Family Trees Of Prophets

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Hello Everyone :), I have good news for everyone. See from your own dartabligh.org/prophets/familytree.html eyes how close world biggest religion are related i.e, Judaism, Christianity and Islam. This tree will prove that Prophet Muhammad pbuh is the last messenger. All prophecy of God/Allah ends here. No one will come with Allah/God message now to this world.

Please tell your view about this post. May peace and blessing with you all.
 
Salaam. Very interesting, but i my mind it proves nothing.

On another note. Aren’t Muslims taught Noah (Nuh) had three sons, as we are. Shem, Ham and Japeth, On that chart I see only two-Sam and Yafid.
 
Interesting. One question that I have, aside from the sons of Noah, is the name before Maryam. I thought the father of Mary was Joachim, not Heli. Is this the same person?
 
Hi tomshaikh,

One of the tenets of Islam is that “there is no God but Allah, and Muhammed is his messenger”. I’m not sure why Muhammed is now referred to as a prophet; I mean, he didn’t leave us - or fulfill - any prophecy.

And the family tree doesn’t prove that Muhammed was prophet nor messenger.

But, welcome to the forums. I hope you learn about prophecy and what constitutes divinely inspired scripture. I hope you learn about miracles and Tradition. And I hope you can teach me what defines an Islamic prophet.
 
ralphinal said:
Interesting. One question that I have, aside from the sons of Noah, is the name before Maryam. I thought the father of Mary was Joachim, not Heli. Is this the same person?
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Mary’s father was Imran, sometimes referred to as Heli.
 
tomshaikh said:
This tree will prove that Prophet Muhammad pbuh is the last messenger. All prophecy of God/Allah ends here. No one will come with Allah/God message now to this world.
Please tell your view about this post. May peace and blessing with you all.
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Hi

I think your perception , in my opinion, needs to be rephrased. It is correct that Muhammad is Khatamun Nabiyyeen as stated by you he is the last MessengerProphet, but he never said or Quran mentioned that “All prophecy of God/Allah ends here” with him. In fact, in my opinion, he himself prophesised that the PromisedMessiah would come here as one of his Caliphs in the end of times:

Yushaku man aasha minkum ianyulka eisabna maryama imamun mahduyyun , hakamun iadualun yakserus saleba wa yaktulul khinzera

One who would be alive (at that time), he would meet Issa (JesusYeshua) s/o Maryam (MaryMerium) in the position of ImamMahdi (DivineGuided), a truthful judge (among faiths/religions); he would break the Cross (with arguments) and kill the swine. (Masnad Ahmad 156/2)

Abu Hurairah narrated from the Prophet Muhammad SAW that he said:
I swear by Him in whose hands rests my life or death that you would definitely witness advent of the Ibne Maryam (Son of Mary); a truthful judge (among faiths/religions), he would break the Cross (with arguments) and kill the swine and suspend the war (for religious conversion).
(Bukhari Kitabul Anbeya, Bab Nazul-e Essa Ibne Maryam)

So, the Prophecy continues, but only amongst his followers.

Thanks
 
tawheedah said:
Mary’s father was Imran, sometimes referred to as Heli.
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Do you have a non-Muslim source for this? I did some searching last night and found that Heli may in fact be a form of Joachim as they have the same root in the old language. Where did Imran come from?
 
ralphinal said:
Do you have a non-Muslim source for this? I did some searching last night and found that Heli may in fact be a form of Joachim as they have the same root in the old language. Where did Imran come from?
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I don’t have a non-muslim source for this, I have the Quran that tells me that Imran is the father of Mary, and the wife of Imran (Mary’s mother) pledged her unborn child to serve Allah SWT…

Oh wait… here’s a “non-muslim” (false islam bashing) source for you:

prophetofdoom.net/Who_is_Yahweh.Islam

"According to Allah, Imran was Mary’s father, and that’s a problem. The Bible says Mary’s father was Heli in Luke 3:24. Imran isn’t a Hebrew name, but Amram is. Numbers 26:59 identifies him as the father of Moses, Aaron, and Miriam. This misunderstanding may be why Allah, in Qur’an 19:28, calls Mary “Miriam, the sister of Aaron.” As such she would have been over 1,200 years old when Christ was born. And while that’s bad, the verse begins with “remember,” yet there was no prior “Imran” revelation. Qur’an 3.35 “Remember, when the wife of Imran prayed: ‘Lord, I offer what I carry in my womb in dedication to Your service, accept it, for You are the Hearer, the Knower.’ And when she had given birth, she said: ‘O my Lord I have delivered but a girl, a female child.’ [Remember: girls are worthless in Islam apart from luring boys to their doom.] But Allah knew better what she had delivered: ‘The male is not like the female, and I have named her Mariam (Mary).’”
 
Well, I did not want a anti-Muslim source. Thank you for identifying it as such. Heli is in the Bible as the Father. It may be the same name as Joachim. They have the same root. Imran is a new one to me. I will study this more.

How about Noah only showing two sons instead of the three in the Bible?
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi

I think your perception , in my opinion, needs to be rephrased. It is correct that Muhammad…

Thanks
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Dear Paarsurrey :), I said Prophecy not Imamat or Caliphate.What ever you are sunni, shia or other sects. Peace and Blessing to All Viewers.
 
LDNCatholic said:
Salaam. Very interesting, but i my mind it proves nothing.

On another note. Aren’t Muslims taught Noah (Nuh) had three sons, as we are. Shem, Ham and Japeth, On that chart I see only two-Sam and Yafid.
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Walikum, Sorry to answer you late. Well one of them were not listening to his Father (Noah) Nuh. So he got drawn in the flood. May be thats why there is no mention for third one. Quran is not specific in that like Bible told you guyz about every son and daughter of Adam.
 
When the Qur’an refers to Mary’s mother as ‘a woman of Imran’ it means she’s descended from Imran father of Moses, not that that’s the name of her husband (as is often misconstrued).
 
Kadaveri said:
When the Qur’an refers to Mary’s mother as ‘a woman of Imran’ it means she’s descended from Imran father of Moses, not that that’s the name of her husband (as is often misconstrued).
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Correction:

The Koran does not refer to Mary’s mother as “a woman of Imran”, but as “the wife of Imran”.

The word the Islamic Scripture uses with regard to Mary’s mother in 3: 35 is the same as the word used with regard to Pharaoh’s wife and the Egyptian ruler’s wife in the relevant chapters!

3: 35. (Remember) when the wife of 'Imran said: My Lord! I have vowed unto Thee that which is in my belly as a consecrated (offering). Accept it from me. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower!

28: 9. And **the wife of Pharaoh **said: (He will be) a consolation for me and for thee. Kill him not. Peradventure he may be of use to us, or we may choose him for a son. And they perceived not.

12: 21. And he of Egypt who purchased him said unto his wife: Receive him honourably.

According to the Koran, Mary was Imran’s biological daughter and Aaron’s sister.

Peace to all,
Angelos N.B.
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi

I think your perception , in my opinion, needs to be rephrased. It is correct that Muhammad is Khatamun Nabiyyeen as stated by you he is the last MessengerProphet, but he never said or Quran mentioned that “All prophecy of God/Allah ends here” with him. In fact, in my opinion, he himself prophesised that the PromisedMessiah would come here as one of his Caliphs in the end of times:

Dear Paar,

My knowledge about Islam is very limited. You have asked us many questions about our belief. Now, can I ask you a question. As far as I learn from my beloved Hajj grandfather (actually the brother of my grandma), that Muhammad is the last prophet. You agree that Muhammad is the last MessengerProphet in your word which I highlighted. Quran as you believe is the word from Jibril who dictated his message to Muhammad. Although Quran as you say did not stated that “All phrophecy of God/Allah ends here” with Muhammad, why do you conclude that there should be another ProphetMessenger after Muhammad? You should provide the explanation based on the Quran, should you not? Definitely not from any other person’s interpretation, including your ProphetMessenger.
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swariffin said:
Dear Paar,

My knowledge about Islam is very limited. You have asked us many questions about our belief. Now, can I ask you a question. As far as I learn from my beloved Hajj grandfather (actually the brother of my grandma), that Muhammad is the last prophet. You agree that Muhammad is the last MessengerProphet in your word which I highlighted. Quran as you believe is the word from Jibril who dictated his message to Muhammad. Although Quran as you say did not stated that “All phrophecy of God/Allah ends here” with Muhammad, why do you conclude that there should be another ProphetMessenger after Muhammad? You should provide the explanation based on the Quran, should you not? Definitely not from any other person’s interpretation, including your ProphetMessenger.
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Hello Swar,

Well you didnot get what his/her meaning. Infact he/she didnot get what i mean in my first post message. Some people are not aware of what Prophet and Prophecy mean. Prophecy means that New Prophet to come in this world. Prophecy does not mean like that what Prophet told to his people will one day come true. Most of the people think its my second point of view which i mentioned above.

Like we Sunni and Shia muslims believes that Imam Mahdi will come in the last days and one of his coming back sign is that Sun will rises from west instead of east. Where as Paar who is Ahmadi religion believes that Imam Mahdi and Jesus come already Who Paar believes in and that person name was Gullum Mirza Qadian. Which Pakistan and Saudi Government declared that they are not Muslims.

You understand my previous post means but Paar didn’t. Hope i clear both of you.
 
I find it interesting that you feel the sun will rise in the west-that must have a great significance-

kind of like the east wind that blew all night at the edge of the Red Sea before the journey across it by the Jews leaving Egypt-a wind that does not come from the east in that part of the world!
 
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