Fasting Penance and Sacrifice, what do you do?

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Even though Fasting penance and sacrifice have been relegated to the realms of the almost non existent these days they are still very much expected of us Catholics.

What do you do and if you don’t you had better start because what you do or don’t do can…no not can WILL change the world for the better or worse depending on what you do or don’t do.

So what do you do?
 
I get very sick if I fast, like I almost faint and get severe headaches, so instead I eat small meals or I just eat bread and vegetables.
I try to do things for others such as doing little jobs or helping people even when I don’t want to or feel like it. Like St Therese’s ‘little way’. Nothing extreme.
I don’t like the idea of fasting for days on end or mutilating myself by flagellation. Does anyone actually do that?
 
Even though Fasting penance and sacrifice have been relegated to the realms of the almost non existent these days they are still very much expected of us Catholics.

What do you do and if you don’t you had better start because what you do or don’t do can…no not can WILL change the world for the better or worse depending on what you do or don’t do.

So what do you do?
I don’t do any of these things but am interested in what others have to say.
 
Abstaining from certain foods at times. But I’m a vegan now so it’s harder , but still I can do it for example by not eating cooked food or processed food.
Tried the bread fast once a couple of months ago… Found out it is not so helpful for bodily functions… Yes you have energy but you know what I mean.
Have not yet dared to eat nothing a whole day as I don’t want to give in and binge.

I sometimes don’t go on the net for an alloted time. Or I refrain from buying things I want… Like some new shoes I like or something like that. (this is sometimes)

Then I read St Therese would wait a while , like 10 minutes till she drank water. Yes that is effective but if you do it too much can lead to dehydration as I recently found out.

No, I don’t do flagellation :confused: I dont think anyone does anymore :confused:
 
I too would be interested in other people’s views on this. My mother and I used to fast for one day a week during Lent, but I must admit it’s many years since I last did this.
 
About a month and a half ago I received fasting as penance for a mortal sin I confessed. I was to skip one meal of my choosing within seven days of the confession. A week later, my pastor/confessor/spiritual director recommended regular fasting as part of my spiritual development. I now skip dinner on Fridays, so from lunch until the next day’s breakfast I eat nothing and only drink water. During this time I go to confession, attend Mass and adore the Blessed Sacrament for three hours, all under the watchful eyes of my pastor (I am his sacristan for the Mass and Adoration). Then it’s home to bed. I allow myself a small snack after Adoration if I’m ill, but my goal is to get by without it.

I have, on occasion, fasted for twenty-four hours and boy is that difficult. :hypno:

I’ve observed the Friday meat abstinence year round since birth (well, since I started eating solid food anyway :D), and recently added a vegetarian Tuesday to my routine since I barely eat anything on Fridays anymore so there’s not much opportunity to abstain.
 
I get very sick if I fast, like I almost faint and get severe headaches, so instead I eat small meals or I just eat bread and vegetables.
I try to do things for others such as doing little jobs or helping people even when I don’t want to or feel like it. Like St Therese’s ‘little way’. Nothing extreme.
I don’t like the idea of fasting for days on end or mutilating myself by flagellation. Does anyone actually do that?
What you are doing sounds good. With regard to your last sentence, from what I understand spiritual directors do not recommend such things, particularly flagellation of one’s self.

The mortifications we choose for ourselves can be good - such as not buying ice-cream for myself; but the mortifications that God chooses for us are more meritorious. Such as, when it rains on a family picnic day, or a sudden, unexpected illness we have to go through.
 
What you are doing sounds good. With regard to your last sentence, from what I understand spiritual directors do not recommend such things, particularly flagellation of one’s self.

The mortifications we choose for ourselves can be good - such as not buying ice-cream for myself; but the mortifications that God chooses for us are more meritorious. Such as, when it rains on a family picnic day, or a sudden, unexpected illness we have to go through.
I like this idea… Those mortifications God chooses for us are a true test of faith 😃
 
I fast, only having water and bread for one meal on Fridays. I would do it Wednesday to but I am not allowed by my family. I usually offer it to souls in purgatory.
 
This is a tough question because I know that I don’t do enough…And Yet…

I keep the Friday abstinance…Though perhaps not so much a fast…

Others tell me that I am doing penance as I care for my sick wife, but frankly, while this is sometimes hard, lonely, troubling, and heartbreaking, I can’t bring myself to think of it as penance since I do it out of my immense love for her.

On the other hand my role as primary caregiver restricts the things that I might choose to do under different circumstances, since I must be careful of my health for her sake.

For now - I guess I have to say that I am doing that which God has set for me (for the most part)…But that I could be doing it better…So perhaps my penance and sacrifice needs to be to commit to doing these things even better…

Nice thread…because it makes me think of uncomfortable truths…Thanks…

Peace
James
 
This is a tough question because I know that I don’t do enough…And Yet…

I keep the Friday abstinance…Though perhaps not so much a fast…

Others tell me that I am doing penance as I care for my sick wife, but frankly, while this is sometimes hard, lonely, troubling, and heartbreaking, I can’t bring myself to think of it as penance since I do it out of my immense love for her.

On the other hand my role as primary caregiver restricts the things that I might choose to do under different circumstances, since I must be careful of my health for her sake.

For now - I guess I have to say that I am doing that which God has set for me (for the most part)…But that I could be doing it better…So perhaps my penance and sacrifice needs to be to commit to doing these things even better…

Nice thread…because it makes me think of uncomfortable truths…Thanks…

Peace
James
Inspiring post…thank you James!
 
This is a tough question because I know that I don’t do enough…And Yet…

I keep the Friday abstinance…Though perhaps not so much a fast…

Others tell me that I am doing penance as I care for my sick wife, but frankly, while this is sometimes hard, lonely, troubling, and heartbreaking, I can’t bring myself to think of it as penance since I do it out of my immense love for her.

On the other hand my role as primary caregiver restricts the things that I might choose to do under different circumstances, since I must be careful of my health for her sake.

For now - I guess I have to say that I am doing that which God has set for me (for the most part)…But that I could be doing it better…So perhaps my penance and sacrifice needs to be to commit to doing these things even better…

Nice thread…because it makes me think of uncomfortable truths…Thanks…

Peace
James
Some great answers so far everyone.

James this is a wonderful reply and glad you like my thread.
This is a topic that should be talked about more often.

I’ve only more recently started thinking more about this subject and making it more a part of my spiritual life.

Yesterday I had a good breakfast and then decided I would skip lunch
and not eat again until dinner. So I felt like that was hours of prayer for my kids who have lost their faith, for souls of purgatory and for the war we are having with our culture.

I don’t want to stop at fasting. I could sacrifice leisure time and instead help someone or spend more time in adoration…any other Ideas anyone?
 
Fasting isn’t just a wonderful form of penance, it has the added benefit of detoxifiying your body. For seven years before I became a Catholic (when still a heathen) I did the master cleanse for 10 days at a time, once a year, typically in January after the food and drink orgies of Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year’s. Back then I did it because like many people I was inordinately concerned with my body and overall physical health (and with my image, too), and while I didn’t realize it then, in addition to cleansing my body to the point that I noticed immediate improvements to its daily efficiency and in its response to food and exercise, it also put me in a very heightened state of awareness accompanied by an amazing tranquility. What is more, while the fast typically reduced my daily caloric intake from about 3500 to 600-800, I actually had more energy than normal, resulting in less need for sleep and equal amount of time exercising, though with lighter weights and lower intensity. I always did it to give my body a break from a diet high in animal protein, so the weight loss of about one pound per day was just a bi-product I welcomed as I typically began cutting my weight in the spring anyway.

Now that I have returned to the Church and put first things first, I avoid meat all Fridays and typically eat less overall that day. I typically fast all day Wednesday, consuming nothing but water and hot tea, so zero calories. While the master cleanse at least allows some calories from grade B maple syrup, going on nothing but tea and water is certainly a test for the will. More importantly, it is a test that pays off in spades, especially in the context of spiritual warfare (in my case this helped me immensely in my battle with lust). If you want to wage a successful battle against your vices and weaknesses, fasting is a powerful weapon in the arsenal. What is more, if you want to open the channels of communication between you and the Lord then implement fasting on a regular basis. Your efforts will be rewarded.

If you look at animals in nature, they will often go without food and water, or at least greatly limit them, when they are sick or wounded. Why? Because instinct tells them to do so. The reason is simple: they, like us, use about one-third of their energy to digest food. When you greatly limit your intake of food, or simply reduce your intake to nothing but some liquids, all that energy is freed up to be dedicated to the task of cleansing and healing. I’ve seen this with a stray cat my mother would let sleep in our house before it came in for good. It spend the days out in the woods foraging for food and fighting with other strays. It came home a few times with cuts and wounds, one time developing a suppurating gash to its tail. Every time this happened it would go lay in a corner of the house to rest, lashing out at anyone who came near it, even if to simply put some food and water out. This was its instinct kicking in and telling it how to heal itself. We eventually forced him to the vet for the suppurating wound, but all other times it healed itself by going off to fast in a corner of the house for a day or two before eating again and wanting to head back outside into the wild.

While I can say that prolonged fasting has put me into profound states of peace and heightened awareness (back then I said I felt “spiritual”), it does also do your body good. My sense of smell increases to the point where everyone around me smells sick, even people who appear to be in good shape. The whites of your eyes get whiter, your tongue becomes very pink (this is a sign that you have successfully detoxed). You may wake up with a rash on an arm or leg that is gone by the evening (another sign of toxins leaving your body through the millions of pores on your body). The world slows down a tad and nothing arouses anger or anxiety. In short, I think it kind of turns you inside out to the point where your soul is on the outside and your flesh within.

Anyway, the Bible is laden with tales of fasting, and as we all know the first thing Christ did after being baptized in the Jordan was fast for 40 days. I’m someone who out of ignorance let the devil use my passions for sport during many years, to my utter detriment. However, the Lord, His Church and the Scriptures have given me quite an education, and fasting is one positive thing I’ve adapted from my misguided past, turning it from a prideful enterprise of will power imposed to enhance my bodily health into a weaponized form of asceticism that devotes my will to the Master and dedicates my free will to the cause of holiness. If you want to advance in the spiritual life I highly recommend doing violence on your appetites by fasting.

To be continued in second post…
 
Start with a meal, then work your way up to a day. If you wish to do more then do your research because lengthy fasts can become dangerous (after three days or so without solid food your gastric juices dry up, which would make the sudden introduction of solid food a serious problem, possibly landing you in the hospital. This is why breaking a fast is the most important part. After a ten day master cleanse you need 2-3 days of slowly re-introducing food through juices, then broths, boiled vegetables, salad and then finally more substantial foods until your body is back to handling the extra workload). Another thing from doing longer fasts is that you will never look at food in the same way. You will gain a deeper intimacy with your body and its workings, and all that time without food will create certain cravings that will most likely tend towards much healthier things than you consumed before. What is more, if your diet wasn’t great to begin with you will find yourself having difficulties returning to it if you try, for you will see just how your cleansed body reacts to any kind of junk by experiencing lethargy from things like beef or anxiety from things like coffee. And any kind of fast food will make you feel like ****. It’s really a great lesson in so many things. You will get much more than you give up. Of course, that’s in keeping with the divine generosity of our Lord!

BTW, for those who find this unhealthy or risky, it isn’t at all so long as you do some research. Even a day or two on nothing but water is pretty mild once you understand how your body stores glycogen in your liver (100g or 400 calories) and muscles (500g or 2000 calories), which it will use to fuel itself in the absence of food. Once these are turned into glucose and burned off your body will then turn its fat stores into fuel. It is only after you’ve used all your stored fat for food that the body goes into starvation mode and begins to eat its own muscles and then organs, which is why consuming some form of calories in the form of liquid can provide you enough calories to meet your needs as the body adjusts to alter its energy expenditure, even if you wanted to fast 40 days as people I know have done.

At any rate, I hope this has provided some useful information.
 
Start with a meal, then work your way up to a day. If you wish to do more then do your research because lengthy fasts can become dangerous (after three days or so without solid food your gastric juices dry up, which would make the sudden introduction of solid food a serious problem, possibly landing you in the hospital. This is why breaking a fast is the most important part. After a ten day master cleanse you need 2-3 days of slowly re-introducing food through juices, then broths, boiled vegetables, salad and then finally more substantial foods until your body is back to handling the extra workload). Another thing from doing longer fasts is that you will never look at food in the same way. You will gain a deeper intimacy with your body and its workings, and all that time without food will create certain cravings that will most likely tend towards much healthier things than you consumed before. What is more, if your diet wasn’t great to begin with you will find yourself having difficulties returning to it if you try, for you will see just how your cleansed body reacts to any kind of junk by experiencing lethargy from things like beef or anxiety from things like coffee. And any kind of fast food will make you feel like ****. It’s really a great lesson in so many things. You will get much more than you give up. Of course, that’s in keeping with the divine generosity of our Lord!

BTW, for those who find this unhealthy or risky, it isn’t at all so long as you do some research. Even a day or two on nothing but water is pretty mild once you understand how your body stores glycogen in your liver (100g or 400 calories) and muscles (500g or 2000 calories), which it will use to fuel itself in the absence of food. Once these are turned into glucose and burned off your body will then turn its fat stores into fuel. It is only after you’ve used all your stored fat for food that the body goes into starvation mode and begins to eat its own muscles and then organs, which is why consuming some form of calories in the form of liquid can provide you enough calories to meet your needs as the body adjusts to alter its energy expenditure, even if you wanted to fast 40 days as people I know have done.

At any rate, I hope this has provided some useful information.
Thanks for all that great information.
Fasting for 40 days imagine the power of that if many of us did it what could we achieve ?
We’re not all in a position to be able to do that but there are other forms of penance.
 
No, I don’t do flagellation :confused: I dont think anyone does anymore :confused:
Yes, people still do these types of corporal mortification. They do them under the direction of a spiritual director, and generally do not discuss it should they fall into spiritual pride.

I typically do cold showers, Friday abstinence, and middle of the night Holy Hours, aside from the daily penances I get to deal with.
 
Smile when you don’t feel lke it.
Park a little father away and offer the extra work up for atonement or some other intention, perhaps an apostolic one.
Take the smallest portion if it can be done without notice.
Work a little longer, work a little better.
Wake up a bit more cheerful than you want to.
Wake up with a spark.
Do the most unpleasant task you have first.
 
Smile when you don’t feel lke it.
Park a little father away and offer the extra work up for atonement or some other intention, perhaps an apostolic one.
Take the smallest portion if it can be done without notice.
Work a little longer, work a little better.
Wake up a bit more cheerful than you want to.
Wake up with a spark.
Do the most unpleasant task you have first.
👍
 
Smile when you don’t feel lke it.
Park a little father away and offer the extra work up for atonement or some other intention, perhaps an apostolic one.
Take the smallest portion if it can be done without notice.
Work a little longer, work a little better.
Wake up a bit more cheerful than you want to.
Wake up with a spark.
Do the most unpleasant task you have first.
👍👍
 
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