False Prophets the most used comeback!

[Servant19]

Also, I’m not sure how you explain the harmony of Christianity and Islam with verses like this in the Quran 5: 51-

O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.

But then again, I’m not sure how Bahá’u’lláh didn’t know he was God Incarnate until he was thrown into an underground prison and then received revelations, or how he was the chosen one but didn’t even know the Bab until he was 27. Jesus knew Who He was the whole time, and so did others (see Luke 1 and 2).

Interesting how contradictory these things are. It’s almost like they’re all different religions that claim different absolute truths that are not compatible with one another. Oh, wait…

I think daler provided some great perspectives to consider above, PeaceInChrist…

There are plenty of harmonious points in the different Abrahamic religions.

It simply requires a change of min set to look with the eyes of unity rather than the eyes of separation and exclusivity. God judges us on our ability to do as such.

There are several aspects of the Quran which require historical context and I really believe that the quote you provided is one of those. Even in Paul’s Letters we see him referring to Judaism as the law of death. Does this mean that Moses and Jesus were in no way in harmony?



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[Servant19]

But then again, I’m not sure how Bahá’u’lláh didn’t know he was God Incarnate until he was thrown into an underground prison and then received revelations, or how he was the chosen one but didn’t even know the Bab until he was 27. Jesus knew Who He was the whole time, and so did others (see Luke 1 and 2).

May I humbly suggest that Baha’u’llah was fully aware of His Divine station BEFORE birth. There are several passages clearly indicating as such.

The symbolic moment of the Holy Spirit descending upon Him is detailed in the passage you outlined. This moment is also symbolically represent by the Dove descending upon Jesus.

These are symbolic representations, not historical moments necessarily.

Hope that helps advance your understanding dear friend

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[tonyfish58]

A Google search will do you well.

This is the pitfall of the Internet.

I could also Google the False Claims of Christ and come up with as many answers

There is only one way to tell the Truth and that is look at the Prophet and His Writings and make up your mind after fair and Just study of Them

If One reads the Koran after Looking at Muhammad’s Claim and Mission and Likewise the the Bab and His Words and Baha’u’llah and His Words you will be drawn to the fact you would have to draw the same conclusion you have with Christ.

That the One God sends His Messengers to mankind in the way that God Chooses and not us! These Messages are in reality One and the Same all given to bring us in ever advancing knowledge and ability towards the Love of God.

It has happened exactly as the Glorious Bible and Gospels have foretold! What a Bounty we can all share in, that is in the Love of God, after all that is what it is all about

God Bless and regards Tony

 

[PeaceInChrist]

So let’s see, we have these arguments:

1. Christians and Muslims essentially immediately apostasized after their leaders left.

Is that so? Why, then, does Catholicism have the written testimony of the early Church fathers to attest to its historical continuation? This argument is historically untenable. I can claim the same about the Baha’i: you all apostasized and are portraying a false teaching. This is the trend, anyway. I’m just going to wait for the next prophet to come around.

1. The Christians and Jews living in the Middle East deserved Muhammad’s wrath because they were not living like they should have been.

What about the Christian martyrs that we’re dying spreading the faith? Talk about a ‘blanket statement.’

1. Old Testament and End Times are bloody, therefore Muhammad is good.

Seriously? God established His kingdom through the old prophets, and this kingdom was to be forever and fulfilled in Christ. When Christ came, earthly judgement was turned into eternal judgement. God no longer ordered prophets to destroy people. Now the judgement would be in eternity.

1. Your prophet is another manifestation of god.

The Word was in the beginning, with God, and was God. So, no, Jesus is God, not another manifestation of Him. It even says that the Word was incarnate (made flesh). How can an unknowable God ‘manifest’ himself, anyway? He wasn’t incarnate, but manifested, even though to manifest is to make known, and according to you, God is unknowable. Hmmm…

1. Christians have done bad things. Therefore, their religion failed and God had to manifest again.

If God revealed a 90 degree right angle, and said ‘this is truth’, and eventually 95% of believers didn’t actually think it was, but went to worship a 130 degree angle, would that make faith in the 90 degree angle incorrect? If only 5% of Christians followed their faith, would this make the truth revealed by God any less true? So it is with revealed truth on faith and morals. Simply because a follower sins, doesn’t make the faith false. Talk about a blanket condemnation…

1. It takes an ‘open mind’ to understand these things.

It takes a disregard for logic, history, reasoning ability, and a clear rejection of contradictions in different faiths.

Sorry, Bahai people. I don’t think you’ve carried on your faith accurately. All you have are your scriptures. I think you are misinterpreting everything. I’ll wait for the next prophet. It seems to be a common theme, and I have as much logical evidence as you have that Christians and Muslims went apostate (none).

 

[Servant19]

Dear PeaceInChrist, have you read the entirety of the Quran at all?



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[tonyfish58]

So let’s see, we have these arguments:

1. Christians and Muslims essentially immediately apostasized after their leaders left.
2. The Christians and Jews living in the Middle East deserved Muhammad’s wrath because they were not living like they should have been.
3. Old Testament and End Times are bloody, therefore Muhammad is good.
4. Your prophet is another manifestation of god.
5. Christians have done bad things. Therefore, their religion failed and God had to manifest again.
6. It takes an ‘open mind’ to understand these things

PeaceInChrist - I would like to show how the questions you put forward with a series of answers can be viewed in a different light with Unity of thought and the Love of God in mind - Following are your questions posted with my observations based on Baha’i Thought.

1. Christians and Muslims essentially immediately apostatized after their leaders left.

Is there not warnings by our Beloved Christ that this might be so, could not this be the False Prophet and Deception Warning that Christ was telling us about.

But lets look at this with the Love of God in mind. If in fact this is so, then the deviation from scripture is understandable, it was to be so. This takes nothing away from the Love we have for all that have tried to lead us to Christ, even if they did not achieve the intended purpose. The thing is to learn from our past mistakes, and I say our mistakes because we are Human and every thing we do wrong has an effect on us all.

This is Gods Love, Love for all Creatures good or misguided

1. The Christians and Jews living in the Middle East deserved Muhammad’s wrath because they were not living like they should have been.

What is needed here is more study on the time of Muhammad and the battles fought for preservation of Gods Faith. One can not Judge Muhammad years after He has returned to whence He came, if we are to do that then Christianity also has to be judge the same.

The Bible and Koran both tell us to Live the Virtues and to Love one Another, it is our failure to do that that brings Justice from God upon us all.

The Bounty we have in this day is that War and Destruction have been explicitly removed from the Book - Peace as promised now attainable. There will be no Baha’i raising any anger against any People or Nation for whatever reason.

1. Old Testament and End Times are bloody, therefore Muhammad is good.

Muhammad stands upon His own Person and Book, which is in Reality the Words of the Bible also. The bloodshed and conflict as recorded in the Holy books and history, is because of our inability to appreciate Gods Word and live our lives accordingly.

1. Your prophet is another manifestation of god.

Yes Baha’u’llah proof is His own Person and His Word. To read these Word of God without preconceived ideas and prejudices is to fulfill the promises of the Bible and ones Covenant they have with Christ.

1. Christians have done bad things. Therefore, their religion failed and God had to manifest again.

It is not as simple as the explanation you have provided. The Love of God takes effort and understanding, it is a Bounty and Gift from God. History shows us that we get this Love mixed up with worldly attainments and ideas.

I would say that there were and still are many True Christians that do all for Christ out of True Love for Christ. But one must consider this was also inherent in the Jewish Belief, so why did they miss Christ?

No one can say except for God what the true intent is of any human being.

1. It takes an ‘open mind’ to understand these things

It may also require the Bounty of God

I would like to share this writing as it may help as to what is required for man to Know God

“The understanding of His words and the comprehension of the utterances of the Birds of Heaven are in no wise dependent upon human learning. They depend solely upon purity of heart, chastity of soul, and freedom of spirit”.

Link to page containing above quote - reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/KI/ki-7.html

God Bless and Regards Tony

 

[PeaceInChrist]

PeaceInChrist - I would like to show how the questions you put forward with a series of answers can be viewed in a different light with Unity of thought and the Love of God in mind - Following are your questions posted with my observations based on Baha’i Thought.

1. Christians and Muslims essentially immediately apostatized after their leaders left.

Is there not warnings by our Beloved Christ that this might be so, could not this be the False Prophet and Deception Warning that Christ was telling us about.

But lets look at this with the Love of God in mind. If in fact this is so, then the deviation from scripture is understandable, it was to be so. This takes nothing away from the Love we have for all that have tried to lead us to Christ, even if they did not achieve the intended purpose. The thing is to learn from our past mistakes, and I say our mistakes because we are Human and every thing we do wrong has an effect on us all.

This is Gods Love, Love for all Creatures good or misguided

1. The Christians and Jews living in the Middle East deserved Muhammad’s wrath because they were not living like they should have been.

What is needed here is more study on the time of Muhammad and the battles fought for preservation of Gods Faith. One can not Judge Muhammad years after He has returned to whence He came, if we are to do that then Christianity also has to be judge the same.

The Bible and Koran both tell us to Live the Virtues and to Love one Another, it is our failure to do that that brings Justice from God upon us all.

The Bounty we have in this day is that War and Destruction have been explicitly removed from the Book - Peace as promised now attainable. There will be no Baha’i raising any anger against any People or Nation for whatever reason.

1. Old Testament and End Times are bloody, therefore Muhammad is good.

Muhammad stands upon His own Person and Book, which is in Reality the Words of the Bible also. The bloodshed and conflict as recorded in the Holy books and history, is because of our inability to appreciate Gods Word and live our lives accordingly.

1. Your prophet is another manifestation of god.

Yes Baha’u’llah proof is His own Person and His Word. To read these Word of God without preconceived ideas and prejudices is to fulfill the promises of the Bible and ones Covenant they have with Christ.

1. Christians have done bad things. Therefore, their religion failed and God had to manifest again.

It is not as simple as the explanation you have provided. The Love of God takes effort and understanding, it is a Bounty and Gift from God. History shows us that we get this Love mixed up with worldly attainments and ideas.

I would say that there were and still are many True Christians that do all for Christ out of True Love for Christ. But one must consider this was also inherent in the Jewish Belief, so why did they miss Christ?

No one can say except for God what the true intent is of any human being.

1. It takes an ‘open mind’ to understand these things

It may also require the Bounty of God

I would like to share this writing as it may help as to what is required for man to Know God

“The understanding of His words and the comprehension of the utterances of the Birds of Heaven are in no wise dependent upon human learning. They depend solely upon purity of heart, chastity of soul, and freedom of spirit”.

Link to page containing above quote - reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/KI/ki-7.html

God Bless and Regards Tony

You literally responded to my concise summary of your own arguments, and not my responses to them.

 

[PeaceInChrist]

Dear PeaceInChrist, have you read the entirety of the Quran at all?



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The parts that you proof text to prove it is the same truth as the bible, or the actual Quran?

 

[Servant19]

The parts that you proof text to prove it is the same truth as the bible, or the actual Quran?

No the actual Quran…

 

[PeaceInChrist]

No the actual Quran…

Why is this pertinent in your addressing my questions/arguments? If ive read all of them in the original languages, or if I’ve read none, how would this change the validity of arguments?

 

[daler]

Why is this pertinent in your addressing my questions/arguments? If ive read all of them in the original languages, or if I’ve read none, how would this change the validity of arguments?

In and honorable court of law which seeks to arrive and a just decision, evidence is presented, research into the matter is required, freedom from prejudicial bias and preconceived notions must be set aside. Otherwise, an atmosphere of a kangaroo court is but a show designed to fulfill a foregone conclusion in order to assert ascendency over a perceived enemy.

What complicates the study and impartial treatment of Islam lies within two areas. The first pertains to the life of Muhammad, the thorough study of which attests to his nobility, generosity, forgiveness, truthfulness (admitted even by his attackers prior to His claim of becoming an Instrument of as An Apostle, and that the Revelation received by Him came from God, through the Angel Gabriel over the course of 23 years, from 610 AD, with the Calendar starting in 622 after the Hijra, or Flight to Medina. 1260 lunar years later corresponds to the many Biblical references regarding that date, by which time the Cycle of the Furqan was completed. This date is confirmed additionally as 42 months (of years) times 30 days, or 1260 years. Again 3 1/2 times, in Daniel, each time signifying 360 years, equalling the same number 1260. Again, it is in the form of 3 1/2 days, each day for a year in the Book of Prophecy in Enoch, concluding 1260 years after the Hijra, which is 1844 of the Christian Calendar, the Primary focus of the entire Adventist Movement of the mid-1800s.

. The second pertains to the corruption of Islam under the Ummayyads (the Beast of Revelation) who destroyed the very foundation of Islam, beginning their evil machinations of the very day of the death of the Prophet with the words of Umar, “Verily, the Book is sufficient unto us.”, wholly disregarding the appointment of Ali as the rightful Successor to the Prophet. That the former Meccan idolators feigned belief in Islam to position themselves to take over this movement for personal gain and temporal power is where the history records the gross and violent sins attributed to these evil men, who no more represent the true spirit of Islam than say, the KKK are representative of Christianity.

. A deep knowledge of history gained with impartiality reveal the truth of the above asserted evidence and is part of the records which are extent for those who truly wish to delve into the early period of Islam. My highest recommendation for you to read to educate your self comes from an impartial historian and in fact, a non-Muslim, by the name of H.M. Balyuzi and the Book is called “Muhammad and the Course of Islam.” It is available through Amazon: amazon.com/Muhammad-Course-Islam-H-Balyuzi/dp/0853984786

 

[PeaceInChrist]

In and honorable court of law which seeks to arrive and a just decision, evidence is presented, research into the matter is required, freedom from prejudicial bias and preconceived notions must be set aside. Otherwise, an atmosphere of a kangaroo court is but a show designed to fulfill a foregone conclusion in order to assert ascendency over a perceived enemy.

What complicates the study and impartial treatment of Islam lies within two areas. The first pertains to the life of Muhammad, the thorough study of which attests to his nobility, generosity, forgiveness, truthfulness (admitted even by his attackers prior to His claim of becoming an Instrument of as An Apostle, and that the Revelation received by Him came from God, through the Angel Gabriel over the course of 23 years, from 610 AD, with the Calendar starting in 622 after the Hijra, or Flight to Medina. 1260 lunar years later corresponds to the many Biblical references regarding that date, by which time the Cycle of the Furqan was completed. This date is confirmed additionally as 42 months (of years) times 30 days, or 1260 years. Again 3 1/2 times, in Daniel, each time signifying 360 years, equalling the same number 1260. Again, it is in the form of 3 1/2 days, each day for a year in the Book of Prophecy in Enoch, concluding 1260 years after the Hijra, which is 1844 of the Christian Calendar, the Primary focus of the entire Adventist Movement of the mid-1800s.

. The second pertains to the corruption of Islam under the Ummayyads (the Beast of Revelation) who destroyed the very foundation of Islam, beginning their evil machinations of the very day of the death of the Prophet with the words of Umar, “Verily, the Book is sufficient unto us.”, wholly disregarding the appointment of Ali as the rightful Successor to the Prophet. That the former Meccan idolators feigned belief in Islam to position themselves to take over this movement for personal gain and temporal power is where the history records the gross and violent sins attributed to these evil men, who no more represent the true spirit of Islam than say, the KKK are representative of Christianity.

. A deep knowledge of history gained with impartiality reveal the truth of the above asserted evidence and is part of the records which are extent for those who truly wish to delve into the early period of Islam. My highest recommendation for you to read to educate your self comes from an impartial historian and in fact, a non-Muslim, by the name of H.M. Balyuzi and the Book is called “Muhammad and the Course of Islam.” It is available through Amazon: amazon.com/Muhammad-Course-Islam-H-Balyuzi/dp/0853984786

That’s all fascinating. I’ll concede this: Muhammad was a good general and politically savvy. Can you answer my objections now?

You know what, forget it. I’ve read through more of this thread, and it’s just Bahai telling Christians that their interpretation of Scripture is wrong, even when shown all the history and tradition we have. Any contradiction between faiths and Scriptures becomes ignored or is explained away by some outlandish, ridiculous interpretation. Every faith went wrong right after the leader left (otherwise the Church Fathers would get in the way of your silly interpretations, and the followers of the Quran after Muhammad are somehow in the wrong, even though they simply continue his path of war and conversion). This is so incredibly arrogant to claim. Based on this pattern of history, the followers after your prophet went off course. So why should we believe you? You’re probably all apostate and have an improper interpretation of your own scriptures. The next prophet has probably already come. See what I did there? It’s what you do to every other faith.

I look forward to an actual answer to my post (692). But I’m done responding. Your interpretations of the bible are not above the fathers of the church, or even a common sense reading of them.

 

[Servant19]

That’s all fascinating. I’ll concede this: Muhammad was a good general and politically savvy. Can you answer my objections now?

You know what, forget it. I’ve read through more of this thread, and it’s just Bahai telling Christians that their interpretation of Scripture is wrong, even when shown all the history and tradition we have. Any contradiction between faiths and Scriptures becomes ignored or is explained away by some outlandish, ridiculous interpretation. Every faith went wrong right after the leader left (otherwise the Church Fathers would get in the way of your silly interpretations, and the followers of the Quran after Muhammad are somehow in the wrong, even though they simply continue his path of war and conversion). This is so incredibly arrogant to claim. Based on this pattern of history, the followers after your prophet went off course. So why should we believe you? You’re probably all apostate and have an improper interpretation of your own scriptures. The next prophet has probably already come. See what I did there? It’s what you do to every other faith.

I look forward to an actual answer to my post (692). But I’m done responding. Your interpretations of the bible are not above the fathers of the church, or even a common sense reading of them.

It is sad, terribly sad indeed that you have been fed so many lies which has contributed towards a mindset that will only look at distancing yourself from people that really only want love.

Humanity has a lot to answer for…



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[tonyfish58]

That’s all fascinating. I’ll concede this: Muhammad was a good general and politically savvy. Can you answer my objections now?

You know what, forget it. I’ve read through more of this thread, and it’s just Bahai telling Christians that their interpretation of Scripture is wrong, even when shown all the history and tradition we have. Any contradiction between faiths and Scriptures becomes ignored or is explained away by some outlandish, ridiculous interpretation. Every faith went wrong right after the leader left (otherwise the Church Fathers would get in the way of your silly interpretations, and the followers of the Quran after Muhammad are somehow in the wrong, even though they simply continue his path of war and conversion). This is so incredibly arrogant to claim. Based on this pattern of history, the followers after your prophet went off course. So why should we believe you? You’re probably all apostate and have an improper interpretation of your own scriptures. The next prophet has probably already come. See what I did there? It’s what you do to every other faith.

I look forward to an actual answer to my post (692). But I’m done responding. Your interpretations of the bible are not above the fathers of the church, or even a common sense reading of them.

PeaceInChrist - Shame we can not chat about the subject Just a parting note to consider.

Why has not the Baha’i Faith wandered from the path it is destined to follow to date!

This is because there is in this Dispensation of God, a Written Covenant by Baha’u’llah. This Covenant Appoints Successors and is very clear an unambiguous.

The line is the Son of Baha’u’llah, Abdul’Baha then the Covenant continues on to the Grandson of Abdul’Baha, Shoghi Effendi and then on to the Universal House of Justice. The path is clear and set. Anyone that rebukes this Authority rebukes God.

There will be no Major division of the Baha’i Faith, any splinter will just remain that, a few lone voices in the wilderness!

As you are aware the Bible states that on Peter the Church will be built, but it was not seen to be that clear and Major divisions was the result. The same was with Muhammad, it was His Grandson that was appointed but it was not clear and thus upon His death the Powerful rejected the Successor and split the Faith in Two.

The Bible tells us all this will be so.

They are not our interpretations, they are from God and thus worth considering, well in my opinion anyway

God Bless and Regards Tony

 

[tonyfish58]

1. Does being a military general and conqueror of Mecca not count as a gain??
2. If God ordered the destruction of any people, it was because they were unrepentant and held obstinately to opposing God. Scripture does attest to the Jews destroying these people, though hyperbole may have been used in exactly what they did. This was during the Old Covenants when God was still establishing His earthly people as a kingdom. This was also not for conversion (as for Muhammad) but for justice.

Then Jesus came, and told His disciples to go forth and baptize all nations. Not to conquer them by force. They were to be martyrs. Then we have Muhammad show up and revert to warfare, and not only that, but warfare for conversion and profit. Why? Why, when nations were converting to Christianity, would God make contradictory ‘truth’, send a ‘new prophet’, and have his prophet and successors become warlords??

If you want more about Muhammad’s military escapades, a Google search will do you well.

This Tablet from Baha’u’llah answers all those questions 100%

reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/KI/

If you really want to know, may I humbly suggest you have a read

This is the opening couple of passages, but when you venture further it explains all the complexities of religion in terms so magnificent it is uncannily easy to comprehend!

**IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD, THE EXALTED, THE MOST HIGH.

No man shall attain the shores of the ocean of true understanding except he be detached from all that is in heaven and on earth. Sanctify your souls, O ye peoples of the world, that haply ye may attain that station which God hath destined for you and enter thus the tabernacle which, according to the dispensations of Providence, hath been raised in the firmament of the Bayán.

The essence of these words is this: they that tread the path of faith, they that thirst for the wine of certitude, must cleanse themselves of all that is earthly—their ears from idle talk, their minds from vain imaginings, their hearts from worldly affections, their eyes from that which perisheth. They should put their trust in God, and, holding fast unto Him, follow in His way. Then will they be made worthy of the effulgent glories of the sun of divine knowledge and understanding, and become the recipients of a grace that is infinite and unseen, inasmuch as man can never hope to attain unto the knowledge of the All-Glorious, can never quaff from the stream of divine knowledge and wisdom, can never enter the abode of immortality, nor partake of the cup of divine nearness and favour, unless and until he ceases to regard the words and deeds of mortal men as a standard for the true understanding and recognition of God and His Prophets. **

If not God Bless and may God grant you Life Happiness and Fullness of Faith in Christ!

God Bless and Regards Tony

 

[PeaceInChrist]

PeaceInChrist - Shame we can not chat about the subject Just a parting note to consider.

Why has not the Baha’i Faith wandered from the path it is destined to follow to date!

This is because there is in this Dispensation of God, a Written Covenant by Baha’u’llah. This Covenant Appoints Successors and is very clear an unambiguous.

The line is the Son of Baha’u’llah, Abdul’Baha then the Covenant continues on to the Grandson of Abdul’Baha, Shoghi Effendi and then on to the Universal House of Justice. The path is clear and set. Anyone that rebukes this Authority rebukes God.

There will be no Major division of the Baha’i Faith, any splinter will just remain that, a few lone voices in the wilderness!

As you are aware the Bible states that on Peter the Church will be built, but it was not seen to be that clear and Major divisions was the result. The same was with Muhammad, it was His Grandson that was appointed but it was not clear and thus upon His death the Powerful rejected the Successor and split the Faith in Two.

The Bible tells us all this will be so.

They are not our interpretations, they are from God and thus worth considering, well in my opinion anyway

God Bless and Regards Tony

Lol, oh my. You don’t see the irony here? The Catholic Church claims it has the exact same protection, and it can be witnessed in the bible (council in acts 15, 1&2 Timothy when Paul talks about the authority he handed to Timothy). And now you claim that this promise from Christ is null, but yours is somehow good to go?!? Oh my lol. Read the church fathers. There was no apostasy. The Church cut off all the heretics eventually. I can’t believe what I’m reading.

Matthew 24:

29 ‘Immediately after the suffering of those days

the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from heaven,
and the powers of heaven will be shaken.
30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see “the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven” with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.’

Sorry, your manifestation of God just didn’t come with enough angels and trumpets. Oh lol

 

[PeaceInChrist]

It is sad, terribly sad indeed that you have been fed so many lies which has contributed towards a mindset that will only look at distancing yourself from people that really only want love.

Humanity has a lot to answer for…



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As does your ‘prophet’. I can’t believe these arguments…

 

[daler]

As does your ‘prophet’. I can’t believe these arguments…

That is the beauty of free will. Neither could the Pharisees… lol

 

[tonyfish58]

As does your ‘prophet’. I can’t believe these arguments…

Read Post 709

I will re post the quote, it will explain why you “can’t believe these arguments”

**IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD, THE EXALTED, THE MOST HIGH.

No man shall attain the shores of the ocean of true understanding except he be detached from all that is in heaven and on earth. Sanctify your souls, O ye peoples of the world, that haply ye may attain that station which God hath destined for you and enter thus the tabernacle which, according to the dispensations of Providence, hath been raised in the firmament of the Bayán.

The essence of these words is this: they that tread the path of faith, they that thirst for the wine of certitude, must cleanse themselves of all that is earthly—their ears from idle talk, their minds from vain imaginings, their hearts from worldly affections, their eyes from that which perisheth. They should put their trust in God, and, holding fast unto Him, follow in His way. Then will they be made worthy of the effulgent glories of the sun of divine knowledge and understanding, and become the recipients of a grace that is infinite and unseen, inasmuch as man can never hope to attain unto the knowledge of the All-Glorious, can never quaff from the stream of divine knowledge and wisdom, can never enter the abode of immortality, nor partake of the cup of divine nearness and favour, unless and until he ceases to regard the words and deeds of mortal men as a standard for the true understanding and recognition of God and His Prophets.**

God Bless and Regards Tony

 

[Servant19]

Lol, oh my. … Oh my lol. … Oh lol

I believe PeaceInChrist is enjoying himself a lot!

So I will join him in lol’ing with him.

Tony, daler, let’s all lol!!!

…though I did sense a small amount of in his last part.


(I do know one thing, God does not lol when we face Him and have rejected Him)

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