"Faithful Shepherds" - Where Does Your Bishop Stand? Website Rates The Bishops

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On the plus side, at least it is a nice list of the auxiliary bishops and eastern rite bishops for the metropolitan areas.
 
I’m happy we don’t (yet) have anything like this in the UK. This doesn’t seem a reliable or constructive way to increase accountability of bishops.
 
For goodness sake, this isn’t a list of who likes peas and who doesn’t. This is information for those who would like to know if their bishops are faithful to Catholic teaching, something that should be a given, but sadly in this world isn’t anymore. If they’re not faithful to Catholic teaching, something should be done about it. Why should they continue to mislead others? Catholics just desire transparency and reform.

That being said, it looks to be in its early stages. I’m sure the website will get more cleaned up as time goes on.
 
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It is by (name removed by moderator)ut from every random person.
 
misstherese said:
This is information for those who would like to know if their bishops are faithful to Catholic teaching, something that should be a given, but sadly in this world isn’t anymore.
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Determining if bishops are faithful stewards of their calling should not be abrogated to some website like lifesite news, or worse yet, to comments from random laity. Bad plan with a bad execution.
 
Hmmn, I think you are playing the game of semantics, and as such, confusing the issue.

The Oxford English Dictionary ‘Theological’ definitions of ‘Tradition’:- A doctrine believed to have divine authority, but not in the scriptures. - (as a mass noun in Christianity) - ‘doctrine not explicit, but held to be derived from the oral teachings of Christ and the Apostles.’

Much ‘tradition’ is based and recorded in/from letters of the early Founding Fathers, in how they themselves recorded what the Apostles said and did, and their own, and fellow early Christians believed, expressed and practiced the faith, from the earliest of days.
 
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I looked at several of the bishops I have had and many were stated to have not enough evidence. Many of them have given homilies on the posted topics. What counts as evidence? Who decides what is valid or invalid evidence? Criteria are not posted and thus I cannot take this site seriously.
 
When they say in favor of pro-life, does this also include the death penalty? The criteria are not posted. There is no standard stated for what counts as being faithful.
 
I hope this website referenced above goes down in flames. We are seeing Christ’s Church put on trial by public opinion. That is a bad bad road to go down.
 
misstherese said:
…If they’re not faithful to Catholic teaching, something should be done about it. …

…That being said, it looks to be in its early stages. I’m sure the website will get more cleaned up as time goes on.
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What is being done with these allegations?

So, some anonymous person sends in an accusatory postcard and then what happens?
 
Yes, but there is also much to be said by such early worthies about errant Heirarchy - the Church had them, even in the earliest of days; and it wasn’t always only about interpretation of the nature of Jesus. Even in Canon Law, the laity have the right to preserve their own souls from errant 'shepherds. Even if it was not in Canon Law, I believe our souls come first.
 
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Yes, but there is also much to be said by such early worthies about errant Heirarchy - the Church had them, even in the earliest of days; and it wasn’t always only about interpretation of the nature of Jesus. Even in Canon Law, the laity have the right to preserve their own souls from errant 'shepherds. Even if it was not in Canon Law, I believe our souls come first.
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Mmmmmmmmmm. :confused:

Returning to my quote .

"Take care to do all things in harmony with God, with the bishop presiding in the place of God.” (St Ignatius of Antioch)
 
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This is sick. And it’s a sign of the real sickness infesting the Church. Sweet Jesus, save us from schism.
 
What sort of person would put this out there? I am not a judge and jury. Prayers.
 
Teachings on homosexuality and LGBT stuff are evolving. Once the Catechism is updated to reflect the new teachings, where bishops stand on these particular issues will be clear since they, and all Catholics, will be required to accept said teachings. So those two items are prima facie irrelevant.
Why worry? It’s NCAA football time. Go Trojans!
 
Ah! Good eye! My guess was going to be Catholic Culture or some other simple database for the simple minded due to their oft cited Index Websiteorum Prohibitorum.

Edit: Looks like they don’t rate other websites for orthodoxy anymore. Man, I’m totally out of the loop, it appears.
 
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Do ‘we’ have to play poker with saintly ‘quotes’?

How about:
“It is better that scandals arise, than the truth is suppressed” (Pope St. Gregory the Great)
“I do not think there are many among Bishops that will be saved, but many more that perish.” (St. John Chrysostom, Homily III on Acts 1:12.2)
‘The road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops’ (attr. to St. John Eudes)

There are numerous others, if you care to search.

Oh, with reference to bad hierarchy, Saint Bernard says, “Your fall shall be like that of a thunderbolt which rushes headlong with vehement impetuosity”.

Rob - I have the greatest of deference and respect for all good clerics, especially the hierarchy - they are our spiritual ‘front line’ - they are also human, and Satan has them marked, and is all too ready to tempt them at any and every opportunity, he also wishes to groom them for the grooming of others - priests and bishops who avoid by prayer, and good example, are the ones the Evil One most hates, because they by their lives have surrounded themselves with the sanctity and protection of God - but that doesn’t stop him looking for even a ‘half possibility’ - as the Bible says, ‘he is like a prowling wolf’.

At our conceptions we are ALL given a place in Heaven by God, and another in Hell, by the Devil - this includes all clerics and religious, including all Popes. I believe that Saint Teresa of Avila was shown the place that Satan had prepared for her in Hell. In her case he was disappointed, in all too many cases he is not.
 
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