fake sugar a sin?

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I looked up “reprocutions” in the dictionary and couldn’t find it, so I’m not exactly sure what you meant. Did you mean consequences? Because there are health consequences to eating artificial sweeteners. It’s not just about calories. Calories, IMO, is the least of concerns, even if you are extremely obese. If you eat healthy food you will lose weight. It is health that matters more because health will take care of everything else, even body fat.
 
With so much sin in the world today, I truly doubt anyone is going to Hell for drinking a six-pack of diet coke. Really.
 
If fake sugar is a sin, then why is pepper moral? Any of the herbs and spices, for that matter? Nobody adds cinnamon to their cooking because it is *nutritious. *There is nothing immoral about enhancing the flavor of your food. This is a vale of tears, but not Hell itself. God gives us some legitimate pleasures…because a certain amount of pleasure is, in and of itself, a healthy thing.

OTOH, one has to keep in mind whether the fake sugar has a detrimental effect. There is every reason to believe that eating gobs of the stuff could have a bad effect, and for some sugar substitutes, there is scientific evidence for why you would restrict or avoid intake. If the sugar substitute is part of your efforts to give yourself a low-calorie diet in order to reach or maintain a healthy weight, though, and that little something sweet keeps you from eating what you clearly should not eat for health reasons, then that could be a very good thing for the care of your body.

Look at the big picture. Moderation is key.
 
The version I have heard is sugarless chewing gum. The point is that if one objects to contraception on the grounds that it thwarts the purpose of sex (having children), Then why is chewing sugarless gum and spitting it out, which which thwarts the purpose of eating (nutrition) acceptable?
One difference is that you can eat a little bit of diet candy, but you cannot be a little bit pregnant. As you said, sexual intercourse is a serious act whilst eating a bar of chocolate is not.

However I think we should be concerned at this growth in diet foods, designed to titillate the palette using chemical means, but in fact offering no nutrition. To begin with, they don’t tend to work. Obesity is a complex condition, and there are no quick fixes for the majorty of overweight people.

The diet foodstuff is the hallmark of a degenerate society. However the demand that food be “natural” or “organic” is also the hallmark of a degenerate society. People with full lives, and without genuine medical conditions, and past childhood, aren’t too bothered about what they eat. If someone is fussing that food must be this and that, they need more friends, more things to do in the church.

Basically, let the food companies make the food, and you shouldn’t really know whether it has artificial sweetners in it or not. You’ve got better things to do with your time.

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Funny. Pardon my nerdiness.

Lust is inordinate sexual desire.
Not all sexual desire is inordinate.
Therefore, reproduction is not necessarily dependent on lust.
What do you mean, “inordinate”? Jews believe that all creative acts are driven in part by an evil inclination. That it is necessary to have such inclinations in order for the world to go forward, as long as the actions one channels the inclination into are in accordance with Torah. i.e., lust as an element of being married, and being fruitful.
 
Be careful of Aspartame and Saccharin, the articificial sweeteners in drinks etc. They have been linked with cancer causing compounds in recent studies. I don’t know why people are so obsessed with the diet drinks then go and gorge themselves on an oversized pizza saturated with fat :rotfl:

nature.com/news/2005/051114/full/051114-15.html

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If fake sugar is a sin, then why is pepper moral? Any of the herbs and spices, for that matter? Nobody adds cinnamon to their cooking because it is *nutritious. *There is nothing immoral about enhancing the flavor of your food. This is a vale of tears, but not Hell itself. God gives us some legitimate pleasures…because a certain amount of pleasure is, in and of itself, a healthy thing.

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Herbs and spices are healthy, though. Cinnamon has been shown to be effective at lowering blood pressure. Cloves is often taken as part of a parasite cleanse and there are many other examples, of course. It’s at least a question of whether or not you know whether something is unhealthy and what you choose to do with that information.

Did you find that argument that pleasure is in and of itself a good thing in the Catechism? I’m not being sarcastic. I really want to know. Is that official church teaching?
 
Be careful of Aspartame and Saccharin, the articificial sweeteners in drinks etc. They have been linked with cancer causing compounds in recent studies. I don’t know why people are so obsessed with the diet drinks then go and gorge themselves on an oversized pizza saturated with fat :rotfl:

nature.com/news/2005/051114/full/051114-15.html

🙂
Trust the regulatory authorities that food is safe.

I’m a biochemist and I wouldn’t like to pronounce on the safety of aspartame - the two amino acids it contains are part of normal proteins and thus safe in themselves, but I am not entirely comfortable with the idea of taking in a huge excess of one dipeptide.

For me to express a qualified opinion I’d have to read the literature carefully for several days. If you are neither a biochemist nor epidemiologist, then you have no chance.

I cannot follow up every food scare. You almost certainly have better things to do with your time.
 
Be careful of Aspartame and Saccharin, the articificial sweeteners in drinks etc. They have been linked with cancer causing compounds in recent studies. I don’t know why people are so obsessed with the diet drinks then go and gorge themselves on an oversized pizza saturated with fat :rotfl:

nature.com/news/2005/051114/full/051114-15.html

🙂
Not to hijack the thread, but saturated fat is actually good for you, as is cholesterol. It’s the white flour, sugar, rancid vegetable oils and other highly processed non-foods that are killing us. Now, eating an entire “oversized” pizza isn’t good for anyone, but just wanted to point out that the white flour crust on that pizza (and the sugar and the refined salt or MSG and other chemicals) is infinitely more deadly than the fat from the cheese and meats. Unnatural sweeteners are bad for you mostly because they are just that: unnatural. There are certain primitive cultures around the world that have survived for millenia on animal foods loaded with fat and some natural carbohydrates properly prepared by soaking or sprouting or fermentation, and no sugar or white flour or trans fats of any kind. They are the healthiest people on the globe with virtually no cancer, heart disease, diabetes, tooth decay, you name it. It’s not the fat. It’s the convenience foods that are killing us.
 
Trust the regulatory authorities that food is safe.

For me to express a qualified opinion I’d have to read the literature carefully for several days. If you are neither a biochemist nor epidemiologist, then you have no chance.

I cannot follow up every food scare. You almost certainly have better things to do with your time.
I don’t think so. Sorry, but the FDA, NIH, AMA, FTC and so on are NOT trustworthy. There are almost always financial and third party interests at hand. If you care about your health, you have to do your own homework and take care of yourself. There is no other alternative. Just look at the health crises in America today. Everyone is sick with something. I’m most certainly not going to wait around for the FDA or whoever to tell me how to eat. I care about my health too much.
 
Herbs and spices are healthy, though. Cinnamon has been shown to be effective at lowering blood pressure. Cloves is often taken as part of a parasite cleanse and there are many other examples, of course. It’s at least a question of whether or not you know whether something is unhealthy and what you choose to do with that information.

Did you find that argument that pleasure is in and of itself a good thing in the Catechism? I’m not being sarcastic. I really want to know. Is that official church teaching?
People used cinnamon for thousands of years, and continue to use it, for reasons that have nothing to do with imagined health benefits other than making the food more enjoyable to eat. I use cloves on a periodic basis, but to the best of my knowledge, I’ve never had a parasite in my life, and wouldn’t treat it with cloves if I did. In other words, my herb and spice drawer has nothing to do with “health” benefits, except the benefit of knowing that Mom goes that little extra mile with the food, to let us know she loves us. The use of herbs and spices to enhance food and therefore to enhance our shared experience at the dinner table is a moral and commendable art, in and of itself.

From the website of the Holy See:
It is unnecessary for the Christian to be concerned about…avoiding imagined defilement through ascetical practices in regard to food and drink (Col 2:20-23). True Christian asceticism consists in the conquering of personal sins (Col 3:5-10) and the practice of love of neighbor in accordance with the standard set by Christ (Col 3:12-16).

As an example, consider Col 2:20-23: If with Christ you have died to cosmic forces, why should you be bound by rules that say, “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!” as though you were still living a life bounded by this world? Such prescriptions deal with things that perish in their use. They are based on merely human precepts and doctrines. While they make a certain show of wisdom in their affected piety, humility, and bodily austerity, their chief effect is that they indulge men’s pride.

I will spot you this, though: the danger to be avoided is setting up demands in the belly that interfere with the practice of love, either in the cook or in the diner. If I’m going to get all bent out of shape over some fine point of cooking or use my need to get a certain culinary result over my duty to love my family and others around me, that is a moral problem. If I train my family to put their appetites before the practice of love, that is a problem. Letting there be some fine points of cooking which require proportionate extra expenditures in time or ingredients is not.

Paul treats this with regards to the question of whether or not to eat meat of unknown origin, because of the possibility that it might have been sacrificed to idols, in Corinthians. His rule is that you don’t have to worry about what you eat except for when you offend the sensibilities of someone with scruples in that direction. Love is the overriding concern.

If I had a guest coming who had scruples concerning herbs and spices, I would come up with something to serve which depended on the flavors of the “nutritious” ingredients alone to season the dish. If we had someone coming who was a vegan or who kept kosher or halal, I would do my best to obtain food that met their requirements…and where possible, serve the same food to everybody. You do what you need to do in order to have the meal show hospitality to all those at the table. I think that is the main thing.

As far as the fake sugar goes, it can be a way for people who need to restrict their caloric intake to stay on the wagon. When it does not have a detrimental effect on health or on the person’s ability to love others, that is a legitimate use.
 
As far as the fake sugar goes, it can be a way for people who need to restrict their caloric intake to stay on the wagon. When it does not have a detrimental effect on health or on the person’s ability to love others, that is a legitimate use.
O good! Reading this thread whilst baking carrot muffins with Splenda for the good priests in the Rectory, both of whom are diabetic, had me worried:eek:

I’m confident now that they won’t be sinning while partaking of them, nor am I sinning by providing an occasion of sin to them.😃
 
O good! Reading this thread whilst baking carrot muffins with Splenda for the good priests in the Rectory, both of whom are diabetic, had me worried:eek:

I’m confident now that they won’t be sinning while partaking of them, nor am I sinning by providing an occasion of sin to them.😃
Bless your heart, you will not go without your reward. 👍
 
Just a random thought going through my head that im sure people can help me with… I understand that lust is bad because you are trying to seperate pleasure from the act of re-production. (among other reasons that its bad)

My head just continued that analysis though and wouldn’t that make diet soda, low-fat foot, etc serious sins? You are gaining pleasure without nutrition… you are gaining pleasure without getting full or as full as you should?

Obviously gluttony is a problem, but I wouldn’t consider a single diet coke gluttinous, but maybe it is.
you’ve got to be kidding me? right?

Everything in moderation. That about sums it up.
 
As for alcohol not being nutritious, beer and wine do have nutritional content other than the alcohol. And after all, Guiness is described as a “meal in a bottle.”
 
I don’t think so. Sorry, but the FDA, NIH, AMA, FTC and so on are NOT trustworthy. There are almost always financial and third party interests at hand. If you care about your health, you have to do your own homework and take care of yourself. There is no other alternative. Just look at the health crises in America today. Everyone is sick with something. I’m most certainly not going to wait around for the FDA or whoever to tell me how to eat. I care about my health too much.
I completely agree 🙂 I believe that an Eastern country (possibly sweden or switzerland) have restrictions on artificial sweeteners. Why not here?

I wish there were more people like you in the US to open people’s eyes. 😃
 
I don’t think so. Sorry, but the FDA, NIH, AMA, FTC and so on are NOT trustworthy. There are almost always financial and third party interests at hand. If you care about your health, you have to do your own homework and take care of yourself. There is no other alternative. Just look at the health crises in America today. Everyone is sick with something. I’m most certainly not going to wait around for the FDA or whoever to tell me how to eat. I care about my health too much.
I wouldn’t disagree that you can’t trust the government to be pure, nor to do your thinking for you.

Nevertheless…what do you mean everyone is sick with something? Not because they’re doing what the government suggests with regards to their food or lifestyle choices. As incomplete as the advice is to get exercise and follow the food pyramid, we’d be about 1,000 times better off if people did even that much. I am afraid to say it, but even the amount of truth sneaking out of the government is more than what most people want to hear!
 
I completely agree 🙂 I believe that an Eastern country (possibly sweden or switzerland) have restrictions on artificial sweeteners. Why not here?

I wish there were more people like you in the US to open people’s eyes. 😃
No one is saying that the US Food and Drug Administration is run by perfect people. But they are probably some of the best nutritional scientists in the world. You can trust that if they say a food is safe, then it is safe to eat it.
 
  1. Gluttony is overeating. Eating something because it tastes good is not gluttony.
  2. If eating fake sugar is a sin because in eating it you “are gaining pleasure without nutrition,” then eating real sugar would be a sin too. Neither is.
Agreed with both accounts; in reguard to #1, then even eating your favorite desert would be a sin since we all know it has no real nutritious value which cannot be provided by a meal of meat, fruit, vegetables, and bread/rice, except, of course, if you are allergic to the same. If desert didn’t taste good, we would have no real reason to eat it.
 
In regard to the OP’s inquiry, “[Is eating] fake sugar a sin?” I would say no, though you may wish to read the labels on the back concerning saccharin and the like. Quite frankly, I think it tastes better than real sugar.
 
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