Extreme Chastity

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Why would it be useless for a woman? Women have sexual feelings too. 😉
yes…

you know, this is something i regret so much in my life, it’s so embarrassing it’s hard to say it, but i have to because i can’t keep it to myself 😦

so when i was still a teen i read a verse about testing yourself. it’s in I Corinthians 11:28 “Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup.”

In English, it says ‘examine’, but in my language I think it translates into ‘test’.

So there I went testing myself… one day I try to test my eye… as I walk past my neighbor’s house, I saw the man sitting there, so I glanced my eyes toward the man… he looked at me as well… (he’s a married man, I think he think I’m just a kid trying to kid around. which I hope it’s like that 😦 ) he didn’t say anything anyway, I hope he forgot about that already. then I turned so awkward I’m so embarrassed of myself I can’t forget about that. i’m already socially awkward now i’m even more awkward. suddenly Matthew 5:29 came into my head :crying: :banghead:

Then I curse myself stupid. (did I sin twice? 😦 )

Can we pray it off of me? 😦

I’m sorry I disturbed your thread, I’m sooo sorry.
 
yes…

you know, this is something i regret so much in my life, it’s so embarrassing it’s hard to say it, but i have to because i can’t keep it to myself 😦

so when i was still a teen i read a verse about testing yourself. it’s in I Corinthians 11:28 “Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup.”

In English, it says ‘examine’, but in my language I think it translates into ‘test’.

So there I went testing myself… one day I try to test my eye… as I walk past my neighbor’s house, I saw the man sitting there, so I glanced my eyes toward the man… he looked at me as well… (he’s a married man, I think he think I’m just a kid trying to kid around. which I hope it’s like that 😦 ) he didn’t say anything anyway, I hope he forgot about that already. then I turned so awkward I’m so embarrassed of myself I can’t forget about that. i’m already socially awkward now i’m even more awkward. suddenly Matthew 5:29 came into my head :crying: :banghead:

Then I curse myself stupid. (did I sin twice? 😦 )

Can we pray it off of me? 😦

I’m sorry I disturbed your thread, I’m sooo sorry.
From what you just described, these sins are venial. Are you still a teenager? It sounds as if you are struggling with some juvenile emotions.
 
From what you just described, these sins are venial. Are you still a teenager? It sounds as if you are struggling with some juvenile emotions.
well, let’s say my soul is still trapped by my sins :eek: 😊 😦
 
Why would it be useless for a woman? Women have sexual feelings too. 😉
Well true, but it was directed at men dealing with women dressing immodestly, not as big of a problem for women.
 
Many men walk around shirtless in the summer though…
True. But understand its hard for me to identify with a woman on that being immodest,. Shirtless men never evoke lust from me, so i suppose i overlook that they might from a woman.
 
Look at this, I found a link to it on facebook. I shared it. Then as I read more, I had to share it here. This is brilliant. By the way this article is for men, and would be pretty useless for a woman.
catholicgentleman.net/2014/06/custody-of-the-eyes-what-it-is-and-how-to-practice-it/
Excellent article, and the reason it’s intended for men is that it seems like there’s so much material out there directed towards the women to dress more modestly, but very little (if any) emphasis on teaching young men to be respectful of their own faith. That’s why it would be useless for women - it’s like there’s no shortage of pro-modesty stuff for the women, but very few resources intended for the men. If that article were required reading - for men - at high schools and college campuses around the country, on-campus rapes and assaults would be practically non-existent.
 
True. But understand its hard for me to identify with a woman on that being immodest,. Shirtless men never evoke lust from me, so i suppose i overlook that they might from a woman.
Well, I’m guessing you wouldn’t be OK with shirtless women roaming the streets, so I don’t see why it should be hard to imagine that the opposite causes problems for some women. 🤷
If that article were required reading - for men - at high schools and college campuses around the country, on-campus rapes and assaults would be practically non-existent.
I wouldn’t go THAT far- people will still sin even when they know that they’re sinning, after all. It is a good article, though. 👍
 
. If that article were required reading - for men - at high schools and college campuses around the country, on-campus rapes and assaults would be practically non-existent.
This statement has left me absolutely astonished, and not in a good way. This is a Catholic forum, which means we are supposed to embody Christ like virtues. Your highly offensive statement above suggests that on-campus rapes and assaults are all to do with what the victim wears, and thus men’s uncontrollable lust. Furthermore, you are extolling the virtues of blaming the victim. That mentality is akin to, “Well I couldn’t help cheating on my wife. The hot woman came onto me and I hadn’t had sex in a week”. It completely takes away the man’s responsibility to look after his own sexual morality.

If uncontrollable lust is an issue, there are ways to deal with it without resorting to raping women.

May I remind you that the following categories of people have been raped:
Muslim women dressed in full burquas
Nuns in full shroud
Men
Babies
Children
Old people wearing extremely modest clothing

Should these people have adjusted their clothing somehow?

This great paragraph by Trudy over at Gradient Lair sums it up well:

*“Don’t dress sexy” ignores the reality that rapists do not care what a woman is wearing. Rape is not about fashion cues. Rape is not about men’s “normal” sexual urges but is socialized as the “right” of men to do to women (and men) who violate arbitrary and shifting patriarchal ideals and as a way to reclaim power and punish. It’s socially sanctioned terrorism. Most men are not taught that committing rape is wrong but that any woman who is raped must have violated some unwritten “rule.” Men rape women in long gowns, medical scrubs, jeans, T-shirts, old clothes, dirty clothes. Men rape homeless women in tattered clothes. Men rape women in business suits. Men rape their own daughters while their daughters are wearing the clothes that they bought for their own daughters. The persistent and ignorant lie that all women who are raped all wore “mini skirts” and that “mini skirts” are consent is rape culture.

Most of all, this “advice” is about “strangers” and socializing. People are being willfully ignorant about the fact that most rapes do not occur at parties and do not only happen to co-eds. Many women are raped by someone they know and in their own home. "*
 
This statement has left me absolutely astonished, and not in a good way. This is a Catholic forum, which means we are supposed to embody Christ like virtues. Your highly offensive statement above suggests that on-campus rapes and assaults are all to do with what the victim wears, and thus men’s uncontrollable lust. Furthermore, you are extolling the virtues of blaming the victim. That mentality is akin to, “Well I couldn’t help cheating on my wife. The hot woman came onto me and I hadn’t had sex in a week”. It completely takes away the man’s responsibility to look after his own sexual morality.
We are in complete agreement. I’m not extolling the virtues of “blaming the victim” at all - quite the opposite - and I’m not sure how you arrived at that conclusion at all. 🤷

Why is it offensive to expect men (I’m a man) to control their lust? Let me repeat what I said: If that article - the article that helps to instruct men to control their lust - were required reading on high school and college campuses, on-campus rapes and assaults would be practically non-existent. I stand by that sentiment.
 
We are in complete agreement. I’m not extolling the virtues of “blaming the victim” at all - quite the opposite - and I’m not sure how you arrived at that conclusion at all. 🤷

Why is it offensive to expect men (I’m a man) to control their lust? Let me repeat what I said: If that article - the article that helps to instruct men to control their lust - were required reading on high school and college campuses, on-campus rapes and assaults would be practically non-existent. I stand by that sentiment.
And your right. This article does not say that women should change, its not for women as ive said before. This article is for men, I agree with your original statement.
 
We are in complete agreement. I’m not extolling the virtues of “blaming the victim” at all - quite the opposite - and I’m not sure how you arrived at that conclusion at all. 🤷

Why is it offensive to expect men (I’m a man) to control their lust? Let me repeat what I said: If that article - the article that helps to instruct men to control their lust - were required reading on high school and college campuses, on-campus rapes and assaults would be practically non-existent. I stand by that sentiment.
Because I thought you said that rape was caused by what women wear. The inference is that if a woman dresses in a way men find sexy, then men will have to work to control their lust and not rape a woman. Whereas I am saying that rape is not caused by sexual desire. There are plenty of consenting women willing to have a mutual and consensual sexual relationship. So rape is about more than sexual desire, men’s lust and women’s colthing. That is my point.
 
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