Extra Books in Catholic Bibles

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MichaelP3 said:
It tends to happen when you have an entire Conservative Catholic (The nice non-judging kind) family in law. My father in law, a very smart guy, I had to answer some interesting questions. In this instance one would tend not to want to sound “uninformative”.
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You must enjoy being on CAF. 🙂
 
IGotQuestions said:
Why is the Catholic Bible larger than Protestant Bibles?
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  1. Because it was {IS] Catholics who birthed today’s bible
It WAS the 1st Catholics {Christians] who through MUCH debate CHOOSE guided by the HS [about 1,600 YEARS before the KJB came into existence]

It was Catholics {no other Christian faith was to exist for 500-1,000 YEARS …the Easter schisms} who AUTHORED the entire NT

It was this SAME RCC that set the Original Canon of the Bible; again God Inspired {2nd Tim 3:16-17}, at 73 books
  1. The Original Christian bible was the CATHOLIC Bible, that Luther used as the guidepost {such as it was for him} to create the KJB, that he, Luther CHOOSE to remove 7 books form and they competed with what he Luther choose to believe in his NEW Faith, designed to replace Catholicism.{He would also have liked to deleted the epistle of JAMES> but was persuaded not too.
ALL of which is historically provable.

Thanks for asking

God Bless you
 
MikeFr said:
There is a phrase in Tobit that talks about almsgiving in a way some protestants didn’t like:

Tobit 4:10 For almsgiving delivers from death and saves people from passing down to darkness.

I’ve “heard” that was a factor, but admit it is a bit of nitpicking.

I’ve also heard that neither Jesus nor the apostles ever quoted from the OT apocyrpha given as a reason why it was removed. Not sure if that is true.

Another reason I’ve heard is that the OT apocrypah isn’t in the Masoretic text. Not sure that is true either.

Just reasons I’ve heard on occasion. Sorry I haven’t read all previous posts to see if these have been raised already.
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Guess they had a problem with Proverbs 10:2 as well… but forgot to take it out: “The storehouses of an evildoer will not help him, but charity will save from death.” See also Proverbs 11:4.

You are correct that the Apocrypha are not in the Masoretic text.
 
PJM said:
  1. Because it was {IS] Catholics who birthed today’s bible
It WAS the 1st Catholics {Christians] who through MUCH debate CHOOSE guided by the HS [about 1,600 YEARS before the KJB came into existence]

It was Catholics {no other Christian faith was to exist for 500-1,000 YEARS …the Easter schisms} who AUTHORED the entire NT

It was this SAME RCC that set the Original Canon of the Bible; again God Inspired {2nd Tim 3:16-17}, at 73 books
  1. The Original Christian bible was the CATHOLIC Bible, that Luther used as the guidepost {such as it was for him} to create the KJB, that he, Luther CHOOSE to remove 7 books form and they competed with what he Luther choose to believe in his NEW Faith, designed to replace Catholicism.{He would also have liked to deleted the epistle of JAMES> but was persuaded not too.
ALL of which is historically provable.

Thanks for asking

God Bless you
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Hi Pat,
Regarding #2. Luther didn’t create the King James Bible. First, he was not an English speaker, so an English bible would have been of no use to him. Second, Luther died in 1546, while the first KJV came out in 1611.
Finally, neither Luther’s German translation nor the 1611 KJV excluded the DC books.

Jon
 
What books were in the Mental Bible, and how much resistance/suppose did it receive by the Church?
 
JonNC said:
Hi Pat,
Regarding #2. Luther didn’t create the King James Bible. First, he was not an English speaker, so an English bible would have been of no use to him. Second, Luther died in 1546, while the first KJV came out in 1611.
Finally, neither Luther’s German translation nor the 1611 KJV excluded the DC books.

Jon
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THANKS Jon!

Looks like I need to revisit that issues research

God Bless you

Pat
 
So…I’m just going to point out that Ethiopian Jews DO use the Deuterocanon. There really isn’t a single Jewish canon.
 
JonNC said:
I agree. Then again, some might argue that there are no extra books in an Orthodox bible, and others might argue that Luther’s 74 book bible has no extra books.

Jon
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Why do you not believe God has settled arguements? I would think that anyone who relies on SS would necessarily believe that God did settle the matter, and in a manner that is lawful and able to be understood by all.
 
rcwitness said:
Why do you not believe God has settled arguements? I would think that anyone who relies on SS would necessarily believe that God did settle the matter, and in a manner that is lawful and able to be understood by all.
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I do. So, which one? And by what definition of “canon”?
 
JonNC said:
I do. So, which one? And by what definition of “canon”?
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The one approved of by the Council of Trent (having the approval of the Bishop of Rome and the college of Bishops in communion with him), which relied on the early Synods during the period of fixing a canon.
 
adamhovey1988 said:
So…I’m just going to point out that Ethiopian Jews DO use the Deuterocanon. There really isn’t a single Jewish canon.
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Well, there is actually for Rabbinic (i.e. mainstream) Judaism. The Talmud says there are 24 books of Scripture, and lists them.
 
rcwitness said:
The one approved of by the Council of Trent (having the approval of the Bishop of Rome and the college of Bishops in communion with him), which relied on the early Synods during the period of fixing a canon.
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And for this in communion with the Bishop of Rome, that canon is authoritative.
 
JonNC said:
And for this in communion with the Bishop of Rome, that canon is authoritative.
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Yes, and that is how, we believe, that God settled the argument over the books. This seems consistent with our Tradition, that Rome has been entrusted the prime episcopacy from Peter, which is able to Confirm the faithful authoritivley (under lawful conditions).

How do others have confidence that God has Confirmed their canon?
 
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