Extreme poverty needs to be eradicated from the face of the planet!

[dshix]

I do not let myself get insulted by Robert Sock anymore, nor do I bother to argue with him once he has passed a certain point of illogic, simply because it must be plain to everyone in the thread how faulty his position is.

He’s like a very loud radio that that doesn’t stop repeating the same thing no matter how many times you disprove it.

At a certain point I just give up, because no matter how plainly I state something, he still manages to find a way to twist my words into something else, or, if he can’t do that, he’ll introduce a red herring or strawman.

If it seems the conversation has become interesting again (that is, we’ve stopped repeating the same arguments over and over) then I’ll join in once more.

 

[Jozefo]

You are not alone…I feel just like you. Let us pray, pray, pray and wait in hope for the day…

Thank you brother, I needed to hear that.

 

[Robert_Sock]

Wow, Robert either you honestly completely misunderstood that person or you are intentionally trying to mislead. It does not take a genius to know that person was not referring to poor people. That was in response to your comment that anyone who didn’t want to work wouldn’t have to work and would get free housing and food given to them. Any person who chooses not to work when they can in order to just be taken care of for free is a “lazy bum”. That person was not saying that people who are poor and homeless are lazy bums.

Reread the post of mine that he was referring to and show me where his statement was in reference to people who refuse to work! Let the interested reader read my posts and decide for themselves.

Here are my posts:

Yes, another thread, but you need not look or post unless you’re truly interested.

So let us throw our hands up in the air and condone extreme poverty, and the crime against humanity that it entails.

And since there will always be suffering in the world, perhaps we should do away with all medical research too.

 

[Robert_Sock]

I do not let myself get insulted by Robert Sock anymore, nor do I bother to argue with him once he has passed a certain point of illogic, simply because it must be plain to everyone in the thread how faulty his position is.

He’s like a very loud radio that that doesn’t stop repeating the same thing no matter how many times you disprove it.

At a certain point I just give up, because no matter how plainly I state something, he still manages to find a way to twist my words into something else, or, if he can’t do that, he’ll introduce a red herring or strawman.

If it seems the conversation has become interesting again (that is, we’ve stopped repeating the same arguments over and over) then I’ll join in once more.

Stating that extreme poverty is a crime against humanity is a faulty position? Stating that extreme poverty needs to be eradicated from the face of the planet is a faulty position? Please explain how?

 

[Jozefo]

Stating that extreme poverty is a crime against humanity is a faulty position? Stating that extreme poverty needs to be eradicated from the face of the planet is a faulty position? Please explain how?

As I’ve been saying, I think everyone agrees with those statements by themselves. The bone of contention is how to fix it.

 

[openmind77]

I don’t think anyone disagrees that it would be wonderful if extreme poverty didn’t exist. The problem is that you want to provide a system where people can choose to do nothing and they will get free stuff and this is wrong. They should have to work. Now you can provide housing and food, the basics, to those who are willing to work. Jobs could be created like maybe road repair or community cleaning where people go around cleaning up neighborhoods and such. That’s something I could get behind.

You are quite right - everyone should be required to work (as long as they are able and not disabled). But the work should be appropriate to their education - an unemployed PhD should not be asked to do road repair (he can become a teacher instead). However, I don’t think any private entity can organize such a system. So it is up to the government (could be the local one) which has to do it.

 

[april32010]

thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/02/7873/

“I had no job, and you overtaxed the man who might have given me one. Then you gave the job to someone on the other side of the world, or you winked while men left their families thousands of miles away, crossing the border to work at low wages, and you yourselves hired them, and ducked the taxes that you yourselves established. In this way you managed to do mayhem to two families at once.

 

[tabycat]

I do not let myself get insulted by Robert Sock anymore, nor do I bother to argue with him once he has passed a certain point of illogic, simply because it must be plain to everyone in the thread how faulty his position is.

He’s like a very loud radio that that doesn’t stop repeating the same thing no matter how many times you disprove it.

At a certain point I just give up, because no matter how plainly I state something, he still manages to find a way to twist my words into something else, or, if he can’t do that, he’ll introduce a red herring or strawman.

If it seems the conversation has become interesting again (that is, we’ve stopped repeating the same arguments over and over) then I’ll join in once more.

 

[tabycat]

As I’ve been saying, I think everyone agrees with those statements by themselves. The bone of contention is how to fix it.

I think that Robert is not capable of seeing the difference of the statements and how to fix it,

 

[Jozefo]

I think that Robert is not capable of seeing the difference of the statements and how to fix it,

Yeah, we all have our idiosynchrasies. I only wish people would take my point of view. Everything would just click into place! (I’m being facetious, in case someone misunderstands.)

 

[Robert_Sock]

I think that Robert is not capable of seeing the difference of the statements and how to fix it,

Why don’t you and Abu explicitly acknowledge them then? Then would I feel compelled not to mention them.