Family, friends, and cohabitation/etc

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How are we to handle family members and others who are cohabitating, etc., when we have children?
My mother, who is a widow and is not Catholic has been living with her boyfriend for a number of years, since before my kids were born. Despite what you may think about cohabitators, she is a wonderful, loving person and a spectacular mom and grandma. I love her with all my heart and we are very close. She got very burned on a bad marriage, and doesn’t want to do it again. My husband and I agreed on how to handle the situation: When our children were old enough to understand the situation, we would explain to them that “as Catholics, we believe that couples shouldn’t live together without being married, and we believe that what Grandma is doing is wrong, but we still love her and we pray for her. It’s a sad fact of life that the people we love don’t always behave the way we want them to.” This is what we have done. They seem to understand it fine. My kids are now almost 9 and 6, and they are very close to Grandma and we have continued to reinforce our beliefs about cohabitation on appropriate occasions, and plan to continue to do so.
Until I came to CAF, I believed we were doing the right thing.
However, I have read a some threads about family members cohabitating, and it seems that a lot of advice has been given that kids shouldn’t be exposed to this at all, under any circumstances. Obviously, with my kids it’s too late for that, they have been exposed and they know how we feel. But have we done something terribly wrong in handling it this way? 😦 Should my kids not be allowed to spend time at their grandma’s house? That would hurt everyone involved terribly. Also, it isn’t just my mom–there are other people in my children’s lives who are cohabitating, divorced/remarried, or have kids out of wedlock. Many don’t go to church. Maybe y’all have families where everyone is doing everything right in this regard, but we do not. These people are around at family events, and my kids are old enough that hiding this stuff isn’t really possible. My kids also have friends at school where the dad is living with a girlfriend, or mom recently had a baby without being married, or whatnot. I have continued to reinforce our beliefs about these things to our kids, while explaining the concept of “hate the sin but love the sinner.” But I have never felt it necessary to forbid my kids from seeing these family members or being friends with kids who are in these situations. I really don’t see how it could be possible unless you lock your kids in the basement, never let them read a book, watch a movie, play with friends, see most of their extended family members, play a sport, or go to school. Our families and community are a mix of practicing Catholics, non-practicing Catholics, protestants of various kinds, and non-religious people.
How do you handle these situations? Am I sinning terribly if I continue to let my kids spend time with their grandma, and/or otherwise be exposed to people who are doing things we as Catholics don’t approve of? I am very concerned that cutting all of these people out of my kids’ lives (if that were even really possible) would be a recipe for rebellion against the Church when they get older.
it’s also possible I am reading too much into the threads that I read–most of them involved children younger than mine, and a question like whether to go with those young children to a dinner at a cohabiting cousin’s house. Perhaps what I am asking is different?
 
FWIW I think you are handling this beautifully in a way your children can understand. I think it would do them a great disservice to have them miss out on a wonderful loving grandma AND the interaction between you and your mother as well. I think its important for children to get as much genuine love and care as possible. I think you are also being very smart in taking teachable moments that not only reflect your mores and church teachings but that will serve them well in life. Indeed there will be wonderful, loving people who do not live as we may want across the board, you are teaching them real life skills on how to maintain relationships without alienating people who don’t make the same choices as we do. It’s a big tightrope walk and from you’ve written here, I think you are approaching it well.
 
I don’t see how it’s a sin to spend time at a house where people are co-habitating. If my kids were not permitted to be around sinners, then they couldn’t live at my house, because I’m a sinner.
In the case you describe, I personally draw the line at specifically celebrating that living arrangement. I would only decline the invitation if it were a house-warming party for them, or something else that specifically celebrates their living arrangement.
 
This is a good question, and one that is important that we all take into consideration very carefully and thoughtfully.

The most difficult thing is to try to explain why the Church teaches what it does and what the ultimate dangers are to their eternal souls. How do you explain that one without sounding like a big ol’ judgmental meanie? What a terrible thing to say about loveable, smiling, happy Granny and her boyfriend! 🤷

My biggest struggle with my kids has always been the inevitable, “If it’s okay for them why isn’t it okay for us?” What’s the response when your grown son or daughter wants to live with their special someone? How to you explain one set of rules for one and not for the other? Why the exception?

It’s hard. It was the hardest thing of all dealing with these issues. And it’s all on our shoulders as Catholics.
 
Yes you are reading to much into these post. Sounds like you are doing things perfectly. Teaching your kids right from wrong AND teaches them not to judge.

I think what other post might have been saying is ‘Grandma is telling my kids I am wrong’. It does not sound like that is your situation
 
Hi! I’m new to this forum, so I haven’t read a lot of the posts you’re referring to. But I have to say that the way you’ve shown the love of Christ to both your children (by explaining to them the value of marriage) and your mother (by communicating that you love her, want her in your children’s lives, and remaining firm on your position regarding cohabitation) is remarkable.

I’ve never been in this situation before, and I suspect there are strong opinions about what you should and shouldn’t do. But one thing I think everyone might be able to agree on is that you are doing your very best to demonstrate your faith and love to everyone involved. God bless you! :clapping:
 
My biggest struggle with my kids has always been the inevitable, “If it’s okay for them why isn’t it okay for us?”
Simple. “It’s not ok. It isn’t ok for them and it’s not ok for you. It’s a sinful choice made by someone we care about, but that doesn’t make it ok.”

What’s the response when your grown son or daughter wants to live with their special someone?
Part of raising kids is that you do your best and hope they get it. Once they’re grown all you can do is give opinions and advice while making it very clear how you feel about living together before marriage.

How to you explain one set of rules for one and not for the other? Why the exception?
Using the cohabitation example, there aren’t two sets of rules or any exceptions. There is one set of rules and there are people who obey them and people who do not. If you’re more liberal or more tolerant you can simply explain that other people live by a different set of rules according to their own beliefs and conscience.
I think the OP is handling this the best way possible.

The reality is that if we didn’t allow our kids around people who were married, divorced, and remarried or who had kids out of wedlock or who cohabitat they’d have an awful small group of people in their lives. They’d also be in for a huge shock when they get a bit older and start making friends on their own or when they leave home and go out into the world.

Sometimes kids learn the right thing to do and the reason they should do it from watching the struggles of people who have made mistakes.
 
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