Faithful-devout Catholics and scripture reading

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How many faithful/devout Catholics do you know that faithfully and devoutly read the scriptures?

Im asking this because something I have noticed in my own parish with some of our most faithful members troubles me.

They seem to not know the scriptures very well.
 
In more recent years there is more emphasis on catechizing Catholics to read Scripture, so what you described may happily improve considerably.
 
Well…there’s me & my sister, and a few of the people in my SCC group. :confused:

Here’s what I’ve noticed…the church provides those quarterly booklets in the pews for people who want to follow along in the Mass that include the days’ scripture reading. In the SCC groups they order “At Home With the Word” - again the days’ scripture readings printed in a small, handy-dandy booklet. In RCIA the scripture readings are typed up on a piece of paper for distribution and study. What bothers me is that so few people use an actual Bible! It seems like our church does everything they can that prevents people from cracking open a Bible. I would bet that some people don’t even realize that those readings are from the Bible, much less be able to find them.

I really think this is so unfortunate! How many times have you read the scripture readings for the coming sunday in a bible and been compelled to keep reading to the rest of the chapter? If all we’re given is a few verses lifted from the Bible we’ll never become as Bible-literate as our Protestant brothers & sisters.

I would really like to see more Catholics spend more time in in-depth Bible reading. I’d like to see the PSR and CCD classes make familiarity with the Bible a top priority.
 
and you are able to judge this how? in what context?
By conversations I have with them.

That includes a friend of mine who is a reader. 🤷

In one more recent instance, she didnt recognize that our priest, during the reading of the Gospel, had chanted Our Lady’s fiat.

her comment to the cantor when the cantor asked “what did father do? why did he do that?”

reader’s response—“who the hell knows what father does. I never understand what he does”.

My reply. “Ladies, he was chanting Our Lady’s fiat. It was today’s Gospel reading”

And my friend/ reader had at one time been discerning a vocation to the point she was a noviate (sp?).

There are plenty more examples that I have experienced, all leaving me scratching my head… 🤷
 
By conversations I have with them.

That includes a friend of mine who is a reader. 🤷

In one more recent instance, she didnt recognize that our priest, during the reading of the Gospel, had chanted Our Lady’s fiat.

her comment to the cantor when the cantor asked “what did father do? why did he do that?”

reader’s response—“who the hell knows what father does. I never understand what he does”.

My reply. “Ladies, he was chanting Our Lady’s fiat. It was today’s Gospel reading”

And my friend/ reader had at one time been discerning a vocation to the point she was a noviate (sp?).

There are plenty more examples that I have experienced, all leaving me scratching my head… 🤷
:eek: Weiirdd…
 
There is a PLENARY Indulgence for those who read a Catholic Bible (Scripture) for at least 1/2 hour provided that the other conditions are met.

See “Manual of Indulgences” published by USCCB.

CCC: " 1471 The doctrine and practice of indulgences in the Church are closely linked to the effects of the sacrament of Penance.
What is an indulgence?
An indulgence is a remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven, which the faithful Christian who is duly disposed gains under certain prescribed conditions through the action of the Church which, as the minister of redemption, dispenses and applies with authority the treasury of the satisfactions of Christ and the saints.
An indulgence is partial or plenary according as it removes either part or all of the temporal punishment due to sin.
The faithful can gain indulgences for themselves or apply them to the dead."
 
I read scripture and also my brother does, but don’t know any other Catholics who do . Never have - and I’m old.
 
More Catholics should read scripture.

Pope Leo XIII granted an indulgence to all of the faithful who would spend 15 minutes reading the Bible. Vatican II concluded that these indulgences are still in force.
 
+When my children were little . . . *during each school year *. . . we had a marvelous women’s **Bible :bible1: Study *in our home church . . . that the good Lord abundantly blessed with growth and more growth and yet again . . . more growth . . . (with a nursery where each of the women in the study were . . . required . . . with generous motherly hearts . . . to take a turn at nursery team member duty) . . . and one of the women shared that a family friend . . . who is a priest *. . . had shared during a family supper that he . . . literally . . . had only one semester of Scripture Study in all the years he prepared for his priesthood at the seminary he attended . . .

The vast majority of middleaged and older priests active in our church today were raised up in environments quite similar to the above referenced priest . . . and unless the Lord had blessed them with a personal background and deep personal interest in** God’s** Holy Word . . . many just weren’t trained to honor and encourage the laity (or for that matter themselves) to reverence and seek out Scripture daily in any way . . . as the fount of continual Godly wisdom for eternal spiritual strength and nourishment outside of the daily pre-prepared Mass and pre-prepared Divine Office readings . . . fortunately our Wonderful Lord drew the Magesterium of our Apostolic Holy Roman Catholic Church to prepare and publish The Catechism of the Catholic Church . . . which lifts up Sacred Scripture mightly as essential for God’s children to live holy and spiritually healthy lives . . .
. . . :coffeeread: . . .
CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
PART ONE: THE PROFESSION OF FAITH
Article 2 - THE TRANSMISSION OF DIVINE REVELATION
81
Sacred Scripture
is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit.
Article 3 - SACRED SCRIPTURE
104
In Sacred Scripture, the Church constantly finds her nourishment and her strength, for she welcomes it ** not** as human word, "but as what it really is, the Word of God."

In the sacred books,
the Father who is in heaven
comes lovingly ❤️ to meet his children,
and talks with them.

:bible1: “How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them! If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand …” Psalms 139:17-18b​

:bible1: “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.” Isaiah 55:8​

:bible1: “So shall **my word **be that goeth forth out of **my **mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which **I **please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto **I **sent it.” Isaiah 55:11​

:bible1: “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but **my words **shall not pass away.” Matthew 24:35​

In Mother Angelica’s book Mother Angelica, The Remarkable Story of a Nun, Her Nerve, and a Network of Miracles . . . she delves into this troubling reality of Catholics and their knowing so little of the abundant riches of Sacred :bible1: Scripture . . . and her renown pursuit to encourage Catholics to open their Bibles and make constant daily use of . . . God’s Holy Word . . . to remedy this impoverished condition of Church members re ** Sacred Scripture** . . . through her Eternal Word Television Network apostolate . . . which apostolate God has so abundantly blessed that it now reaches millions upon millions of souls daily around the world . . .

. . . all for Jesus+
. . . thank You Blessed Lord+
. . . thank You Blessed Sweet Spirit of our Holy God+
. . . thank you Blessed Holy Mother Mary+
. . . thank you Blessed Holy Mother Church+
. . . thank You Blessed Dear Father God+
​
 
and you are able to judge this how? in what context?
Marie5890;8844350:
By conversations I have with them.
Annie, I think you and I went through this a few months back when I posited the same idea, that most Catholics don’t know scripture well and don’t read scripture outside of ltirugical settings (LoTH, Mass, etc).

I agree with the OP. In general conversation about faith and religion, most - not all but a majority of - Catholics are just not familiar with the Bible, the general structure of it and where Catholic beliefs come from. They can’t tell you in which book of the Bible david danced naked or which Gospel the anunciation is in.

Bring up the topic of specific Bible verses in general conversation and people’s eyes glass over.

-Tim-
 
Annie, I think you and I went through this a few months back when I posited the same idea, that most Catholics don’t know scripture well and don’t read scripture outside of ltirugical settings (LoTH, Mass, etc).

I agree with the OP. In general conversation about faith and religion, most - not all but a majority of - Catholics are just not familiar with the Bible, the general structure of it and where Catholic beliefs come from. They can’t tell you in which book of the Bible david danced naked or which Gospel the anunciation is in.

Bring up the topic of specific Bible verses in general conversation and people’s eyes glass over.

-Tim-
👍

We are hoping to start a Bible study in our parish for this reason.
 
I have a Catholic One Year Bible that I read almost daily. However, I would love to get into Bible studies and dig deeper into the word of God. The only thing is though, I want to make sure whatever I am studying is in line with the Catholic faith. In my area, I don’t know of any Bible study groups available. Are there good Bible study helps either online or in print that a person could do individually? I would be neat to have a group here on Catholic.com get together once a week and chat about what they are learning on their own. 😃

Peace! :gopray:
 
I have a Catholic One Year Bible that I read almost daily. However, I would love to get into Bible studies and dig deeper into the word of God. The only thing is though, I want to make sure whatever I am studying is in line with the Catholic faith. In my area, I don’t know of any Bible study groups available. Are there good Bible study helps either online or in print that a person could do individually? I would be neat to have a group here on Catholic.com get together once a week and chat about what they are learning on their own. 😃

Peace! :gopray:
+The marvelous solid little book . . . Mother Angelica’s Private and Pithy Lessons from the Scriptures . . . **edited by Raymond Arroyo **. . . is a compilation of Abbess Reverend Mother Angelica’s daily lessons to her nuns on **Sacred :bible1: Scripture **. . .

When starting out . . . individually or as a study group . . . it’s a good idea to first search out the Catechism’s particular and considerable teachings re what Sacred Scripture actually is in the life of the children of **God **as a primary consideration . . . and then utilizing this super little book which makes :bible1: Scripture immediately relatable to daily living . . . as taught by master teacher Mother Angelica . . . is certainly a worthwhile consideration for both individual and a study group’s formation and beginning of Scripture study . . . singly or for a group . . .

Just a couple of additional thoughts . . . :twocents: . . . always . . . saturate your study time with beginning and ending pray:gopray2:er . . . and as TimothyH encouraged . . . be sure that . . . whenever . . . a Scripture reference/passage is given . . . take time individually and/or as a group ** to patiently search out and find that particular reference in your own :bible1: Bible** . . . and if studying as a group . . . one by one . . . let them read individual passages aloud as they come up . . . Unless they are so encouraged . . . individuals won’t likely gain the easy ability and expertise they need to search and find passages on their own . . . *this is a basic step to learning to treasure and enjoy sitting at our **Beloved Lord’s **holy feet to learn of Him from God’s Holy :bible1: Word . . .

*(Just in case introduce them to the Table of Contents at the beginning and ending of both the **Old Testament **and the New Testament) . . .

*God bless . . . *

. . . all for Jesus+
. . . Sweet Spirit of our Holy God+
. . . guide and direct+
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There is a PLENARY Indulgence for those who read a Catholic Bible (Scripture) for at least 1/2 hour provided that the other conditions are met.

See “Manual of Indulgences” published by USCCB.

CCC: " 1471 The doctrine and practice of indulgences in the Church are closely linked to the effects of the sacrament of Penance.
What is an indulgence?
An indulgence is a remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven, which the faithful Christian who is duly disposed gains under certain prescribed conditions through the action of the Church which, as the minister of redemption, dispenses and applies with authority the treasury of the satisfactions of Christ and the saints.
An indulgence is partial or plenary according as it removes either part or all of the temporal punishment due to sin.
The faithful can gain indulgences for themselves or apply them to the dead."
where did you read that? id be interested if its true. it seems a little too good to be true.
 
+I was reminded this morning of the deep sweet . . . *ever flowing *. . . life giving river of grace of . . . Benedictine Spirituality . . . which holy way of life . . . for centuries . . . has practiced deep communion with our . . . Wonderful Holy God . . . through constant use of Sacred Scripture . . .

For some souls . . . **Sacred :bible1: Scripture ** . . . and the reading of other materials re Christianity and Catholicism . . . are approached from a very human mind-oriented/mental-intellectual approach and mindset . . . however . . . quite frankly . . . for my very simple soul in the Lord . . . graciously blest and immersed by our Lord in both Franciscan and Benedictine Catholic spiritualities . . . contemplative pray:gopray2:er and Lectio Divina (divine reading) . . . have always been my primary approach to growing in the sweet . . . Grace of God . . . and in Catholicism . . . day by day . . .

In these Catholic spiritualities . . . pray:gopray2:er . . . is essentially the **heart ❤️ ** of one’s soul “talking” to its God . . . on the other hand . . . meditation is taught in Sacred :bible1: Scripture and by our Holy Mother Catholic Church as essentially being the heart of one’s soul “listening” to its God . . . the ultimate goal of these actions of the soul being that at the center . . . of the deep interior quiet within the heart of the soul . . . the soul enters into . . . *constant holy conversation and communion with its God *. . .

Lectio Divina (divine reading) . . . is perhaps the clearest most well lit holy pathway I know of for the soul to “listen” to its God . . . essentially it is encountering God in the reading of a literary level of holy writings in Christendom believed to be especially blessed and anointed of God . . . first order and always primary of which is God’s . . . **Holy :bible1: Word **. . . Sacred Scripture . . . and which group of writings can also include . . . The Holy Rule of St. Benedict . . . The Catechism of the Catholic Church . . . The Baltimore Catechism . . . the Creeds . . . writings of the Fathers and Saints of the Church, etc., . . . and as such . . . when **prayerfully ** read and meditated upon the . . . **Holy Spirit **. . . Wonderful Counselor of Our God . . . is abundantly available to help regarding the reading, meditating and experiencing the understanding of same . . .

The holy Benedictine monk Archabbot Douglas R. Nowicki , O.S.B. of the Saint Vincent Archabbey in Latrobe, Pennsylvania here in the United States . . . recommends that we . . . slow down radically . . . when reflecting on inspired material . . . so as to . . . *open up freely *. . . to the treasury of insights contained therein . . . he goes on further to share with beautiful simplicity:

Lectio Divina (divine reading)
Archabbot Douglas R. Nowicki , O.S.B. (Order of St. Benedict)


“It is the **monastic insight **that reading, if it be authentic, cannot be undertaken simply with the eyes and the mind. Rather it must involve the whole person: mind, heart, body and spirit. It is reading not so much for information as for formation, that is, for encounter with the living God in this moment in such a way that one’s heart catches fire and one’s life is transformed … In St. Benedict’s day reading a sacred or spiritual text was practiced not so much for the sake of ‘information,’ but rather in order to be ‘formed’: that is, to be inwardly changed or shaped. …

Thus the aim of lectio divina (divine reading), i.e., pondering the material in a slow, prayerful way, is to dispose ourselves to welcome God’s ever-present grace and His efforts to conquer our hearts and transform us more and more into a holy people . . . ”
​

. . . all for Jesus+
. . . thank You Dear Blessed Lord+
. . . praise God from Whom all blessings flow+

:harp:
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