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Because she was “merely” (nothing more than) human. Anything else and she would have to have been a special creation of God - IOW, not born, devoid of human parents.

The requirement was that He be born of a virgin. Scripture does not specify a sinless virgin. One specially created for Him.
Another dodge. That’s not an answer to the question. No person can look on the face of God and live. No sin can exist in the presence of God. Mary could not be in sin and live when she conceived Christ. It doesn’t take a master theologian to figure that one out.

BTW…while there is no scripture that directly states that Mary was sinless, neither is there any direct quote about faith alone in regards to salvation. However, while there are many scripture passages to refute faith alone. There are none to refute that Mary was sinless.
 
That is, if you do not stand fast through faith - apostatize.
Im a little confused. Are you saying that someone, after coming to faith in Christ - and thereby being saved - has the possibility of apostasizing and being condemned?
Prove to whom? God?
It certainly could be argued that Abrahams faith was “tested” by God to determine its veracity. see Gen 22:1 “…God tested Abraham” and after Abraham raised the knife to slay his son what did the Angel of the Lord say? Gen 22:12-16 "He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, seeing you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me.” And the angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time from heaven,and said, “By myself I have sworn, says the LORD, because you have done this…I will indeed bless you…because you have obeyed my voice.” It certainly seems that Gods blessing was conditioned upon Abraham obeying God. Interestingly, all of this is well *after *Abraham’s faith was “reckoned to him as righteousness” back in Gen 15:6.
 
Mr. Dude, I know the length of many of those links you claimed to have read, and don’t see how you could have done them any justice whatsoever in the amount of time that you’ve claimed you spent on 18 articles.

Piper’s book alone, which is linked in its entirety takes months to get through and digest because of all of the exegesis of Romans.
You MISUNDERSTOOD what I was doing. There are key concepts that Sola Fide articles NEED to address, to FAIL to address these concepts means that article will undoubtedly come to erroneous conclusions about what Scripture teaches.

For example the word “impute” is a central concept to Sola Fide, but for some reason NONE of those articles looked into the usage of “impute” in the Bible to see if their interpretation of “impute” means what they claim. To FAIL to address a concept like that is as if you wrote an apologetics article and neglected to make a reference to Genesis 15:6.
Speaking of explanations of the texts, and exegesis of the original languages, that is noticeably missing from your article.
You clearly didnt read my article then or else this is a boldfaced lie. 75% of my article is going through the usage of terms like “impute” in the Bible and demonstrating that the Protestant understanding of it is gratuitous at best, down right eisegesis at worst.
What you have done in your writing is what you do on this forum—list a few verses and then exclaim, ***“See, they support the Catholic position,” *** or "See they don’t support the Protestant position."
IMO, very amateurish.
You either didnt read my article or badly misunderstood it. I cover and link to virtually every occurrence of “impute” in Scripture (as with the term “justify”). I demonstrated that only a very small percentage of the time does it mean what Protestants say it does, the greatest percentage of the time it goes directly against the Protestant claim. It is no mistake Protestants avoid doing a lexical analysis of terms like “impute” as well as talking about passages like Abraham’s faith before Genesis 15 as well as passages like Ps 106:30-31, among others.

Picture this, Im talking to everyone reading this post, take the most important phrase for Protestants regarding Sola Fide, “it was credited to him as righteousness” (Genesis 15:6). Now, considering this phrase appears only one other places in the OT, Psalm 106:30-31, it would SEEM that ANYONE interested in what the Bible says would reference and spend time talking about Ps 106:30f. YET for ‘some reason’ not a single article of the 18 that I looked at spent even one sentence covering Ps 106. Anyone who desires to be faithful to Scripture SHOULD be concerned about this detail, and the only logical answers are that the authors of these articles are either incompetent (cant do a simple word search) or they are deliberately hiding something. THIS is the type of stuff my apologetics article DOES spend time looking into.
As always, I’m unconvinced by any of your “same old arguments.”
You cant be unconvinced considering the last time we had the Abraham argument you so clearly painted yourself in a corner that you couldnt even answer single and direct yes or no questions.
 
Rom. 3:28-30, “For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.”
Rom. 4:5, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness.”
Rom. 5:1, “therefore having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Rom. 9:30, “What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, attained righteousness, even the righteousness which is by faith.”
Rom. 10:4, “For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.”
Rom. 11:6, “But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.”
Gal. 2:16, “nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified.”
Gal. 2:21, I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.
Gal.3:5-6, “Does He then, who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? 6Even so Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.”
Gal. 3:24, “Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith.”
Eph. 2:8-9, “For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God. Not by works, lest any man should boast.”
Phil. 3:9, “and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith.”

Again, works/Law is contrasted with faith repeatedly and we are told that we are not justified by works in any way. Therefore, we are made right with God by faith, not by faith and our works; hence, faith alone.

The scriptures clearly teach that we are saved (justified) by faith in Christ and what He has done on the cross. This faith alone saves us. However, we cannot stop here without addressing what James says in James 2:24, “You see that a man is justified by works, and not by faith alone.”

There is no contradiction. All you need to do is look at the context. James chapter 2 has 26 verses: Verses 1-7 instruct us to not show favoritism. Verses 8-13 are comments on the Law. Verses 14-26 are about the relationship between faith and works.

James begins this section by using the example of someone who says he has faith but has no works, “What use is it, my brethren, if a man says he has faith, but he has no works? Can that faith save him?” (James 2:14). In other words, James is addressing the issue of a dead faith, that is nothing more than a verbal pronouncement, a public confession of the mind, and is not heart-felt. It is empty of life and action. He begins with the negative and demonstrates what an empty faith is (verses 15-17, words without actions). Then he shows that this type of faith isn’t any different from the faith of demons (verse 19). Finally, he gives examples of living faith that has words followed by actions. Works follow true faith and demonstrate that faith to our fellow man, but not to God. James writes of Abraham and Rahab as examples of people who demonstrated their faith by their deeds.

In brief, James is examining two kinds of faith: one that leads to godly works and one that does not. One is true, and the other is false. One is dead, the other alive; hence, “Faith without works is dead” (James 2:20). But, he is not contradicting the verses above that say salvation/justification is by faith alone.

Also, notice that James actually quotes the same verse that Paul quotes in Rom. 4:3 amongst a host of verses dealing with justification by faith. James 2:23 says, “and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, and Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.’” If James was trying to teach a contradictory doctrine of faith and works than the other New Testament writers, then he would not have used Abraham as an example. Therefore, we can see that justification is by faith alone and that James was talking about false faith, not real faith when he said we are not justified by faith alone.

Faith Alone!!!
 
Therefore, we can see that justification is by faith alone and that James was talking about false faith, not real faith when he said we are not justified by faith alone.

Faith Alone!!!
None of the verses you’ve quoted put the terms “faith” and “alone” together in a positive sense. Only once are the two terms put together, but in a negative sense. Therefore, making a positive slogan out of the two terms is at the very least unhelpful to the discussion.

Sure, you may be able to defend the soteriology that is summarized by the slogan “Faith Alone!”. However, since James 2:24 qualifies the words “faith alone” negatively, it’s better to use the positive constructions that Scripture actually gives:“faith apart from works of the law” (Romans 3:28)

“justified by faith” (Romans 5:1)

“not justified by the works of the Law but through faith” (Galatians 2:16)

Etc.
Besides being the words of Scripture—a very good thing—these constructions avoid what some may argue is but an apparent contradiction.
 
It is so simple of what Jesus our Lord and Savior was saying. All in all, we are not justified by our works but by His. The works we do after attaining life, that is Eternal life through Jesus Christ, is for his Glory, not for us to be saved. Also, I was reading somewhere in another post that we have to hold God’s hand. Not so, God is the one who holds our hand. Yes, we sometimes tend to “fall away” but somehow God knows and finds a way to bring us back. We sometimes want to get our heads and think we can do without Jesus and not let him work through us. Because once you accept him as your Lord and Savior, you are saved. He comes and lives in your heart. He takes away the veil from your eyes and then you can see the real truth. God Bless you brother and I will be praying for you.
 
Saving faith is that faith that forsakes the sinful life.
Then based on your definition if one returns to a sinful lifestyle it is evident that he never was saved; he never had “saving faith” since, as you say, that faith forsakes a sinful lifestyle. You cannot lose what you never had. You cannot fall from where you’ve never been.
 
moodweller,

Can a Christian fall from grace?
Can’t answer unless I know how you interpret that phrase.

But let me ask you:

We know that when one is saved by grace, through faith, not as a result of works, that he is then “created in Christ Jesus” for good works.

So, does God, upon loss of salvation, un-create him? Being “in Christ” does God then reverse him back to again being “in Adam;” once again dead in his trespasses and sins?

Having been redeemed (purchased) by precious blood, does God un-redeem him; sell him back to his previous state of slavery?

Having been reconciled to God, does God then un-reconcile him; return him back to being, once again, an enemy of God?

Having been regenerated by the Spirit, does the Spirit un-regenerate him? Where he was once made alive by the Spirit to the things of God, does the Spirit then spiritually kill him off again?

Having been baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ, does the Spirit un-baptize him out of Christ’s body?

Can you show me by example in Scripture where God ever un-creates something He’s created? Where Christ ever sells back that which He purchased with the price of His own shed blood? Where the Spirit takes away life rather than gives it?Rom 11:29 "…for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable."I think, Pax, what you utterly fail to understand is what a “Christian” actually is according to divine revelation. What, by the power of God, divine salvation actually entails. Nor will you ever know as long as you continue to believe your works have anything, or everything, to do with it.
 
Im a little confused. Are you saying that someone, after coming to faith in Christ - and thereby being saved - has the possibility of apostasizing and being condemned?
No. An apostate never has believed. When the gospel is lost, so is the ability to believe it unto salvation.
It certainly could be argued that Abrahams faith was “tested” by God to determine its veracity. see Gen 22:1 “…God tested Abraham” and after Abraham raised the knife to slay his son what did the Angel of the Lord say? Gen 22:12-16 "He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, seeing you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me.” And the angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time from heaven,and said, “By myself I have sworn, says the LORD, because you have done this…I will indeed bless you…because you have obeyed my voice.” It certainly seems that Gods blessing was conditioned upon Abraham obeying God. Interestingly, all of this is well *after *Abraham’s faith was “reckoned to him as righteousness” back in Gen 15:6.
Not at all. God justified Abraham upon belief in Him. He had already made an unconditional covenant with him to bless him.

Based on what you’ve written here, according to your theology God is not perfect. He is constantly in need of learning based on man’s actions. That’s not the God of the Bible.
 
Having been regenerated by the Spirit, does the Spirit un-regenerate him? Where he was once made alive by the Spirit to the things of God, does the Spirit then spiritually kill him off again?
Responsibility for sin is attributed to the person who committed it. God does not commit sin, so the sins of His creatures are not reduced to God as cause.

And since*, *in the Catholic understanding, the consequence of separation from God follows from the very nature of grave sin, deliberately chosen, this consequence is attributed not to God but to the creature who sinned gravely.

A Catholic would therefore agree with you wholeheartedly that God does not “spiritually kill” a person, and say that if a person dies spiritually it is because he deliberately chose to commit “spiritual suicide”.
 
Can’t answer unless I know how you interpret that phrase.
The question is a simple one. I state the question in reference to salvation. Can a person fall from grace and lose their salvation?
By the way…I think you knew exactly what I meant.
But let me ask you:

We know that when one is saved by grace, through faith, not as a result of works, that he is then “created in Christ Jesus” for good works.

So, does God, upon loss of salvation, un-create him? Being “in Christ” does God then reverse him back to again being “in Adam;” once again dead in his trespasses and sins?.
The best approach is to follow scripture and to use the words of scripture. It is silly to ask if God will “uncreate” the person. You also need an open mind, and you need to let scripture teach you whether or not your doctrine is coherent and consistent with scripture. IMHO it is neither. My answer to your question should demonstrate what I am talking about.

We are told in many places in the NT that as believers that we become “children of God,” and that we are “sons and daughters of God.” This is extremely important and it is important to remember that we are members of the New Covenant family of God. As such we have an “inheritance” and that inheritance is eternal life in the kingdom of heaven.

Your contention is that this inheritance cannot be lost. Our contention is that it can. We believe that sin can cause us to lose that inheritance and you do not. We believe that a person can be dead in sin and you do not. We believe that sin leads to death even for the believer, but you do not.

The following scripture clearly support this view and deny your beliefs.

In the story of the prodigal son we know the following:
  1. The son was a member of the Father’s household. (Luke 15:1)
  2. The son left the household and the Father did not stop him. (Luke 13)
  3. The son squandered his “inheritance.” (Luke 13)
  4. The son finally comes to his senses and returns repentent to his Father.(Luke 15:18-21)
  5. The Father rejoices and orders the servants to set up a feast with the fatted calf.(Luke 15:22-23)
  6. The Father the gives the reason for rejoicing and says:
"For this my son was dead, and is alive again" (Luke 15:24)

The facts in this story coincide with those associated with the Christian believer. We are sons and daughters of the household of God. If we leave the household, as does the prodigal son, we will hhave squandered our inheritance because we will be dead in sin. The only way that we will be alive again is if we repent. If we refuse to repent we will lose our salvation. We must be like the prodigal son who humbly returns in repentence.

Please note that a member of the household can clearly squander their heavenly inheritance and be “dead.” Your contention that a “true” believer cannot do this, simply goes against scripture. Anyone that is a believer is a member of the household and is a son/daughter of God. There status changes when they leave the household…they are “dead” as it says in Luke 15:24.

Likewise, James makes the same case. He says the following:

James 5:19-20
“My brethren, if any one among you wanders from the truth and some one brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.”

James is clearly talking about a Christian believer that:
  1. “…wanders from the truth…”
This means that the person is no longer following Jesus and He is no longer being led by the Spirit. Jesus is the truth and we led by the Spirit in truth. Obviously this is a reference to a Christian that is no longer doing so.
  1. The person is referred to as “a sinner” and not as a non-believer.
This means that we can fall into a sinful life style and no longer follow Jesus the one whom we believe. Instead, we are allowing the spirit of the world that is ruled by Satan to seduce us into sin and following the spirit of the world.
  1. "If some one leads the sinner back from the error of his way, then he will save his[the sinner’s] soul from death and cover a multitude of sins."
This means that leading a believer that is living a sinful life back from the error of his ways is possible. We know that it is possible, but not always inevitable because of the provisional word “If.” We also know that if the believing sinner does come back then the sinner’s soul will be saved. If the sinner does not return then it is clear that the believing sinner’s soul will be lost.
 
Having been redeemed (purchased) by precious blood, does God un-redeem him; sell him back to his previous state of slavery?
Once again, let’s see what scripture says.

Romans 8:14-17
For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, “Abba! Father!” it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.

Please note the conditional qualifier in the word “provided.”

After making this statement about falling back into the spirit of slavery, Paul also says this elsewhere in his testimony:

Galatians 5:1
“FOR FREEDOM Christ has set us free; stand fast therefore, and **do not submit again **to a yoke of slavery.”

Clearly, Paul is warning us not to fall back into slavery and that we must “standfast.” So even though God does not sell us back into slavery, we can certainly fall back into it on our own.
Having been reconciled to God, does God then un-reconcile him; return him back to being, once again, an enemy of God?
Scripture will answer your question:

James 4:4-5 says:
Unfaithful creatures! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Or do you suppose it is in vain that the scripture says, "He yearns jealously over the spirit which he has made to dwell in us"?

It is not God that makes us enemies again. It is we that put ourselves at enmity with God who has made the Spirit dwell in us.
Having been regenerated by the Spirit, does the Spirit un-regenerate him? Where he was once made alive by the Spirit to the things of God, does the Spirit then spiritually kill him off again?
This was answered in my prior post with the example of the prodigal son who was described as** “dead.”**
Having been baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ, does the Spirit un-baptize him out of Christ’s body?
Baptism brings us into the family of God, but it does not prevent us from leaving. Once again, it is not the Holy Spirit that does the damage of separation. It is the individual who can reject the gifts God has given at anytime. Scripture makes this clear in many places. Some of them I have already cited. Paul even tells us in 1 Thess 5:19 “Do not quench the Holy Spirit.”
Can you show me by example in Scripture where God ever un-creates something He’s created? Where Christ ever sells back that which He purchased with the price of His own shed blood? Where the Spirit takes away life rather than gives it?Rom 11:29 "…for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable."I think, Pax, what you utterly fail to understand is what a “Christian” actually is according to divine revelation. What, by the power of God, divine salvation actually entails. Nor will you ever know as long as you continue to believe your works have anything, or everything, to do with it.
I hope that what I have shown you already is enough to make it clear that God’s gifts are not taken back by God. Instead, it is us that throw them away. There are things that we can do to separate ourselves from God and that will bring damnation. That part is all our own doing. Here is an example:

Gal 5:1-2
“FOR FREEDOM Christ has set us free; stand fast therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Now I, Paul, say to you that **if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. **”

Paul is telling his fellow Christians that are tempted to follow the Judaizers, that if they abandon faith in Christ in favor of faith in the OT Law exemplified in the requirement of circumcision, they will no longer have salvation by way of Jesus. This would be their choice. It would not be God doing anything to them.

Likewise, Paul points out sins that lead to damnation and warns the Christian believers about them. Some examples of the sins he lists are as follows:

Galatians 5: 19-21
Now the works of the flesh are plain: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
 
So did Jesus take care of all the sins we have committed, are committing, and will commit? Yes, on the cross at calvary. Once and for all. He said, “It is finished.” He will remember your SINS no more. The only sin he does not forgive is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
 
Are you saying that you can be utterly carefree about any sins that you commit subsequent to being justified and that you do not have to be repentent of sins committed subsequent to being justified?
 
Jesus sacrifice on the cross is sufficient for the sins of all men of all times. Jesus sacrifice on the cross is not applied to all sins of all men of all times. That is why some people are not saved.

The suffiency of Jesus sacrifice is not to be confused with the application of that sufficiency.
 
You MISUNDERSTOOD what I was doing. There are key concepts that Sola Fide articles NEED to address, to FAIL to address these concepts means that article will undoubtedly come to erroneous conclusions about what Scripture teaches.
You either didnt read my article or badly misunderstood it.
I have read your article and I find some erroneous reasoning and substantial omissions.
You are right that Protestants and Catholics mean different things by justification. To most Protestants justification is part of salvation but not the whole of it. You then proceed to compare the Catholic view with the Protestant view without considering the other parts of the Protestant position that are relevant to a full understanding of Protestant belief.
In particular you stress the distinction between imputation and infusion without acknowledging that Protestantism does recognize an infusion, resulting in an actual change of the person as part of salvation. This is the concept of regeneration which refers to the spiritual rebirth and the infusion of a new nature into a man through the Holy Spirit. I am not a Calvinist but you do quote from a number of Calvinist sources on a selective basis. In his Institutes of the Christian Religion, Calvin deals with regeneration as part of repentance.
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But seeing that all the desires of the flesh are enmity against God, the first step to the obedience of his law is the renouncement of our own nature. Renovation is afterwards manifested by the fruits produced by it—viz. justice, judgment, and mercy. Since it were not sufficient duly to perform such acts, were not the mind and heart previously endued with sentiments of justice, judgment, and mercy this is done when the Holy Spirit, instilling his holiness into our souls, so inspired them with new thoughts and affections, that they may justly be regarded as new.
In one word, then, by repentance I understand regeneration, the only aim of which is to form in us anew the image of God, which was sullied, and all but effaced by the transgression of Adam. So the Apostle teaches when he says, “We all with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, as by the Spirit of the Lord.” Again, “Be renewed in the spirit of your minds” and “put ye on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.” Again, “Put ye on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him.” Accordingly through the blessing of Christ we are renewed by that regeneration into the righteousness of God from which we had fallen through Adam, the Lord being pleased in this manner to restore the integrity of all whom he appoints to the inheritance of life. This renewal, indeed, is not accomplished in a moment, a day, or a year, but by uninterrupted, sometimes even by slow progress God abolishes the remains of carnal corruption in his elect, cleanses them from pollution, and consecrates them as his temples, restoring all their inclinations to real purity, so that during their whole lives they may practice repentance, and know that death is the only termination to this warfare.
By regeneration the children of God are delivered from the bondage of sin, but not as if they had already obtained full possession of freedom, and no longer felt any annoyance from the flesh. Materials for an unremitting contest remain, that they may be exercised, and not only exercised, but may better understand their weakness. All writers of sound judgment agree in this, that, in the regenerate man, there is still a spring of evil which is perpetually sending forth desires that allure and stimulate him to sin. They also acknowledge that the saints are still so liable to the disease of concupiscence, that, though opposing it, they cannot avoid being ever and anon prompted and incited to lust, avarice, ambition, or other vices…Accordingly, we hold that there is always sin in the saints until they are freed from their mortal frame, because depraved concupiscence resides in their flesh, and is at variance with rectitude. Augustine himself dose not always refrain from using the name of sin, as when he says, “Paul gives the name of sin to that carnal concupiscence from which all sins arise. This in regard to the saints loses its dominion in this world, and is destroyed in heaven.” In these words he admits that believers, in so far as they are liable to carnal concupiscence, are chargeable with sin.
In regenerating his people God indeed accomplishes this much for them; he destroys the dominion of sin, by supplying the agency of the Spirit, which enables them to come off victorious from the contest. Sin, however, though it ceases to reign, ceases not to dwell in them. Accordingly, though we say that the old man is crucified, and the law of sin is abolished in the children of God, the remains of sin survive, not to have dominion, but to humble them under a consciousness of their infirmity. We admit that these remains, just as if they had no existence, are not imputed, but we, at the same time, contend that it is owing to the mercy of God that the saints are not charged with the guilt which would otherwise make them sinners before God.
ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes.v.iv.html
 
So Calvin recognizes that righteousness is infused into us as part of salvation, but he distinguishes regeneration from justification. He also recognizes that we cannot be considered completely righteous because of the concupiscence which still remains within us. This concupiscence is a primary reason that justification is viewed as imputed righteousness because, by God’s standard, righteousness would be perfection. Several passages make clear that we can never truly be completely righteous in this lifetime.
A Psalm of David. Hear my prayer, O LORD, Give ear to my supplications! Answer me in Your faithfulness, in Your righteousness! And do not enter into judgment with Your servant, For in Your sight no man living is righteous.
(Psalms 143:1-2 NASB)
For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year, make perfect those who draw near. Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, because the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have had consciousness of sins?
(Hebrews 10:1-2 NASB)
But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.
(James 2:9-10 NASB)
So according to Hebrews we are not perfect since that would mean that we would not be conscious of sins. James tells us that any violation, which does not seem to exclude what Catholics would call venial sin, makes us guilty of all. The Psalmist tells us that no one alive is righteous in God’s sight. This all would show that, although we are infused with a new spirit and nature, we are not truly made righteous because we can still sin and are, therefore, not perfect.

With respect to the meaning that impute may have in other parts of Scripture, it is not really relevant in dealing with it in the matter of justification. What is important is the context in which it is used, particularly in Romans 4, and whether, in relation to the rest of Scripture, in such a context it can mean actually being made righteous. As seen, while an infusion does take place in regeneration, by which we are cleansed from sin and a new nature imparted, we still have part of our old sin nature or concupiscence within us. Thus, while we may be viewed as more righteous, we cannot truly be said to be righteous. It should be noted, however, that even if a statistical evaluation of the word impute is of value, one quarter of the times that it appears in the New Testament is in Romans 4 and other places dealing with imputation of righteousness. To leave such a large part of the usage out of the evaluation is questionable.

With respect to Abraham and Genesis 12, it is not really a problem for a non-Calvinist who does not accept once saved always saved. Justification can be viewed as a conditional verdict that remains in place so long as saving faith endures. It is a pronouncement of innocence and righteousness that is continually being made.
 
Are you saying that you can be utterly carefree about any sins that you commit subsequent to being justified and that you do not have to be repentent of sins committed subsequent to being justified?
Carefree??? Of course not!!! Still in flesh, we still sin. Nobody can be sinless. The only person was and is Jesus. Once you accept him as your Lord and Saviour, he comes and lives in your heart. He will give you descernship (msp?). It is Him who lives through you because He is ALIVE. Walking in faith.

Jesus sacrifice IS sufficient for the sins of all men of all times. The reason why some people do not attain salvation is because they do not believe in the gospel when preached to. You have to believe with your heart and confess with your mouth that you believe what Jesus did at Calvary. The Gospel in other words. Jesus made it so simple.
 
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