Faith almost obliterated

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I come to ask to please pray for me and please give me advice on what to do. last Monday, my friend (lets call him J) whom I’ve been friends since High School, recommended me to go to the CARM and gotquestions websites (I did not know that he is a Fundamental Baptist at the time) to what he said "explains the true doctrine of the Catholic faith. I thought those were good websites to explore the faith until I saw their hate filled positions against the non-Christians and especially us, the Catholics. Those positions (esp the statue worshiping, pagan, anti pope and Whore of Babylon parts) literally made me sick to the point that I had a fever, flu like symptoms and a huge emptiness in my soul, almost as if I have died from the inside. I could not attend my college classes for 2 days (1st day I went to the doctor to see if I was sick, he said I was healthy and 2nd day I was too sick to drive to college) and not even the announcement of the new pope made me feel better. On the night of the 2nd day, J called asking why I have not attended my college classes and I told him what he had done. All he then told me that it was my fault for believing in heresy and for being spiritually dead. I told him that I could not talk to him for some time and hanged up. Days have gone by and he hasn’t called nor do I feel the presence of Gods grace. Please help me and forgive me if I annoyed someone for the long text, but thank you for reading.
 
I come to ask to please pray for me and please give me advice on what to do. last Monday, my friend (lets call him J) whom I’ve been friends since High School, recommended me to go to the CARM and gotquestions websites (I did not know that he is a Fundamental Baptist at the time) to what he said "explains the true doctrine of the Catholic faith. I thought those were good websites to explore the faith until I saw their hate filled positions against the non-Christians and especially us, the Catholics. Those positions (esp the statue worshiping, pagan, anti pope and Whore of Babylon parts) literally made me sick to the point that I had a fever, flu like symptoms and a huge emptiness in my soul, almost as if I have died from the inside. I could not attend my college classes for 2 days (1st day I went to the doctor to see if I was sick, he said I was healthy and 2nd day I was too sick to drive to college) and not even the announcement of the new pope made me feel better. On the night of the 2nd day, J called asking why I have not attended my college classes and I told him what he had done. All he then told me that it was my fault for believing in heresy and for being spiritually dead. I told him that I could not talk to him for some time and hanged up. Days have gone by and he hasn’t called nor do I feel the presence of Gods grace. Please help me and forgive me if I annoyed someone for the long text, but thank you for reading.
You have come to the right place

its easy to get discouraged especially when reading anti-Catholic propaganda and I don’t suggest reading anti-Catholic things until your intelligently equipped to defend the doctrines and teachings we believe

First I would get a hold of your local Catholic bookstore, or barnes and nobles and get some books on apologetics. - also find a local catholic radio station or listen online - you can also listen to podcasts of Catholic Answers where people ask all sorts of questions and Catholic apologists answer with the truth

I would direct you to get this book asap

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I have it in my bathroom and it goes over just about everything and will equip you to know your Catholic faith in a way you have never before

and look up sources here on Catholic.com

also other GREAT sites for helping you stay Catholic is

www.scripturecatholic.com

and

www.staycatholic.com

you can also ask me or others any direct questions or open threads and we would Love to help guide you to the truth
 
Matthew Chapter 5
3“Blessed are the poor in spirit,*

for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.a

4* Blessed are they who mourn,b

for they will be comforted.

5* Blessed are the meek,c

for they will inherit the land.

6Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,*

for they will be satisfied.

7Blessed are the merciful,

for they will be shown mercy.d

8* Blessed are the clean of heart,e

for they will see God.

9Blessed are the peacemakers,

for they will be called children of God.

10Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,*

for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.f

11Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you [falsely] because of me.g 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven.h Thus they persecuted the prophets who were before you.*

You need to read these beatitudes to know how to deal with guy in this…Make your Father in heaven proud!

After giving these Jesus says:

13i “You are the salt of the earth. But if salt loses its taste, with what can it be seasoned? It is no longer good for anything but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.*

Salt can be used to make food taste good and to preserve…you must be REALLY salty (a good catholic!!) because…this guy deffinatley tastes something friend! Good for you!

Lastly remember what Jesus told His disciples: “If they persecute me…they will persecute you!”

God bless and stay strong!
Remember…faith isin’t sensing God…it has nothing to do with feelings at all! Faith and knowing God is an act of the will (Angels dont feel anything…how can they…they dont’ have bodies! But they love God with all their being! You think you can do better than angelic love…?)
 
His comments are coming from ignorance…so don’t let it make you sick. He is the one lacking…pity him, pray for him, help him see (when you’re ready…if you can’t …than turn him over to God).
 
I am a convert, and for years I had read what the rest of the world said about Catholics, and was repelled by it. Then I started to read what Catholics say about themselves, and saw the Light of the World!!!

You know how slander and gossip work in personal relationships - well that is what J is doing to your faith - slandering it with untruths.

Go read what the Faith says about itself, and your faith will be refreshed.
 
Gua, I feel your pain. A longstanding friendship I had was irreparably damaged by vitriolic anti-catholicism. Sometimes, it doesn’t matter what you say, evidence, history, logic - they won’t listen. Every time we spoke afterwards it was mixed with insults from my friend. The only thing I felt I could do was leave it to God, and limit contact…my kindness has a limit. I hope it works out better for you, but remember it’s not your fault, there’s no reason to feel anxiety.

Concerning the faith, remember Catholicism is a 2000 year old religion. It’s an absurdity that any offshoot 100-year old-ish denomination could claim Catholicism false when it steals its abridged Bible and theological concepts from it, then abuses the authority that prescribed them.
 
I come to ask to please pray for me and please give me advice on what to do. last Monday, my friend (lets call him J) whom I’ve been friends since High School, recommended me to go to the CARM and gotquestions websites (I did not know that he is a Fundamental Baptist at the time) to what he said "explains the true doctrine of the Catholic faith. I thought those were good websites to explore the faith until I saw their hate filled positions against the non-Christians and especially us, the Catholics. Those positions (esp the statue worshiping, pagan, anti pope and Whore of Babylon parts) literally made me sick to the point that I had a fever, flu like symptoms and a huge emptiness in my soul, almost as if I have died from the inside. I could not attend my college classes for 2 days (1st day I went to the doctor to see if I was sick, he said I was healthy and 2nd day I was too sick to drive to college) and not even the announcement of the new pope made me feel better. On the night of the 2nd day, J called asking why I have not attended my college classes and I told him what he had done. All he then told me that it was my fault for believing in heresy and for being spiritually dead. I told him that I could not talk to him for some time and hanged up. Days have gone by and he hasn’t called nor do I feel the presence of Gods grace. Please help me and forgive me if I annoyed someone for the long text, but thank you for reading.
Hello GuaCatholico,
first of all, I promise you that the Roman Catholic Church is not the Whore of Babylon. Neither is it the Beast mentioned in the Book of Revelation either and the pope is not the false prophet mentioned there.
Images first. Images can be very powerful. They can convey messages. when an image truthfully conveys Gods’ love towards mankind then it is no false image. It speaks the truth. A golden calf can’t speak of God’s love towards us. Using that as an example.
It is written that all things must fall under Christ’s feet. Things of the devil have fallen under Christ’s feet. December 25th for example. The devil doesn’t like it. He wants his saturnalia and all other things back. He can sit in the corner and weep. Jesus can have them.
The whore of Babylon. God called the Israelites out from among the Gentiles. A nation set apart. They were taken in to captivity for “whoring it up” They would flirt with the Gentiles. They were set apart to be a Holy Nation. The House of Israel rejected Christ and is today scattered among the Gentiles. The Whore of Babylon and is currently an Antichrist.
The Beast and the false prophet: Revelation 13 mentions a leopard a bear and a lion. Those thre Beasts get mentioned in the book of Daniel. There is also a fourth Beast called the Dreadful. The dreadful does not form a part of the beast mentioned in Revelation 13. The dreadful was the Roman Empire. Three cities are on seven hills. all thee claiming to be of Abraham. Rome, Jerusalem and Mecca. The Beast in Revelation 13 blasphemes the entire host of Heaven. So it can’t possibly be the Roman Catholic church. not even the Roman empire blasphemed the entire host of Heaven. Islam occupies the lands of the leopard the bear and the lion. It holds up 666 as holy number because it means "There is one God Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger. The Quran blasphemes the entire host of Heaven. It is a great sin in Islam to say that God has any sons. It calls The Son of God a thing most monstrous. It denies salvation in Christ and offers itself as salvation.

Can you see it?

You need not be afraid. The Roman Catholic church is the true Bride of Christ and is detested by the devil.

Peace be with you.

God bless you always.
 
I come to ask to please pray for me and please give me advice on what to do.
Prayers coming your way and may God help us to give you good advice.
last Monday, my friend (lets call him J) whom I’ve been friends since High School, recommended me to go to the CARM and gotquestions websites (I did not know that he is a Fundamental Baptist at the time) to what he said "explains the true doctrine of the Catholic faith. I thought those were good websites to explore the faith until I saw their hate filled positions against the non-Christians and especially us, the Catholics. Those positions (esp the statue worshiping, pagan, anti pope and Whore of Babylon parts) literally made me sick to the point that I had a fever, flu like symptoms and a huge emptiness in my soul, almost as if I have died from the inside. I could not attend my college classes for 2 days (1st day I went to the doctor to see if I was sick, he said I was healthy and 2nd day I was too sick to drive to college) and not even the announcement of the new pope made me feel better. On the night of the 2nd day, J called asking why I have not attended my college classes and I told him what he had done. All he then told me that it was my fault for believing in heresy and for being spiritually dead. I told him that I could not talk to him for some time and hanged up. Days have gone by and he hasn’t called nor do I feel the presence of Gods grace. Please help me and forgive me if I annoyed someone for the long text, but thank you for reading.
No need to apologize. You have explained well and succinctly.

First - it is sad that your friend chooses to let others tell him what the Church teaches when he could just as easily go directly to the Church to get answers.

Second - the revulsion you feel is the same revulsion that anyone would feel upon seeing that which they Love attacked - desecrated - injured - and slandered. So be heartened. Your response comes from Love and that is of God. This feeling of deadness, is not abandonment by God or by your faith. A person who has a severe shock (injury, sudden loss etc.) will often go into a “shut-down” and this is what has happened to you. Far from being abandoned…God has shielded you.

The question now is what to do about it.
There is no doubt but that we can all give you excellent advice on dealing with the various points that have brought you concern.
But I would suggest that you first and foremost go and spend some time before the blessed sacrament. Just tell Jesus what is troubling you and how important His Love is to you. That you seek only Him. Also make sure that you receive communion as often as possible.

Next - and of course this is up to you but - before you reconnect with your friend by phone - write him a letter. Tell him how troubling this was for you. Express the things to him that you have shared here. How disappointed you were to see so much hatred flowing from fellow Christians. I would also mention that you find it strange that he would be willing to take the word of strangers about what the Church teaches over the word of a friend (you) or instead of looking for himself at Church documents which are just as easily accessible on the internet as the anti-Catholic stuff is.

Having laid this groundwork…tell him that you wish him to go to some Catholic websites. “Catholic Answers” has many good articles that can be recommended. “Scripture Catholic” can provide biblical links to Catholic beliefs. The Catechism itself can be read online As can many other Church documents(Forgive me for not providing links right now but I’m short of time).
So - Challenge him to learn about Catholicism from Catholics instead of Anti-Catholics.

I hope some of these ideas are of help to you.

Peace
James
 
The reason why Catholic Answers got started was exactly to respond to the issues your friend raised.

Karl Keating wrote up a flier … a tract … in response to a leaflet that someone put under his windshield wiper.

And the demand was so high, that he eventually had to quit his day-job just to continue to write tracts, and then articles, and then books … and to give seminars … full-time.

So, welcome to the club … don’t feel like you are “The Lone Ranger” … we are all experiencing the exact same thing.

In fact, I got a nasty broadside from a family member just yesterday.

Still reeling from that blow!

So, you’re normal.

Suggestion: go on the home page of the Catholic Answers Website and find the tracts … you can read them for free or print them out or buy a set … whatever works for you … and read them.

You may find an idea or two … maybe just one word or one short sentence … that you can use to inject into your next conversation that may make the difference.

Pray always.

Fight the good fight of faith.
 
It looks like you’ve got a lot of good advice here. I just have one more thing to add. After you’ve done some research and you feel comfortable, invite your friend to go to Mass with you. To him, the Catholic Church is that huge, fancy building off main street. It is hard to hate something once you put a human face on it and you realize that that fancy building is full of people just like you. Help him to see the similarities between the Catholic and Protestant service. Point out how many times during the Mass that we quote scripture. (examples I can think of off the top of my head: “Hosanna in the highest” (Mark 11:9-10) and “Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof” (Matthew 8:8)) And definitely look at the tracts on this site. Many of them directly address the arguments used by the fundamentalists.
 
I come to ask to please pray for me and please give me advice on what to do. last Monday, my friend (lets call him J) whom I’ve been friends since High School, recommended me to go to the CARM and gotquestions websites (I did not know that he is a Fundamental Baptist at the time) to what he said "explains the true doctrine of the Catholic faith. I thought those were good websites to explore the faith until I saw their hate filled positions against the non-Christians and especially us, the Catholics. Those positions (esp the statue worshiping, pagan, anti pope and Whore of Babylon parts) literally made me sick to the point that I had a fever, flu like symptoms and a huge emptiness in my soul, almost as if I have died from the inside. I could not attend my college classes for 2 days (1st day I went to the doctor to see if I was sick, he said I was healthy and 2nd day I was too sick to drive to college) and not even the announcement of the new pope made me feel better. On the night of the 2nd day, J called asking why I have not attended my college classes and I told him what he had done. All he then told me that it was my fault for believing in heresy and for being spiritually dead. I told him that I could not talk to him for some time and hanged up. Days have gone by and he hasn’t called nor do I feel the presence of Gods grace. Please help me and forgive me if I annoyed someone for the long text, but thank you for reading.
Thank you so much for writing. I urge you to talk to a priest as soon as possible. What has happened to you is serious, and he will know best how to guide you and help you recover from it. Is there a Catholic Center at your college or a parish nearby? If not, here’s the website for Newman Center at UCLA: **paulist.org/location/university-catholic-center **and phone number **(310) 208-5015 . **If they’re not close, they should be able to refer you to a priest who is nearby.My prayers are with you, GuaCatholico.
 
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You are covered by the blood of the Lamb, the precious Blood of Jesus. By his wounds you are healed. In Jesus’ name, any spirits of doubt and discouragement be gone! And be filled with the Holy Spirit. Amen.
 
Thank you all for the warmth and guidance I desperately needed. May God bless you for your kind acts!

I decided that I will go to my pastor for spiritual nourishment.

Again, words cannot explain my sincere thanks 🙂
 
I come to ask to please pray for me and please give me advice on what to do. last Monday, my friend (lets call him J) whom I’ve been friends since High School, recommended me to go to the CARM and gotquestions websites (I did not know that he is a Fundamental Baptist at the time) to what he said "explains the true doctrine of the Catholic faith. I thought those were good websites to explore the faith until I saw their hate filled positions against the non-Christians and especially us, the Catholics. Those positions (esp the statue worshiping, pagan, anti pope and Whore of Babylon parts) literally made me sick to the point that I had a fever, flu like symptoms and a huge emptiness in my soul, almost as if I have died from the inside. I could not attend my college classes for 2 days (1st day I went to the doctor to see if I was sick, he said I was healthy and 2nd day I was too sick to drive to college) and not even the announcement of the new pope made me feel better. On the night of the 2nd day, J called asking why I have not attended my college classes and I told him what he had done. All he then told me that it was my fault for believing in heresy and for being spiritually dead. I told him that I could not talk to him for some time and hanged up. Days have gone by and he hasn’t called nor do I feel the presence of Gods grace. Please help me and forgive me if I annoyed someone for the long text, but thank you for reading.
If your friend was a true friend, he/she would know that your belief is important to you and he/she would not have condemn your belief in the Roman Catholic faith.
So my advice is you need to terminate that particular friendship for obvious reasons.

To help restore your faith, Catholic Answers Forum is a good place to start.
I would also suggest the Catechism as a great resort.

Attack on religious faith is in vogue right now. The mainstream media and others all consider faith as fair game for criticism, denigration and ridicule.
Don’t let these interests deflect you.
Don’t let these interests persuade you to their view.
Their view is wrong and immoral.
 
I pray that you regroup. I pray that you joyfully accept false accusations, persecution, rejection, and pain in imitation of your savior for the sake of sinners. Offer up your two days for your friends soul and conversion.

I pray that you see “no one is greater than His master,” if He had to suffer such injustices than it is also our lot as well. The great news is that you have an opportunity to “love your enemies.” Take this opportunity to show your friend what being Catholic is all about…imitating Jesus’. Make sure to be extra kind.

If it were me I’d be tempted to say, "After reading the information you gave me, which I know you did out of loving concern, I prayed to my Lord for insight and He said, “Blessed are the persecuted. “Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.” 😛
 
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