False Prophets the most used comeback!

[Catolico65]

Dear friend Catolic, can you show us one instance (just one ) where Baha’u’llah has rejected Jesus please?

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“Bahá’u’lláh explains that the “coming again” of Christ was fulfilled in the advent of the Báb and in His own coming.”

reference.bahai.org/en/t/je/BNE/bne-177.html

 

[Servant19]

“Bahá’u’lláh explains that the “coming again” of Christ was fulfilled in the advent of the Báb and in His own coming.”

reference.bahai.org/en/t/je/BNE/bne-177.html

…and how does that reject Jesus?

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[LilyM]

…and how does that reject Jesus?

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Because Jesus will come again ‘just as you saw Him go’, as the Bible says. As unmistakeably Himself.

Not in the form of any other person, and especially not as someone no Christian can possibly accept, having teachings so radically different from those of Christ.

 

[Servant19]

Because Jesus will come again ‘just as you saw Him go’, as the Bible says. As unmistakeably Himself.

Not in the form of any other person, and especially not as someone no Christian can possibly accept, having teachings so radically different from those of Christ.

What did He look like when He left? Do you know?

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[GaryTaylor]

The point is that its not about anyones “accounts” dear Gary.

Its about the Person of Divinity and what the Word that He expounds is…nothing else…

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So why should I believe Bahá’u’lláh over Mohammed? That wasn’t expounded to me, how about you? So why is what was expounded to you of more or less value than I or anyone else? You may be just flat out wrong. :

 

[Servant19]

So why should I believe Bahá’u’lláh over Mohammed? That wasn’t expounded to me, how about you? So why is what was expounded to you of more or less value than I or anyone else? You may be just flat out wrong. :

You shouldn’t believe Baha’u’llah over Muhammad. You should believe Baha’u’llah AND Muhammad over David Koresh and Rael (for example)

Looking sincerely at the “fruits” that came from the early beginnings of these religions will hopefully give you some clues on how to distinguish between Baha’u’llah and David Koresh.

If you can’t see a difference in the “fruits” then I cannot help you

I may well be flat out wrong, but any human being, including the Gospel Authors may be flat out wrong…

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[GaryTaylor]

You shouldn’t believe Baha’u’llah over Muhammad. You should believe Baha’u’llah AND Muhammad over David Koresh and Rael (for example).

I don’t believe any were anything other than mere men. Why should I believe Mohammed over Koresh?

Looking sincerely at the “fruits” that came from the early beginnings of these religions will hopefully give you some clues on how to distinguish between Baha’u’llah and David Koresh…

So some are good, honest and loyal as described above with a first grade teacher. So in your opinion Koresh and Mohammed are out of the running? Or does Mohammad fair better in the fruits department. What are these fruits, as you described above?

If you can’t see a difference in the “fruits” then I cannot help you .

Only fruits we have are as suggested. What else would be a qualifier? I think that needs to be addressed.

I may well be flat out wrong, but any human being, including the Gospel Authors may be flat out wrong…

We have a ways to go to determine? Mohammed was loyal, honest, good, or not as much so as Baha’u’llah and David Koresh? If Koresh was a false prophet then why isn’t Mohammed?

 

[Servant19]

I don’t believe any were anything other than mere men. Why should I believe Mohammed over Koresh?

So some are good, honest and loyal as described above with a first grade teacher. So in your opinion Koresh and Mohammed are out of the running? Or does Mohammad fair better in the fruits department. What are these fruits, as you described above?

Only fruits we have are as suggested. What else would be a qualifier? I think that needs to be addressed.

We have a ways to go to determine? Mohammed was loyal, honest, good, or not as much so as Baha’u’llah and David Koresh? If Koresh was a false prophet then why isn’t Mohammed?

Gary, what do you think convinced Peter to declare to Jesus that He was “the Messiah, the Son of the Living God”? (long before any resurrection I might add)

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[Amo_a_Jesus]

Nobody in the History of Human Kind Change the World The Way Jesus Did.

He is the one, The Alpha and the Omega, He will come back one day to be the Judge of all Humans, He is the King Of the Universe and His Kingdom will be Eternal. No one goes to Father if is not trough Him.
He is the Son Of God…
Amen

 

[LilyM]

What did He look like when He left? Do you know?

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Who says it is about what He looks like? He obviously looked different as a baby than as a grown man. But He was still the same person, and still is and always will be. His form was - is - that of Jesus of Nazareth. Son of Mary of Nazareth. And that is how He will return. Not the form of Baha’ullah of definitely-not-Nazareth son of definitely-not-Mary-of-Nazareth!

Jesus does not have multiple mothers and multiple places of birth. He did not believe in reincarnation. His second coming will not be as an entirely different person born of different mother in a different part of the world.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Gary, what do you think convinced Peter to declare to Jesus that He was “the Messiah, the Son of the Living God”? (long before any resurrection I might add)

What does that have to do with the fruits of Baha’u’llah, Koresh and Mohammed? You said by their fruits we would know them?

I thought we were comparing fruits and were determining what “exactly” those fruits are. I see a problem in the fruit dept.

What do you think convinced Mohammed he was the last prophet? What’s wrong with his fruits?

 

[kimg901]

We as catholics worship only God (The Trinity) and follow His Words. Why would you want to follow a mans teachings on what he thinks is right? I’m asking this in a good way because I’m not sure who Baha’u’llah is? To me it seems like you put your faith in a man instead of Jesus.

 

[Servant19]

What does that have to do with the fruits of Baha’u’llah, Koresh and Mohammed? You said by their fruits we would know them?

I thought we were comparing fruits and were determining what “exactly” those fruits are. I see a problem in the fruit dept.

What do you think convinced Mohammed he was the last prophet? What’s wrong with his fruits?

Dear friend, Gary.

“…by their fruits ye shall know them”

What do you understand by the word “fruits” in this context?

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[Servant19]

We as catholics worship only God (The Trinity) and follow His Words. Why would you want to follow a mans teachings on what he thinks is right? I’m asking this in a good way because I’m not sure who Baha’u’llah is? To me it seems like you put your faith in a man instead of Jesus.

My friend, it may be wise to investigate the life of the Bab first, and then read what He (the Bab) wrote about Baha’u’llah and His Divine station

You can read a brief summary of the Babs life here:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Báb

I assure you, He was no mere man

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[Judas_Thaddeus]

Well the Prophet must not contradict the Scriptures. Muhammad did, Baha’u’llah did, why
should we listen to them? The very fact that they are called prophets is incriminating in it
if itself, for Hebrews tells us that that in TIMES OF OLD God sent prophets, but in these
LAST DAYS God has spoken to us through his Son, Jesus.

The Bible, both Old & New Testament, clearly points out that Jesus is God Himself, the
Great I AM, the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth. Now comes along the so-called
prophet, suddenly Jesus is no longer God, but A god, or just a regular prophet, etc.

Consistency is a great indicator of truth,
and the Bible has been very consistent.
Come then the Qur’an, Book of Mormon,
\Writings of Baha’u’llah, Oahspe, how do
we know how to tell what is Truth?

We measure them using the Bible.

 

[Servant19]

Well the Prophet must not contradict the Scriptures. Muhammad did, Baha’u’llah did, why
should we listen to them? The very fact that they are called prophets is incriminating in it
if itself, for Hebrews tells us that that in TIMES OF OLD God sent prophets, but in these
LAST DAYS God has spoken to us through his Son, Jesus.

The Bible, both Old & New Testament, clearly points out that Jesus is God Himself, the
Great I AM, the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth. Now comes along the so-called
prophet, suddenly Jesus is no longer God, but A god, or just a regular prophet, etc.

Consistency is a great indicator of truth,
and the Bible has been very consistent.
Come then the Qur’an, Book of Mormon,
\Writings of Baha’u’llah, Oahspe, how do
we know how to tell what is Truth?

We measure them using the Bible.

Judas, are you really trying to say that when Paul called the Law of Moses “death”, that this is “consistency” and not a contradiction or an abrogation?

When Jesus changed the day of the sabbath, this was consistency?

That he declared all food as clean, this is not a contradiction?

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[Judas_Thaddeus]

Judas, are you really trying to say that when Paul called the Law of Moses “death”, that this is “consistency” and not a contradiction or an abrogation?

When Jesus changed the day of the sabbath, this was consistency?

That he declared all food as clean, this is not a contradiction?

If Paul had stopped there, saying nothing more, you may
have a point, but listen to more than one verse at a timeo not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For amen I say unto
you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. He therefore that shall break
one of these least commandments, and shall so teach men, shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. But he that
shall do and teach, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, that unless your justice abound more
than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
– (Matthew 5:17-20)
And Saint James says,And whosoever shall keep the whole law, but offend in one point, is become guilty of all.
– (James 2:10)
None of us can EVER please God enough to have eternal life.
We are all worthy of Hell, of pain and torment, of howling and
gnashing our teeth, for all eternity, being sinful as we are, but
Christ apparently has a solution (recall Matthew 5:17): There is now therefore no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus, who
walk not according to the flesh. For the Law of the spirit of life, in Christ Jesus,
hath delivered me from the Law of sin and of death.
– (Romans 8:1-2)

For the end of the Law is Christ, unto justice to every one that believeth.
– (Romans 10:4)
You have to read Paul’s letters VERY CAREFULLY, and better under
the guidance of the Roman Catholic Church, for Saint Peter gives us
a great warning:Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and
unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.
– (2 Peter 3:15-16)

 

[tonyfish58]

Nobody in the History of Human Kind Change the World The Way Jesus Did.

He is the one, The Alpha and the Omega, He will come back one day to be the Judge of all Humans, He is the King Of the Universe and His Kingdom will be Eternal. No one goes to Father if is not trough Him. He is the Son Of God…
Amen

What about the Muslim Nation! It was great! if you study History you will find that Christianity learned much from the Muslim Teachings, a heck of a lot!

Regards Tony

 

[tonyfish58]

A false prophets seeks glory for himself and not God this is one thing that is shown. As Jesus said to love The Lord your God with all your heart and soul. To also love your neighbor as you love yourself. The prophets all hang on this. So if a person lives a life in which is similar to that of other prophets we can tell this is true. Jesus however is greater than any prophet because he rose from the dead and HE FORGAVE SINS WHICH ONLY GOD CAN DO.

Then you have praised Baha’u’llah and His writings, Baha’u’llah lived, breathed and wrote “All glory be to God, the Lord of all worlds”.

Regards Tony.

 

[tonyfish58]

Tony the issue is very simple. Bahá’u’lláh knew of Christ and rejected Him and His teachings, thus is an antichrist, as well as Mohhamed and many others.

On the other hand, spiritual leaders who lived without the knowledge of the God of Abraham and Christ will be held to a different standard of judgment.

In effect, everything revolves around the awareness of the truth, ie if one doesn’t know the truth about Christ they cannot be judged as rejecting Him. It is the same concept of sin where an action is done that a person knows is wrong. However, if they do not know it is wrong there is no sin (assuming their conscience does not convict them of course).

This is simply not true, show me a passage where Baha’u’llah Rejects Jesus!

Or is your understanding that is rejected?

Regards Tony