"extra-ordinary" ministries

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It is my understanding that the ordinary ministries of lector and acolyte are supposed to be used when available. Only when one is not available are extra-ordinary readers and Eucharistic ministers supposed to be used. But in most dioceses, this is not the case. Could anyone help me out here?
 
It is my understanding that the ordinary ministries of lector and acolyte are supposed to be used when available. Only when one is not available are extra-ordinary readers and Eucharistic ministers supposed to be used. But in most dioceses, this is not the case. Could anyone help me out here?
Your understanding is correct. The problem is that the ordinary ministers are usually not available. Although this was not the intention, the result of the change (from subdeacons and other ordained clerics to instituted laity) was/is that only seminarians are instituted to these ministries (with few exceptions).

Also, instituted acolytes are likewise extra-ordinary ministers of Holy Communion, and should only be employed if there is an insufficient number of priests/deacons to distribute.
 
Your understanding is correct. The problem is that the ordinary ministers are usually not available. Although this was not the intention, the result of the change (from subdeacons and other ordained clerics to instituted laity) was/is that only seminarians are instituted to these ministries (with few exceptions).

Also, instituted acolytes are likewise extra-ordinary ministers of Holy Communion, and should only be employed if there is an insufficient number of priests/deacons to distribute.
But why are only seminarians instituted by your bishop? Our diocese (Lincoln, NE) still institutes lay men to serve as acolytes and lectors, and furthermore does not allow Eucharistic ministers. But very few if any other diocese do this. Why not?
 
Good for the Diocese of Lincoln!

It’s not for nothing that there are minor orders (aka “instituted ministries”).

They should be more present in parishes. It’s not just priests, you know.
 
But why are only seminarians instituted by your bishop? Our diocese (Lincoln, NE) still institutes lay men to serve as acolytes and lectors, and furthermore does not allow Eucharistic ministers. But very few if any other diocese do this. Why not?
The diocese of Lincoln is the exception rather than the rule–and that’s unfortunate for the rest of us. Most dioceses in the US do not make these instituted ministries available except to seminarians.
 
The diocese of Lincoln is the exception rather than the rule–and that’s unfortunate for the rest of us. Most dioceses in the US do not make these instituted ministries available except to seminarians.
Are men in formation for the permanent diaconate also instituted as lectors and acolytes before their ordinations?
 
Can. 1035 §1. Before anyone is promoted to the permanent or transitional diaconate, he is required to have received the ministries of lector and acolyte and to have exercised them for a suitable period of time.

§2. There is to be an interval of at least six months between the conferral of the ministry of acolyte and the diaconate.
 
Whatever happened to the request from the Synod of Bishops to allow women to be instituted lectors?
 
This whole situation has had so many inintended consequences.

One part which I find particularly disturbing and puzzling as well is the following:

A candidate for the seminary will almost always be asked the question, “are you a lector or acolyte at your home parish?” No matter how it’s phrased, the question will be asked. And of course, it’s expected that he will answer in the affirmative.

Depending upon which seminary (or diocese formation program) seminarians are often expected not to be lectors and acolytes either at the seminary itself, or even at their home parishes.

So, here’s a summary of what happens in the formation of seminarians:

They perform a function before they become seminarians

They join the seminary, and are then told they can’t do it anymore

They come home for holiday breaks, and they are told that either they are expected to perform the function because they are seminarians,
…or…
they are told that they cannot perform the function because they haven’t been instituted, but have to step aside in favor of someone else who is not a seminarian, and has no intention of ever becoming one, and has sometimes gone through no more formation than a signup sheet in the back of the church after Mass.

Then they’re instituted to perform the function that they used to perform before they became seminarians

They spend a few months at the seminary, being Instituted Lectors and Acolytes, for the benefit of their classmates (who will most likely never have Instituted Lectors and Acolytes at their parishes after they’re ordained priests and sent out into the real world) and perhaps a few Sundays at a parish. At the parish they’re likely to be told not to function as Lectors and Acolytes because that would interfere with the parish schedules, and would offend people who would accuse them of “clericalism” and of interfering in the “ministry of the laity” of the parish who expect to be readers & acolytes.

Then they’re ordained deacons, and they are no longer Instituted Lectors and Acolytes, and they scratch their heads and ask themselves why they even bothered to be Instituted in the first place, except to satisfy a canon which says that they could not have been ordained unless they were first Instituted.

Finally, they are ordained priests, and never again experience an Instituted Lector or Acolyte except for the occasional visit to the seminary, or perhaps the Chrism Mass at the Cathedral, or just maybe a visiting seminarian who happens to have been Instituted.

Am I missing anything here? Am I the only one reaching for the aspirin at this point???
 
It is my understanding that the ordinary ministries of lector and acolyte are supposed to be used when available. Only when one is not available are extra-ordinary readers and Eucharistic ministers supposed to be used. But in most dioceses, this is not the case. Could anyone help me out here?
Well, I would hope that a Eucharistic Minister is present at every Mass. I know that you are new and I welcome you to our CAF family. However, just one point to consider: We need to use the language that the Church uses when defining just who does what.

The Eucharistic Minister is the priest and bishop. Only they can confect (cause to happen), the Holy Eucharist. The deacon, by virtue of his reception of Holy Orders, is one of the Ordinary Ministers of Holy Communion (along with the priest and the deacon). Laity who assist in the distribution of Holy Communion are called Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion.

Your initial observation is right on target. EMHCs are supposed to be the exception, rather than the rule. This is what Redemptionis Sacramentum has to say:
[156.] This function is to be understood strictly according to the name by which it is known, that is to say, that of extraordinary minister of Holy Communion, and not “special minister of Holy Communion” nor “extraordinary minister of the Eucharist” nor “special minister of the Eucharist”, by which names the meaning of this function is unnecessarily and improperly broadened.
[157.] If there is usually present a sufficient number of sacred ministers for the distribution of Holy Communion, extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion may not be appointed. Indeed, in such circumstances, those who may have already been appointed to this ministry should not exercise it. The practice of those Priests is reprobated who, even though present at the celebration, abstain from distributing Communion and hand this function over to laypersons.258
[158.] Indeed, the extraordinary minister of Holy Communion may administer Communion only when the Priest and Deacon are lacking, when the Priest is prevented by weakness or advanced age or some other genuine reason, or when the number of faithful coming to Communion is so great that the very celebration of Mass would be unduly prolonged.259 This, however, is to be understood in such a way that a brief prolongation, considering the circumstances and culture of the place, is not at all a sufficient reason.
I hope this reference helps.
 
But why are only seminarians instituted by your bishop? Our diocese (Lincoln, NE) still institutes lay men to serve as acolytes and lectors, and furthermore does not allow Eucharistic ministers. But very few if any other diocese do this. Why not?
Probably because unless the institution is prefaced by some serious formation (measured in years) there is absolutely no advantage to instituting versus commisioning except I suppose when it comes to being able to purify sacred vessels by acolytes…
 
Probably because unless the institution is prefaced by some serious formation (measured in years) there is absolutely no advantage to instituting versus commisioning except I suppose when it comes to being able to purify sacred vessels by acolytes…
The “advantage” is the very real value of having a ministry and a minister which is “ordinary” rather than “extra-ordinary”; and I believe that’s one of the main points of this discussion. Catholics today have become so accustomed to “extraordinary ministers” of everything that they have lost perspective. “Instituting” or even “ordaining” is becoming nothing more than a nice ceremony, and many have lost sight of the fact that these ceremonies truly mean something very deep and spiritual (and dare I say it, even ontological?)
 
Well, I would hope that a Eucharistic Minister is present at every Mass. I know that you are new and I welcome you to our CAF family. However, just one point to consider: We need to use the language that the Church uses when defining just who does what.

The Eucharistic Minister is the priest and bishop. Only they can confect (cause to happen), the Holy Eucharist. The deacon, by virtue of his reception of Holy Orders, is one of the Ordinary Ministers of Holy Communion (along with the priest and the deacon). Laity who assist in the distribution of Holy Communion are called Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion.

Your initial observation is right on target. EMHCs are supposed to be the exception, rather than the rule.
Sorry for the mistake. I meant “extra-ordinary”, but they are commonly refered to (wrongly) as “Eucharistic Ministers”. But your point is well taken.

My point of the discussion is that when I go back to the diocese I grew up in (Salina, KS), it is very disconcerting to see women get up and read the the Mass readings like they were reading a bed-time story (emphatic overemphasis). At Communion, a herd of 8-10 “Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion” go up to the altar to distribute under both species every Sunday. And if that’s not bad enough, women are trying to bless the children too young to receive communion, as if they were priests. Silliness.
 
…And if that’s not bad enough, women are trying to bless the children too young to receive communion, as if they were priests. Silliness.
It is not just women, some men love to do the same thing too. Last Sunday I was serving as an EMHC and one guy looked at me in a nasty way because when he approached me with his arms crossed over his chest I simple looked at him and without any movement of my hands I said “Receive the Spirit of Jesus Christ in your heart”. He did not like that a bit.

Another time some guy looked mad at me because I did not allow him to use the cup for intinction.

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