Fascinating article by a writer who wore a priestly cassock for a day in a large US city

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people are free to vote as they choose

but being “highly catholic” is not voting for pro-abortion candidates, as chicago does time & time & time again…
 
You’re right; this article IS interesting!

I found the results of Tom Chiarella’s experiment. The reactions he got shows that Priests are still respected individuals whom people look to for moral guidance and for spiritual aid. I especially like the effects it had on Mr. Chiarella: he was sad that he couldn’t give blessings to people who asked them of him, and he ended up giving a hundred dollars worth of $10 bills to homeless people asking him for prayer.
I also appreciate how he didn’t lie about being a Priest. If anyone asked him, he’d admit that he was only dressed as one.
The only negative part was when a woman flipped him off over a denominational difference (she thought Mr. Chiarella was the wrong type of Orthodox).

It was humorous when a woman videotaped him drinking at the bar: Priests don’t actually have to abstain from alcohol, so unless he was getting drunk he wouldn’t have been doing anything wrong.
 
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BornInMarch said:
The only negative part was when a woman flipped him off over a denominational difference (she thought Mr. Chiarella was the wrong type of Orthodox).
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I doubt she used a middle finger. Based on the wording, she was using her index finger most likely.
BornInMarch said:
It was humorous when a woman videotaped him drinking at the bar: Priests don’t actually have to abstain from alcohol, so unless he was getting drunk he wouldn’t have been doing anything wrong.
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Slugging down a boilermaker at 10:30 AM is a bit much…
 
brian_custer said:
people are free to vote as they choose

but being “highly catholic” is not voting for pro-abortion candidates, as chicago does time & time & time again…
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Like it or not, down deep, Chicago is HIGHLY Catholic.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
I don’t know how things are in Houston or Atlanta, although “Mattress Mack” seems to have spread a lot of Catholic goodwill in Houston lately.
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It would be well received, though I hope he doesn’t. I do not go in for this sort of shim-sham fakery.
 
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I just see it as man-on-the-street journalism, given that he did not try to usurp any priestly duties. I am always happy to see a reporter go out and get a story as opposed to sitting in Starbucks throwing three twitter feeds together and calling it news.
 
pnewton said:
It would be well received, though I hope he doesn’t. I do not go in for this sort of shim-sham fakery.
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There was nothing wrong with what the writer did. Nothing at all. He never lied and said he was a priest. His efforts gave a tiny bit insight into what an average priest experiences in their daily lives – at least if they wore a cassock. I’m glad he did what he did, because I appreciate and learned from his article.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
I just see it as man-on-the-street journalism, given that he did not try to usurp any priestly duties. I am always happy to see a reporter go out and get a story as opposed to sitting in Starbucks throwing three twitter feeds together and calling it news.
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That’s right. Some here are sadly treating this as a stolen valor sort of situation which is utterly ridiculous. I enjoyed the article and learned a bit from it as well.
 
It wouldn t be that simple…one can be sued for taking “brand” .
Easy target…if it were my brand it wouldn t pass that lightly…
I do not remember the technical name for that but there are examples.
 
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graciew said:
It wouldn t be that simple
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Sure it is. I could create The Congregation of St. Alphonsus de Beverly Mountains Church right now. If I was going to collect $$$ I would need a local business license. If I wanted to eschew taxes, I would have to apply for a not-for-profit designation.

That’s it.
 
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And there is nothing wrong with me saying I don’t go into this kind of shim-sham fakery. Nothing at all, to quote you.
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Yes there was. The “shim-sham” is a dance. Did you know that? He didn’t dance while wearing the cassock.

Further and more important, you try to brand what he did as being bad, as being negative. It wasn’t, simple as that.
 
I don t know…perhaps.
As I read it, I turned to different cases as far as branding, and registry of intellectual prroperty,etc etc. A course I took…
We have right of author,you have copyright. Stuff like that.
Interesting,in any case. I learnt things I didn t know.
 
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graciew said:
I don t know…perhaps.
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No perhaps – at least in the USA. As long as a name is not copied, there is no law broken. Even then an entity could use a well-known name – say “The Angelus Temple” while having a have a unique doing-business-as name such as “Johnson’s Liquor Store & Nacho Shoppe”
 
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But there is more than one case internationally.
I remember Hard Rock Café and bands that have to change the name slightly when in a different country.
Registry,precedence and that sort
No worries,I won t sue you…🙂 . …nor I know that much about. It is just interesting to learn about .

I was thinking of big enterprises ,and how they would protect their brands
 
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graciew said:
Hard Rock Café
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We’re not talking about the Hard Rock Café and international branding. We’re talking about how simple it is (at least in the USA) to create a “church.” OK, now you can have the last word.
 
Oh please…
Ok.
Just trying to grow in understanding of something that goes beyond the local…
Who wants to speak alone to oneself?
How can I understand if I do not interact with you from a different place?
Please,Duesenberg,it was a conversation with you…

Mehhhh with the last word. On Sale!! Clearance!!
 
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It’s quite a common thing in the UK to take on Muslim woman’s garb for a short time to experience what it is like to wear the hijab and see how differently you are treated. I’ve done it myself, and it is fascinating social experiment. I was mostly treated with gentle deference, but did get called dirty by one passerby.
This gentleman’s experience with the cassock seems of a similar order, and, I think, a fruitful exercise.
As to what clerics wear more generally, my female vicar friends almost all wear a collar, some with exceedingly funky shirts and tops. I’ve met a number of free church pastors who wear collars, but my good Reformed Baptist friend contents himself with a small fish pin on his jacket lapel.
My own dear Father C wears a cassock, and even came in out of the rain on Thursday wearing a magnificent black cape over the top of it. He’s a young man but a bit of an old soul.
 
Men dressed as priests marry people too.
And people believe they are priests.
This was a trend.
Done outdoors,not in churches
They charge,and people are innocently taken in.
And so the Church has to come out and warn the people that they are not validly ordained,and so on.
I do not see the point in general in pretending…
 
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I don’t disagree, and wouldn’t think it a wise practice to be widespread, certainly not with the abusive things you mention. But I can see some merit in an isolated experiment to guage reaction.

Tbh, though, I think I am probably more interested in Father C’s experience as an actual priest wearing a cassock, wandering down to Costa with the Deacon as he did last week and having people stopping him to ask for prayer. At least he could be a priest in those settings, rather than have to say ‘sorry, I only look like a priest’.
 
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