itsjustdave1988:
Even when you are shown to be incorrect, you can’t accept it.
You want to oppose John Paul II no matter what his
actual teaching was.
You seem intent, no matter the facts, on opposing the teaching of Christ to that of Christ’s Vicar.
Your thesis implies that we should think John Paul II merely signed the document without reviewing or approving its contents. Such a thesis is laughable.
Hello Dave,
I am not sure what you are saying here. I believe in Jesus teachings and His warnings of eternal damnation.
WARNING! Jesus Does Not Forgive All
Do we agree that Jesus many times warns people of eternal damnation for not caring for the poor? I did not hear Pope John Paul II repeating Jesus stern warnings of eternal damnation for those who do not care for the poor from the pulpit. Where are these stern warnings from Pope John Paul II? Please quote them. Can anyone else recall any stern warnings to Catholics from Pope John Paul II repeating Jesus warnings of eternal damnation?
Is not the Church (1.1 billion Catholics) just as guilty as the rich man in the Lazerous story when they murder the poor through failure to come up with enough charity dollers to feed and care for the poor?
Yes. I am sure if you dig through Pope John Paul II “actual teachings” you can find references that hell exists. What you will not find is Pope John Paul II warning Catholics to care for the poor or burn in hell as Jesus saw fit to sternly, loudly and oftenly preach.
LUK 16:19 The Rich Man and Lazarus
"There was a rich man who dressed in purple garments and fine linen and dined sumptuously each day. And lying at his door was a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who would gladly have eaten his fill of the scraps that fell from the rich man’s table. Dogs even used to come and lick his sores. When the poor man died, he was carried away by angels to the bosom of Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried, and
from the netherworld, where he was in torment, he raised his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. And he cried out, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me. Send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue,
for I am suffering torment in these flames.’ Abraham replied, ‘My child, remember that you received what was good during your lifetime while Lazarus likewise received what was bad; but now he is comforted here,** whereas you are tormented. Moreover, between us and you a great chasm is established to prevent anyone from crossing who might wish to go from our side to yours or from your side to ours**.’ He said, ‘Then I beg you, father, send him to my father’s house, for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they too come to this place of torment.’ But Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them.’ He said, ‘Oh no, father Abraham, but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ Then Abraham said, ‘If they will not listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone should rise from the dead.’"
NAB MAT 25:41
Then he will say to those on his left,
'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’ Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’ He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’
And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
