Faith Alone?

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That distinction does not matter for the post I made, since I was replying to rcwitness’s claim that “salvation is not given to us because we did good works.”
But that is not specifically what I said. This is what I said:

The Catholic Faith and doctrine of “Faith and Works” does NOT teach or imply that we are only justified after/because we have done good works!

This is because we are Justified first and freely without earning, deserving or meriting God’s grace towards us but out of His good will towards us. We are then justified by relying on His life and fullfilling His will in our lives. The first condition is inevitably met by the challenges which oppose faith. It impossible to live by faith alone and do no work of God. Someone can profess belief in Christ, convey all sorts of truths in the faith, yet not do the work of God in their life. You tell me which person will gain eternal life?
 
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“For since Christ Jesus Himself, as the head into the members and the vine into the branches,[99] continually infuses strength into those justified, which strength always precedes, accompanies and follows their good works, and without which they could not in any manner be pleasing and meritorious before God, we must believe that nothing further is wanting to those justified to prevent them from being considered to have, by those very works which have been done in God, fully satisfied the divine law according to the state of this life and to have truly merited eternal life, to be obtained in its [due] time, provided they depart [this life] in grace,” (Session vi, chapter xvi
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CHAPTER XVI.
On the fruit of Justification, that is, on the merit of good works, and on the nature of that merit.
Before men, therefore, who have been justified in this manner,-whether they have preserved uninterruptedly the grace received, or whether they have recovered it when lost,-are to be set the words of the Apostle: Abound in every good work, knowing that your labour is not in vain in the Lord (1 Cor 15:58); for God is not unjust, that he should forget your work, and the love which you have shown in his name (Heb 6:10); and, do not lose your confidence, which hath a great reward (Heb 10:35). And, for this cause, life eternal is to be proposed to those working well unto [Page 43] the end, and hoping in God, both as a grace mercifully promised to the sons of God through Jesus Christ, and as a reward which is according to the promise of God Himself, to be faithfully rendered to their good works and merits. For this is that crown of justice which the Apostle declared was, after his fight and course, laid up for him, to be rendered to him by the just judge, and not only to him, but also to all that love his coming. For, whereas Jesus Christ Himself continually infuses his virtue into the said justified,-as the head into the members, and the vine into the branches,-and this virtue always precedes and accompanies and follows their good works, which without it could not in any wise be pleasing and meritorious before God,-we must believe that nothing further is wanting to the justified, to prevent their being accounted to have, by those very works which have been done in God, fully satisfied the divine law according to the state of this life, and to have truly merited eternal life, to be obtained also in its (due) time, if so be, however, that they depart in grace: seeing that Christ, our Saviour, saith: If any one shall drink of the water that I will give him, he shall not thirst for ever; but it shall become in him a fountain of water springing up unto life everlasting. Thus, neither is our own justice established as our own as from ourselves; nor is the justice of God ignored or repudiated: for that justice which is called ours, because that we are justified from its being inherent in us, that same is (the justice) of God, because that it is infused into us of God, through the merit of Christ. Neither is this to be omitted,-that although, in the sacred writings, so much is attributed to good works, that Christ promises, that even he that shall give a drink of cold water to one of his least ones, shall not lose his reward; and the Apostle testifies that, That which is at present momentary and light of our tribulation, worketh for us above measure exceedingly an eternal weight of glory; nevertheless God forbid that a Christian should either trust or glory in himself, and not in the Lord, whose bounty towards all [Page 44] men is so great, that He will have the things which are His own gifts be their merits. And forasmuch as in many things we all offend, each one ought to have before his eyes, as well the severity and judgment, as the mercy and goodness (of God); neither ought any one to judge himself, even though he be not conscious to himself of anything; because the whole life of man is to be examined and judged, not by the judgment of man, but of God, who will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts, and then shall every man have praise from God, who, as it is written, will render to every man according to his works. After this Catholic doctrine on Justification, which whoso receiveth not faithfully and firmly cannot be justified, it hath seemed good to the holy Synod to subjoin these canons, that all may know not only what they ought to hold and follow, but also what to avoid and shun.
Scriptural inserts are mine.
 
Originally Posted by Koineman
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Because it shifts the burden of salvation from Christ to the believer, and because it contradicts Romans 4:5, which says that we are justified by faith and NOT by working. Justification is the basis of eternal life, since it is by justification that a person’s sins are not imputed to him or her:

"What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven,
And whose sins have been covered. 8 “Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.” " (Rom. 4)

St. Paul’s meaning here is clear: To be justified is to have one’s faith credited as righteousness, and inextricably wound up in that is also the Lord’s not taking his sin into account, i.e., his “lawless deeds have been forgiven.” Where there is forgiveness of sin, there is no condemnation, hence eternal life. Justification is the basis of eternal life.

What Trent did was say that justification is not merited and is through grace (true) but then go on to say that our works merit eternal life, which contradicts Paul’s description of justification in Rom. 4.

What Trent offers with one hand they take away with the other.
 
7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven,
And whose sins have been covered. 8 “Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.” " (Rom. 4)

St. Paul’s meaning here is clear: To be justified is to have one’s faith credited as righteousness, and inextricably wound up in that is also the Lord’s not taking his sin into account, i.e., his “lawless deeds have been forgiven.” Where there is forgiveness of sin, there is no condemnation, hence eternal life. Justification is the basis of eternal life.

What Trent did was say that justification is not merited and is through grace (true) but then go on to say that our works merit eternal life, which contradicts Paul’s description of justification in Rom. 4.

What Trent offers with one hand they take away with the other.
“Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven, and whose sins have been covered.”

Is it not necessary in order for sins to be forgiven that we must repent and ask for forgiveness first? This would be uniting our “work” to the will of God in repentance and confession. Whenever our freewill is involved, it can have eternal ramifications either to eternal life, or eternal condemnation merited by our freedom to choose and to act. I don’t see a contradiction either with St. Paul or the Council of Trent.
 
There is “action” and then there is “work;” for example, thinking is not a work.
 
There is “action” and then there is “work;” for example, thinking is not a work.
Indeed:

Matt 7:21 “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who **does **the will of my Father who is in heaven."

Matt 12:50 For whoever **does **the will of my Father in heaven is my brother, and sister, and mother.”

It requires doing.
 
Indeed:

Matt 7:21 “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who **does **the will of my Father who is in heaven."

Matt 12:50 For whoever **does **the will of my Father in heaven is my brother, and sister, and mother.”

It requires doing.
Just Do It
 
Because it shifts the burden of salvation from Christ to the believer, and because it contradicts Romans 4:5, which says that we are justified by faith and NOT by working. Justification is the basis of eternal life, since it is by justification that a person’s sins are not imputed to him or her:

"What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven,
And whose sins have been covered. 8 “Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.” " (Rom. 4)

St. Paul’s meaning here is clear: To be justified is to have one’s faith credited as righteousness, and inextricably wound up in that is also the Lord’s not taking his sin into account, i.e., his “lawless deeds have been forgiven.” Where there is forgiveness of sin, there is no condemnation, hence eternal life. Justification is the basis of eternal life.

What Trent did was say that justification is not merited and is through grace (true) but then go on to say that our works merit eternal life, which contradicts Paul’s description of justification in Rom. 4.

What Trent offers with one hand they take away with the other.
[Rms2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 **Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:]
 
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