than what you’ve presented, it appears that your priest is right: theologically the Lutheran pastor acted outside the confessions.
Jehovahs Witnesses are not Trinitarian Christians and thereby not Protestant.
 
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