Fasting on Wednesday & Fridays

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Please read below, does anybody fast on these days as we were asked by the Blessed Mother?

What is fasting? How do you fast? What did Our Lady ask in Medjugorje?

In the Old Testament and in the New Testament, there are many examples of fasting. Jesus fasted frequently. According to Tradition, fasting is encouraged especially in times of great temptation or severe trials. Certain devils, “can be cast out in no other way except by prayer and fasting”, said Jesus. (Mark 9:29)

Fasting is essential in order to achieve spiritual freedom. Through fasting, one is better able to listen to God and man and to perceive them more clearly. If, through fasting, we achieve that freedom, we will be more aware of many things. Once we are aware that we can enjoy the necessities of life without struggle, then many fears and worries fade away. We become more open to our families and to the people with whom we live and work. Our Lady recommends fasting twice a week: “Fast strictly on Wednesdays and Fridays.” (August 14, 1984)

“The best fast is on bread and water. Through fasting and prayer one can stop wars, one can suspend the natural laws of nature. Works of charity cannot replace fasting… Everyone except the sick, has to fast.” (July 21, 1982)

Fasting takes personal discipline. Start slow, and work your way up to bread and water only. Fasting means that we give up something that we like and offer that sacrifice to God. One can give up sweets, coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, television, etc. But, Our Lady stresses that the best and most powerful fast is on bread and water for a 24 hour period from midnight to midnight. Great graces come from fasting and it can help with situations in your life that seem hopeless. Fr. Slavko always used to be asked how much bread and water one should eat on fast days. His answer was very simple, “as much as you need”. The amount and frequency are not really important, but rather our intention to fast out of love for God.

Source: medjugorje.org/index.html
 
Our Lady never said anything at Medjugorje because she is not appearing there. My gosh but just how many victims have to fall to its lies? I am sorry but the Medjugorje stuff is a load of old nonsense. Whats more it is unapproved old nonsense.

Moderators??? Please close this thread.
 
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Fergal:
Our Lady never said anything at Medjugorje because she is not appearing there. My gosh but just how many victims have to fall to its lies? I am sorry but the Medjugorje stuff is a load of old nonsense. Whats more it is unapproved old nonsense.

Moderators??? Please close this thread.
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Amen!

Benedict XVI likely to be more rational than John Paul II
AFP
Sunday, April 24, 2005

VATICAN CITY, Italy (AFP) - As Pope Benedict XVI moves out of the shadow of his predecessor, Church sources said Thursday he was likely to be considerably more rational and less mystical than John Paul II.
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 http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/images/20050423T220000-0500_79264_OBS_BENEDICT_XVI_LIKELY_TO_BE_MORE_RATIONAL_THAN_JOHN_PAUL_II_1.jpg BENEDICT XVI. his Bavarian background and bookish nature will make him more reserved and less effusive than John Paul II "He's really a professor at heart," said Cristian Weisner, chairman of We Are Church, an international movement committed to the renewal of the Roman Catholic Church on the basis of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council of the early 1960s.
“He has not had too much contact with people. He was a bishop for a short time, but was not very successful.”
Weisner said the pope’s Bavarian background as well as his own bookish nature would make him more reserved and less effusive than John Paul II.

“He is much more intellectual and very modern,” Weisner said.
Theologians at the Jesuit-run Gregorian University in Rome said that even judging from the experience of a day, the new pope was clearly different from the pontiff for whom he had worked for the past two decades.

They noted that his homily during his first mass for the cardinals who elected him at a secret conclave was theologically sound and solidly based on Christ’s teaching.
John Paul II always placed more emphasis on Mary, the mother of Christ, posing a problem for Protestant and Anglican churches who do not accord her the same cosmic importance as the Catholics.

The late pope also stressed the importance of relics, and created more saints than all his predecessors put together.
No one can predict whether Benedict XVI will continue in the same vein. One of the items in his box as he assumed the pontificate was a popular demand for the canonisation of John Paul II, and Church sources said it would be interesting to see how quickly he acts on this.

But one priest who knows Benedict XVI said that the new pope, after spending half his career in Rome, has picked up the reflex of “never saying no. The Romans just never get round to it”.

One priest said that during a recent visit to the Pontifical Bibilical Institute in Rome, the former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was strongly critical of the popular cult surrounding the Virgin of Medjugorje in Bosnia Herzegovina, describing it as a hoax.
Weisner said the new pope shunned such outpourings of popular religiosity, which the former pontiff encouraged.

“He is dominated by the theology of Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, and Greek philosophy regarding the body and soul,” Weisner said, adding that Benedict XVI was in no way a mystical man.

Religion in his native Bavaria was more down to earth than the nationalist and mystic Church of John Paul II’s Poland, Weisner added.

The pope is not only a rational thinker and writer but a lover of Mozart and a competent pianist whose brother is a priest and director of a well-known German choir.

But Weisner said he is also a pessimist who is “afraid of the future”.
“John Paul II said ‘do not be afraid’, but Ratzinger says, ‘be afraid’,” Weisner said.

The pontiff has said the Church’s main responsibility, in a materialistic and indifferent world, is to preserve Catholic doctrine for future generations, even if the result is an ever-shrinking Church.

Weisner said the change is already in the wind. What the pope predicts “is already the case: There is a lack of people, a lack of money and a lack of priests”.

Benedict XVI is an ambiguous figure who, during the Second Vatican Council, was active as a young assistant to the late German Cardinal Josef Frings, an influential moderate.
After the council, he became a university teacher but was reportedly shocked by the European student riots of 1968 and began questioning the liberal political agenda.

As prefect for the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith for the past two decades, he acquired a reputation as a stern inquisitor who truncated the careers of scores of theologians who questioned orthodox doctrines.

Impersonal he may have seemed, but no one seems to question his intellectual prowess.
“He is a very brilliant theologian and philosopher, and the Catholic Church should be proud of him,” Weisner said.
 
Under Canon Law, we are already bound to fasting and abstinence on Fridays.

vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P4O.HTM

However, in the United States we may substitute some other form of penance (works of mercy, for example) on the Fridays outside of Lent.
 
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msproule:
Under Canon Law, we are already bound to fasting and abstinence on Fridays.

vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P4O.HTM

However, in the United States we may substitute some other form of penance (works of mercy, for example) on the Fridays outside of Lent.
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Actually what Canon Law requires is abstinence from meat on all Fridays and fasting and abstinence on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. In the United States, some other form of penance may be substituted for Fridays outside of Lent.
 
Actually, fasting on Wednesdays and Fridays is a very ancient tradition that is still practiced in the Eastern Church.

Clergy and monastics fast on Wednesdays and Fridays from meat, eggs and dairy products.

The Faithful are encouraged to fast on Wednesdays and Fridays during the Fast periods: Great and Holy Lent, the Fast of Sts.Peter & Paul (2 wks before their feast on June 29), the Dormition Fast (2 wks before the Feast of the Dormition) and during the Filipovaka - St.Phillip’s Fast that is 40 days before Christmas.

The Faithful are also encourage to Fast on other Holy Days such as the Feast of the Holy Cross on Sept 14th and the Feast of the Beheading of St. John the Baptist in July.

Hope this helps…
 
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Fergal:
Our Lady never said anything at Medjugorje because she is not appearing there. My gosh but just how many victims have to fall to its lies? I am sorry but the Medjugorje stuff is a load of old nonsense. Whats more it is unapproved old nonsense.

Moderators??? Please close this thread.
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Fergal.
I had never heard that Medjugoje was a hoax until now. I will look into it.

I appreciate all the educated response actually providing an answer to my question.

Fergal, asking the moderators to close the thread without even attempting to provide me a place to look up info on fasting or links to pages that show that Medjugorje is a hoax.
Well, you hurt me more than helped me with your reply.

I have already prayed for you but you could be a little bit more kind to someone when they make a thread.

Once again to all the others who provided me with an honest answer, thank you.

Joe
 
Fasting on Wednesdays and Fridays wasn’t invented by the the fake apparitions at Medjugorje. It’s an ancient tradition of the Church, mentioned in the Didache. It’s unfortunate that people think these pseudo-appartitions invented the practice.
 
I fast on wednesday and friday ,and you know what, it works!!!. I highly recommend it to anyone looking to become more" tuned in " to the constant graces bestowed upon us by GOD. GOD bless.
 
Joe, You fraternal correction is very welcome. I was wrong to express myself in such a manner. My sincere apologies for my rash comments. I never meant to hurt anyone. In reading back now I know that what I had to say was very badly expressed.

I have witnessed too many bad fruits from this place and always my initial reaction to any mention of this place is to expose it for what it is.

Of course rash comments always lead to hurt. I have one more area of the many in my life that are in need of improvement. Your prayer for me are very gratefully acknowledged.

God Bless you and may Divine Mercy move your soul to forgive me.
 
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atsheeran:
Actually what Canon Law requires is abstinence from meat on all Fridays and fasting and abstinence on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. In the United States, some other form of penance may be substituted for Fridays outside of Lent.
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This is what I thought, until I read Canons 1249-1251 again. I do not see a distinction made between fasting and abstinence other than the binding age. The language seems to instruct us to do both on Fridays. What am I misunderstanding? Please explain.
 
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msproule:
This is what I thought, until I read Canons 1249-1251 again. I do not see a distinction made between fasting and abstinence other than the binding age. The language seems to instruct us to do both on Fridays. What am I misunderstanding? Please explain.
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The link you provuded from the Vatican website has an error. Notice that canon 1251 doesn’t make sense and canon 1252 is missing. It has the beginning of 1251 and the end of 1252.

Here is how they both should read:
Can. 1251 Abstinence from meat, or from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference, is to be observed on all Fridays, unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday. Abstinence and fasting are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.
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Can. 1252 The law of abstinence binds those who have completed their fourteenth year. The law of fasting binds those who have attained their majority, until the beginning of their sixtieth year. Pastors of souls and parents are to ensure that even those who by reason of their age are not bound by the law of fasting and abstinence, are taught the true meaning of penance.
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So unless I’m wrong from what I read here, we must fast on Friday’s only or give up something in place of fasting? Wednesday only on Ash Wednesday.
 
I am starting my fast as observed in the Orthodox and Eastern Catholic Churches. I think it’s a good, ancient practice that we Latin rite Catholics should put into our lives. I’ve been studying much of late about the Orthodox Church (after going to Divine Liturgy and getting to know the assistant parish priest of an Orthodox church near us), and it’s wonderful to see them hold on to their traditions very much, something that many Catholics seem to be losing nowadays.
 
Thank you to all those who have participated in this discussion. This thread is now closed.
 
The thread is not locked, so I’ll add a comment here. Why do you moderators refuse to post anything more than the completely uninformative “Thanks to all who participated in this discusson” when you shut one down? Is there a reason you can’t be more helpful, so that people can learn what is acceptable behavior and what isn’t?

And just what is wrong with this thread, may I ask? Yes, there was a minor dispute, but it’s been settled. Do you folks take the time to actually read a thread when a complaint is lodged?
 
Julian??
Whilst I welcome the diligence of the CA Moderators in dealing wth discussions on non approved Apparitions I am amazed to see that this thread is still open!!!
 
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compactdiss:
What did Our Lady ask in Medjugorje?
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Please, now since you know, pass the word along.
The Vatican cannot rule on the site until the apparitions stop. The handlers of the “seers” will not have them stop.

I see many people from my “Deep Catholic” parish spending hard earned money to go there on tours even when the Vatican has stated that we cannot venerate the site as a Holy place.

Please, please pass the word, and I apologize if I came off as gruff.
 
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atsheeran:
The link you provuded from the Vatican website has an error. Notice that canon 1251 doesn’t make sense and canon 1252 is missing. It has the beginning of 1251 and the end of 1252.
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Atsheeran,

Thank you for the clarification! I thought something looked incorrect but in my haste I did not verify with another source.

Michael
 
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