Faith and Reason

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I’m not sure if this is the right forum, and I’m sure there are many threads already on this subject. However, tonight I had looked up a book online (** by Kira Peikoff, and I know I shouldn’t have done it because this book is very anti-Catholic, anti-religious and ‘pro-choice’ in general, as the author is the daughter of Ayn Rand’s executor, and all the characters represent values distorted to extremes, especially the ‘Christian’ antagonists, just like in Rand’s work, IMO, but I digress :tsktsk:).
Now as I read some of the reviews for this book, which I have no intention of buying or reading, I saw one person claim that the Catholic Church “even pretends that reason and faith coexist”, or something to that effect. It really just made me :nope: :banghead: and now I’m posting about the experience because I need to rant. Sorry. I know I shouldn’t let random posts on the Internet bother me.
Anyway, when objections like this come up, what could be a defense? How do we prove that faith and reason in fact can and do coexist? Thanks for any answers.
 
A simple thing that I think of whenever someone mentions this is that ask anyone why they believe in the Christian God. Many might talk about a personal experience they’ve had, some might talk about the universe and the first cause argument or the source of objective morality. Either way, they are giving a reason why they have faith.

So, to have faith in something, you have to have a reason to believe. To have a reason is to use reason.

Science also uses faith and there are those who have faith within science. Just talk to String Theorists. There are those who swear by the 11 dimensional model, and others an infinite dimensional model, and so on. Faith in the hypothesis, I feel, is what drives the scientific studies. Look at the Higgs Boson discovery. Before the discovery was made, you’ll hear people say, “It has to exist, we just need to prove it”. That is having faith. Similar can be said with Christians and God. Christians reason there has to be a God, one supreme eternal being, the source of all. The only difference is when it comes to proving God’s existence, many do not accept the same evidence, just like the String Theorists. This may be due to ignorance, doubt, or something else, but regardless, it shows faith and reason do coexist. And I would even say that faith requires reason.
 
When you read something like this, do not allow it to cause you to lose your peace.

That person has lost faith - if they ever had it. They are most likely angry about something.

Simply say a prayer for them and move on, keeping peace within yourself.

See, they have lost peace. Their lose of peace can roll and roll and make others lose peace.
 
Faith is something you can reason. Either you have it or not. I know it is hard to believe in things you can’t touch, taste or hear. However, you can feel God and His presence in your life. But how, what or why is far beyond our understanding, that is why we call it faith.

I don’t know if I am different, I doubt that, but I feel God all the time. I know He is with me, don’t ask me why. Still I sin. I sin because I am merely human. But I don’t need a reason to believe, I know, and that is OK for me. To ask “why” is in vain, the answer is not yet for us to understand.
 
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I’m not sure if this is the right forum, and I’m sure there are many threads already on this subject. However, tonight I had looked up a book online (** by Kira Peikoff, and I know I shouldn’t have done it because this book is very anti-Catholic, anti-religious and ‘pro-choice’ in general, as the author is the daughter of Ayn Rand’s executor, and all the characters represent values distorted to extremes, especially the ‘Christian’ antagonists, just like in Rand’s work, IMO, but I digress :tsktsk:).
Now as I read some of the reviews for this book, which I have no intention of buying or reading, I saw one person claim that the Catholic Church “even pretends that reason and faith coexist”, or something to that effect. It really just made me :nope: :banghead: and now I’m posting about the experience because I need to rant. Sorry. I know I shouldn’t let random posts on the Internet bother me.
Anyway, when objections like this come up, what could be a defense? How do we prove that faith and reason in fact can and do coexist? Thanks for any answers.
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Tell them that Adam and Eve were literal persons. If they object, point to the bible for back up.😛

You want to comment about a book you won’t read, and want us to give you an argument to defend the catholic position without having read the book.

You sound very desperate.
 
You want to comment about a book you won’t read, and want us to give you an argument to defend the catholic position without having read the book.
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I know, it’s just that things like these are easily frustrating for me. Sorry.
 
Thank you all for your replies. I’ve now realized how ridiculous this thread actually is.
 
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