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hamburglar
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Don’t some people fast the day before the Holy Days of Obligation? Like for All Saints coming up, didn’t it used to be the custom to fast on October 31?
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Joe_Kelley
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There used to be fast and abstinence on the eves of major feasts. I think those went away in the 60’s along with ember days.Don’t some people fast the day before the Holy Days of Obligation? Like for All Saints coming up, didn’t it used to be the custom to fast on October 31?
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hamburglar
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Do people still voluntarily practice this?There used to be fast and abstinence on the eves of major feasts. I think those went away in the 60’s along with ember days.
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Joe_Kelley
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Probably some do, but I am not aware of anyone who does.Do people still voluntarily practice this?
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Lazerlike42
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What is an ember day?There used to be fast and abstinence on the eves of major feasts. I think those went away in the 60’s along with ember days.
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AJV
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In the previous liturgical calendar, before major feasts there were days called Vigils- which were like preparation for feasts. Most of the Vigils were of early-ish dates that is why none of the later feasts (except the Immaculate Conception) had Vigils.
Nowadays for certain major feasts we only have a Vigil Mass which will be used if the Mass is said on the evening before.
The days in the oldeer (pre-1955) calendar were
Vigil of the Nativity of the Lord
Vigil of Pentecost
Vigil of the Epiphany
(These were the privileged Vigils)
Vigil of the Ascension
Vigil of Assumption
Vigil of the Immaculate Concpetion
Vigil of the Nativity of St. John the Baptist
Vigil of Sts Peter and Paul
Vigil of St. Matthias
Vigil of St James
Vigil of St. Matthew
Vigil of St. Simon and Jude
Vigil of St. Bartholomew
Vigil of St. Andrew
Vigil of St. Thomas
Vigil of All Saints
Vigil of St. Lawrence
Vigils were generally penitential occasions- they were usually celebrated in violet vestments, usually no alleluias before the Gospel or festive elements like Glory to God in the Highest. And of course, fasts. Before the 1917 Code, on most of these Vigils a fast was supposed to be observed but many dispensations were given, so for example, in the USA it was only the Vigils of Pentecost, Assumption, All Saints and Nativity that were fast days. In England, Ss. Peter and Paul were observed, then each religious order also observed vigils and fasts before special days in their calendars usually connected with their founders or patrons
The 1917 Code ordered fasting on 4 days (Vigils of Pentecost, Assumption, All Saints and Nativity) for the Universal Church
By the time of 1983 Code, this was removed.
Nowadays for certain major feasts we only have a Vigil Mass which will be used if the Mass is said on the evening before.
The days in the oldeer (pre-1955) calendar were
Vigil of the Nativity of the Lord
Vigil of Pentecost
Vigil of the Epiphany
(These were the privileged Vigils)
Vigil of the Ascension
Vigil of Assumption
Vigil of the Immaculate Concpetion
Vigil of the Nativity of St. John the Baptist
Vigil of Sts Peter and Paul
Vigil of St. Matthias
Vigil of St James
Vigil of St. Matthew
Vigil of St. Simon and Jude
Vigil of St. Bartholomew
Vigil of St. Andrew
Vigil of St. Thomas
Vigil of All Saints
Vigil of St. Lawrence
Vigils were generally penitential occasions- they were usually celebrated in violet vestments, usually no alleluias before the Gospel or festive elements like Glory to God in the Highest. And of course, fasts. Before the 1917 Code, on most of these Vigils a fast was supposed to be observed but many dispensations were given, so for example, in the USA it was only the Vigils of Pentecost, Assumption, All Saints and Nativity that were fast days. In England, Ss. Peter and Paul were observed, then each religious order also observed vigils and fasts before special days in their calendars usually connected with their founders or patrons
The 1917 Code ordered fasting on 4 days (Vigils of Pentecost, Assumption, All Saints and Nativity) for the Universal Church
By the time of 1983 Code, this was removed.
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AJV
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Ember days were the Wednesday, Friday and Saturday at 4 times in the Church’s year to mark the seasons. Again, usually penitential. In the previous (pre-1970) Roman Missal, they were notable because, aside from Easter Vigil (and Pentecost Vigil), they were among the longest liturgies in the Church’s year and were different is several aspectsWhat is an ember day?
The 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia on Ember days
Fisheaters on Ember days
When the calendar was revised, it was decided that ethe bishops of each country could better designate days that would correspond to seasons or needs in their countries, and so the decision for what days constituted Ember days was left upto the national bishops of each country. They were also revised to include the concept of Days of Prayer for Various Needs. In the USA, I think there is only 1 such day, and the others are left unto the judgment of each diocesan bishop - January 22, for an end to abortion.
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