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HelenRose said:
I praise God for the Catholics who come to Church for Christmas and Easter. Their candle still flickers and when our Choir sings we sing praise of gratitude that they are here and hopefully we can gently fan a new fire in their hearts.

I have no, none, zilch use for the constant self righteous attitude of some (not all and perhaps only a very few) people who sit in the pews and congratulate themselves on their attendance.
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We can either seek to draw them closer, or act to drive them away. And Pope Francis seems to be our guide in drawing people back to the Faith.
 
otjm said:
Given that only somewhere between 20% and 30% of Catholics attend mass on a regular basis, and catechesis pretty much went into the toilet (and then it flushed) about 2 generations ago, I would be a little less enthusiastic about proclaiming how many Catholics (as in, baptized, and not having renounced the Faith) know what the Catholic Church teaches about any given subject.

Some of these folks wander into a church on a random basis (and wander out again) with almost no other contact. They are primarily “cultural Catholics” in that they may respond “yes” to a survey, but they are essentially non-participatory.

Some of them undoubtedly do know what the Church teaches, at least in part. But I wouldn’t be putting good money on a bet about what they know about marriage, divorce, and Church rules.
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You may be right but this particular topic has been pretty well publicised over at least the past year due to the Synod, and not just in Catholic media. It has appeared regularly on BBC and CNN and all the national newspapers I have read.
It would certainly made known to them if they are divorced and want to remarry in the Church and they would be told no not without an annulment and that they may not receive Communion without Confession and a cessation of all sexual activity (in short live like brother and sister until annulment goes through).
 
thistle said:
You may be right but this particular topic has been pretty well publicised over at least the past year due to the Synod, and not just in Catholic media. It has appeared regularly on BBC and CNN and all the national newspapers I have read.
It would certainly made known to them if they are divorced and want to remarry in the Church and they would be told no not without an annulment and that they may not receive Communion without Confession and a cessation of all sexual activity (in short live like brother and sister until annulment goes through).
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So what then exactly is the issue for the Synod? What are they looking at for annulments in the Church? If all this is clear.
 
billcu1 said:
So what then exactly is the issue for the Synod? What are they looking at for annulments in the Church? If all this is clear.
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It does not matter that the Church teaching is clear. Some people, including Bishops, want it changed. What they want is for divorced persons now in a new (non-platonic) relationship to be able to receive Communion without requiring an annulment.
 
billcu1 said:
So what then exactly is the issue for the Synod? What are they looking at for annulments in the Church? If all this is clear.
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It isn’t entirely clear, but it seems the recommendation of the synod was to attempt to find an acceptable way for Catholics in this situation who have not been granted an annullment to reconcile with the Church. This would possibly entail the use of the internal forum but in consultation with a priest acting under the direction of his bishop.

I do not believe there was a recommendation that persons who have not reconcilled with the Church should be permitted to receive communion.
 
My understanding is the Pope Francis intends to issue an apostolic exhortation sometime in early 2016 which will set forth what changes (if any) are to be made as a result of the Synods.
 
thistle said:
It does not matter that the Church teaching is clear. Some people, including Bishops, want it changed. What they want is for divorced persons now in a new (non-platonic) relationship to be able to receive Communion without requiring an annulment.
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Oh I see. OK. Would that be good? I wouldn’t know. Would it be against Jesus’ teachings? That would be bad.
 
thistle said:
You may be right but this particular topic has been pretty well publicised over at least the past year due to the Synod, and not just in Catholic media. It has appeared regularly on BBC and CNN and all the national newspapers I have read.
It would certainly made known to them if they are divorced and want to remarry in the Church and they would be told no not without an annulment and that they may not receive Communion without Confession and a cessation of all sexual activity (in short live like brother and sister until annulment goes through).
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You have read about the synod with the eyes of one who is faithful. And that has created a filter of which you may not be aware.

The secular press pretty much got it backwards, upside down, or inside out as to what was going on in the Synod; most reporters and editors repeatedly show an ignorance of the Catholic Faith that is about overwhelming - or should I say, underwhelming?

I actually have worked, for a number of years, with people who wish to return to the Faith; and I can say from repeated (and repeated, and repeated) experience, that they are abysmally ignorant of their Church and its teachings. I wouldn’t put a stitch of faith in most non-engaged Catholics learning anything from what was reported by the secular press, and they are not likely to have even come across any Catholic press treatment - let alone read it.
 
Pope will issue writing in March…
The Pope is expected to release a final document on the conclusions of the synods sometime this spring.

In a Dec. 29 interview with L’Osservatore Romano’s Italian edition, the secretary general of the Synod of Bishops, Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, confirmed that the Pope’s document will take the traditional form of an apostolic exhortation.

Though the exact date has not been announced, sources close to CNA say the document will be published in March, which falls just before the first meeting of the new synod council in April.

Read more: ncregister.com/daily-news/what-pope-francis-book-could-tell-us-about-the-upcoming-synod-document/#ixzz3xHDNRqZv

ncregister.com/daily-news/what-pope-francis-book-could-tell-us-about-the-upcoming-synod-document/
 
All who are reading this thread should keep in mind that while there were two hot topics - questions about divorced and remarried couples who had not obtained (and apparently had not been able to obtain) a decree of nullity, and homosexuals in (civil unions - often so-called marriages), that these were just two of the topics covered. The synod was about the family, and the press made much of the two topics to the point where it seemed this was all that the synod covered.

It wasn’t.
 
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