Faith vs. Works

[JonNC]

=Cathoholic;11367685]Even if your 248 “denominations” were true (evidence?), this when added into the 38,000 denominations (and it keeps growing every day) all serve to further make my point.

It’s not foolish at all. Calling me or my idea “foolish” does not answer the point.

The 38,000 denominations is not OK JonNC and it is an embarrassment to people who try to assert the perspicuity of Scripture (the erroneous assertion that Scripture is so self evident a child can interpret it).

(Incidentally: Show me how these 248 are submissive to their Bishops, then show me how those Bishops are submissive to the teachings and corrections of the Pope and I will show you they are not fully Catholic. If they are submissive to the order of authority (their Bishops, etc.), they will be corrected in time. If not, they are not fully Catholic.)

First, I wasn’t referring to you as foolish, but instead the statistical number of denominations idea. And I sited that one of those sources says there are 248 (or some such) Catholic Churches, dividing it by nations. That’s ridiculous. there is only one Church in communion with the Bishop of Rome.

My point remains, the self-evident nature (perspicuity) of Scripture is highlighted as an invention when you point these things out. The more denominations you assert JonNC, the more obvious it is that the perspicuity of Scripture is a false doctrine.

And it IS a false doctrine. There are some things in the Scriptures “that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction . . .”

Don’t fight so hard. I was agreeing with you, hence the quote from Martin Chemnitz: This is also certain, that no one should rely on his own wisdom in the interpretation of the Scripture, not even in the clear passages…

I’ll respond to the rest when I have more time.

Jon