Exposition of the Creche during Christmas

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What is the proper to expose the creche during Christmas…My thinking is that the creche should be in or around the altar area.
Our creche was set in the chapel off the main altar. We were asked to make a pilmigrage to the creche…I’m open for thoughts on this.

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What is the proper to expose the creche during Christmas…My thinking is that the creche should be in or around the altar area.
Our creche was set in the chapel off the main altar. We were asked to make a pilmigrage to the creche…I’m open for thoughts on this.

thank you
voice in the dessert
This could depend, among other things, on how big the Nativity scene is and how much free space there is near the altar. A really big Nativity scene that would dominate the sanctuary, block people’s view of the altar or tabernacle, or restrict necessary movement in the sanctuary area should not be placed near the altar.

Also, a nativity scene incorporating live animals (I’ve seen a few) should not be inside the church (which, unfortunately, I’ve seen done too.)
 
What is the proper to expose the creche during Christmas…My thinking is that the creche should be in or around the altar area.
Our creche was set in the chapel off the main altar. We were asked to make a pilmigrage to the creche…I’m open for thoughts on this.

thank you
voice in the dessert
It should not be in the sanctuary area. In the gathering space or off to the side as you describe is fine. Jesus should not be present until midnight Christmas eve and the wise “guys” arrive on Epiphany.
 
I was hoping this wasn’t going to be complicated…I have been a member of this parish for 37 years and this is the first time on Christmas day…that the infant Jesus wasn’t near the Altar for all to see…The Altar is big enough and the Nativity scene
would not dominate the sanctuary, block people’s view of the altar or tabernacle, or restrict necessary movement in the sanctuary.
I am sorry to say this another form of abuse and part of the New North American Catholic Church that has been formulating quietly over the years…I am open for suggestions how to resolve this.
 
What is the proper to expose the creche during Christmas…My thinking is that the creche should be in or around the altar area.
Our creche was set in the chapel off the main altar. We were asked to make a pilmigrage to the creche…I’m open for thoughts on this.

thank you
voice in the dessert
I don’t know why you would use the word “exposition” which in the liturgical context refers only the Blessed Sacrament. Since the creche is not a liturgical necessity in the first instance, there are not any rules other than the general norms for what may be in the sanctuary. It seems rather obvious that it should be located in a place convenient for people to see it, to come close and meditate on the mystery of the nativity, the Holy Family, and venerate the Christ Child, whereever that place may be in a particular church. There are probably good arguements for not having it in the sanctuary if it would impede the ministers during Mass, distract people from the Eucharist, etc.
 
I don’t know why you would use the word “exposition” which in the liturgical context refers only the Blessed Sacrament. Since the creche is not a liturgical necessity in the first instance, there are not any rules other than the general norms for what may be in the sanctuary. It seems rather obvious that it should be located in a place convenient for people to see it, to come close and meditate on the mystery of the nativity, the Holy Family, and venerate the Christ Child, whereever that place may be in a particular church. There are probably good arguements for not having it in the sanctuary if it would impede the ministers during Mass, distract people from the Eucharist, etc.
This is precisely why when my PV served as our cathedral’s first rector, he moved the creche to the back chapel of the cathedral. It was much more spacious and it was beautiful. Because we had to have the necessary space for the cantor and altar servers, along with the placement of the temporary catherda (after seven years, we still don’t have a permanent one:confused: ) and seating for the rector and deacon, it was much better to move the creche to the back.

At my Dad’s parish, the sanctuary is not very big (church was built in 1897). Unfortunately, when you put the creche in a space that small (along with two big artificial trees :eek: and lots of poinettias), there’s not enough room for anybody. The flutist and the cantor barely fit and the lector had to stand next to the flutist while the cantor sang the psalm (it was horrible, by the way; the psalm was set to “Go Tell it On the Mountain” and it sounded awful, that, and the fact that the pastor, who has an STD in liturgy and loves to brag about having concelebrated Mass with JPII, took it upon himself to replace the “Gloria” with "Hark, the Herald Angels Sing, made it even worse).

To disimo, save your ammo for a bona fide liturgical abuse, because even St. Peter’s Basilica doesn’t have the creche set up in the sanctuary. It is placed in one of the side chapels. Perhaps, next year, you may want to set up the Book of the Gospels in a prominent place and then right below it, place the statue of the Infant Jesus. They had that kind of a set up at St. Peter’s Basilica. After Midnight Mass, your pastor can then process to the location of the creche and place the Christ Child there. That’s what Pope Benedict XVI did after Midnight Mass. It was beautiful.
 
Let’s not get to technical brother christians…Thank you benedictgal for answering my question…I also watched the Midnight Mass and noticed the infant Jesus was present on the altar…I could have accepted that at our parish. Strap in fellow christians…and get ready for the New North American Catholic Church, it finally arrived while we were sleeping living the culture of death…you are right beneditgal …we will need our ammo for greater battles…God Bless.
 
It should not be in the sanctuary area. In the gathering space or off to the side as you describe is fine. Jesus should not be present until midnight Christmas eve and the wise “guys” arrive on Epiphany.
Something I like in my parish-- the Magi are placed on the other side of the gathering space among some potted plants until Epiphany. And there are four of them. Almost every year some supposedly Bible-knowledgeable visitor from another faith tradition wants to know why we have four wise men when everyone knows there were three. Teaching moment.

JSA+
 
I personally believe a side altar area/side chapel should be used. If there is no side altar or chapel then somewherr near the santuary is okay.

I do not really like the nativity being under the altar as is the case in some places.
 
To disimo, save your ammo for a bona fide liturgical abuse, because even St. Peter’s Basilica doesn’t have the creche set up in the sanctuary. It is placed in one of the side chapels. Perhaps, next year, you may want to set up the Book of the Gospels in a prominent place and then right below it, place the statue of the Infant Jesus. They had that kind of a set up at St. Peter’s Basilica. After Midnight Mass, your pastor can then process to the location of the creche and place the Christ Child there. That’s what Pope Benedict XVI did after Midnight Mass. It was beautiful.
the pilgrimage to the creche which the Pope led is the perfect illustration, I think, of what the pastor in OP’s situation was trying to achieve. very beautiful, very liturgically correct, and b the way, it was AFTER Mass, not before
 
While driving home this evening (from picking up a pizza), I saw that the neighborhood parish had a huge nativity scene up (life-sized down to the animals). It was rather nice (although the Magi shouldn’t have been up yet, and, I was a little concerned that one of them wore a real -and quite beautiful-cope - which, the parish should have saved for an actual liturgical use:confused: ).

What freaked me out was what was on the other side of the church. The parish had a Christmas tree up (no problem); however, next to the Christmas tree was an animated Santa Claus (life-sized) seated on an easy chair, waving his arm. :eek: :eek: :eek: I thought that it was the most bizarre thing I had ever seen.

If Santa had been dressed up like the real St. Nicholas, it would have been okay. But Santa Claus in Church?:eek: I am very happy that even though my house falls under the territorial jurisdiction of this parish, I don’t go there (the Charismatics in the parish turned my parents off over 30 years ago and my dad chose to remain in his childhood parish).
 
I personally believe a side altar area/side chapel should be used. If there is no side altar or chapel then somewherr near the santuary is okay.

I do not really like the nativity being under the altar as is the case in some places.
I agree, primarily because the creche offers such a wonderful opportunity for teaching moments with young children. Taking a wee one to the manger, telling him or her who it is we are seeing and why we are celebrating the birth of this child is often better handled off to the side.
 
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