Faith Hope and Love....or Charity

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The three theological virtues are listed in the Cathechism as Faith Hope and Charity.

But I’ve always seen them in Scripture as Faith Hope and Love.

Are the two words being used interchangeably here?

Does this have something to do with the original Greek translation?

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I’m certainly no Greek expert but I’ll take a crack at it.
In Greek there is more than one word for Love.
I think Agape Love is the love God has for us and we should have for our fellow man. This is the orginal meaning of charity
However charity in today’s language has a more narrow meaning
 
This is correct. The word translated as “love” or “charity” is agape, that is, a selfless, sacrificial love. It’s not easy to translate into English.

Both words are acceptable and interchangeable. It’s very important for readers to keep the Greek word in mind.
 
This is correct. The word translated as “love” or “charity” is agape, that is, a selfless, sacrificial love. It’s not easy to translate into English.

Both words are acceptable and interchangeable. It’s very important for readers to keep the Greek word in mind.
Porthos, Gus & Sugar Ray:

May this will make it easier:

Romans 5:6-11 RSV

While we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. Why, one will hardly die for a righteous man – though perhaps for a good man one will dare even to die. But God shows his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. Not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received our reconciliation.

etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=RsvRoma.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=5&division=div1

1 Cor 13:4-13 RSV

*Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood.

So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love. *

etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=Rsv1Cor.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=13&division=div1

The word in these we translate as “love” in these passages is “agape”. Picture someone we’ve treated shamefuly, and have beaten to within an inch of his life, jumping on a mine one of us has triggerred, while pushing us out of the way, in order to save our lives, and you should have the idea.

This is a love we could never hope to produce on our own, and it was seeing this love in action that caused Roman pegans to leave their comfortable, and safe, seats in the Flavian Amphiteater to join the Christians on the floor below so that they could die with them.

Your Brother in Christ, MIchael
 
Charity is used in older translations that are a few hundred years old. Thus next time you are at the library look up charity in the Oxford English Language Encylopedia type dictionary. You will find out that agape was translated as caritas in latin which was translated as charity in english.

aside, this may be a fun thing to ask a king james only person about.
  1. The Greek word for love. In the Septuagint it is used to cover love in all its senses. In the NT it acquired a special connotation; in Christian usage agape (αγάπε) denotes spiritual and unselfish love, contrasted with eros (ἤρως), carnal love. **It was translated into Latin by caritas ; hence the original meaning of ‘charity’ in English. **
highbeam.com/doc/1O95-agape.html
 
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