Father Brown Mysteries on PBS

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They show them here in Australia weekly. not a bad series to watch.
 
There have been several discussions on various messageboards, though, pointing out the ways in which the series changes the original stories, so don’t watch them if you are well-versed in GKC, and likely to be enraged.
The biggest difference is setting them in a little Cotswold village, rather than a London parish, presumably to make it prettier for overseas sales.
Other things complained about are the ancient church given to Fr. Brown as his parish church, which in real life would have been Anglican. Catholic churches are rare in English villages, and certainly wouldn’t be pre-Reformation except where the local rich family perhaps had a private chapel.
And Fr. Brown’s appalling pronunciation of the simplest Latin.
And the updating to the 1950s.
And the housekeeper character being almost like the one in Fr. Ted.

So, in short, enjoy the series for a pleasant piece of nostalgia, but forget Chesterton.
 
There have been several discussions on various messageboards, though, pointing out the ways in which the series changes the original stories, so don’t watch them if you are well-versed in GKC, and likely to be enraged.
The biggest difference is setting them in a little Cotswold village, rather than a London parish, presumably to make it prettier for overseas sales.
Other things complained about are the ancient church given to Fr. Brown as his parish church, which in real life would have been Anglican. Catholic churches are rare in English villages, and certainly wouldn’t be pre-Reformation except where the local rich family perhaps had a private chapel.
And Fr. Brown’s appalling pronunciation of the simplest Latin.
And the updating to the 1950s.
And the housekeeper character being almost like the one in Fr. Ted.

So, in short, enjoy the series for a pleasant piece of nostalgia, but forget Chesterton.
I watch the first one on PBS and I thought they did a really good job with it. I had read the story some time ago.

Father Brown was not only concerned with the theft of the Blue Cross, he was totally concerned with the man’s soul.

In today’s market for TV, this was a refreshing show to watch. Father Brown always has a way of tricking the thief and such so I thought the writers did a very good job with this.

Because it is set in a small village, it does make it more appealing. What was the problem with the housekeeper? I thought it was funny when they are worried about their jobs because Father Brown has been told he will lose his parish and one of them says - it will not be easy finding a job in a church for me - a polish agnostic.

And originally from BBC - difficult to believe.The UK got something very right.

I just hope the remainder series lives up to the first one.
 
Here is some more on the Blue Cross by the G.K. Chesterton society.

chesterton.org/discover-chesterton/selected-works/the-detective/blue-cross/

I remembered little from reading the original story but I did remember when Flambeau changed the salt.

It would be great to have young people read the story and then watch the tv show.

Looking at BBC but can’t get the clips to work. It looks like the Blue Cross is the first in the series and then these are listed…

Blue Cross
Mayor and Magician
Face of Death
The Devil’s Dust
The Bride of Christ
The Eye Of Apollo
The Man in the Tree
The Wrong Shape
The Flying Stars
The Hammer of God

However to the side it says…

The Hammer of God is next.:confused:

It also looks like you can watch the second series of 10 shows on BBC IPlayer for Seven (7) days.
 
Error - It was Father Brown who put the salt in shaker to test the “other priest” to see if he would complain.

Rereading the original story. These are short stories.
wenty such things when we work among the criminal classes! Well, I wasn’t sure you were a thief, and it would never do to make a scandal against one of our own clergy. So I just tested you to see if anything would make you show yourself. A man generally makes a small scene if he finds salt in his coffee; if he doesn’t, he has some reason for keeping quiet. I changed the salt and sugar, and you kept quiet. A man generally objects if his bill is three times too big. If he pays it, he has some motive for passing unnoticed. I altered your bill, and you paid it.”
The world seemed waiting for Flambeau to leap like a tiger. But he was held back as by a spell; he was stunned with the utmost curiosity.
“Well,” went on Father Brown, with lumbering lucidity, “as you wouldn’t leave any tracks for the police, of course somebody had to. At every place we went to, I took care to do something that would get us talked about for the rest of the day. I didn’t do much harm – a splashed wall, spilt apples, a broken window; but I saved the cross, as the cross will always be saved. It is at Westminster by now. I rather wonder you didn’t stop it with the Donkey’s Whistle.”
“With the what? ” asked Flambeau.
“I’m glad you’ve never heard of it,” said the priest, making a face. “It’s a foul thing. I’m sure you’re too good a man for a Whistler. I couldn’t have countered it even with the Spots myself; I’m not strong enough in the legs.”
“What on earth are you talking about? ” asked the other.
“Well, I did think you’d know the Spots,” said Father Brown, agreeably surprised. “Oh, you can’t have gone so very wrong yet! “
“How in blazes do you know all these horrors?” cried Flambeau.
The shadow of a smile crossed the round, simple face of his clerical opponent.
“Oh, by being a celibate simpleton, I suppose,” he said. “Has it never struck you that a man who does next to nothing but hear men’s real sins is not likely to be wholly unaware of human evil? But, as a matter of fact, another part of my trade, too, made me sure you weren’t a priest.”
“What?” asked the thief, almost gaping.
“You attacked reason,” said Father Brown. “It’s bad theology.”
chesterton.org/discover-chesterton/selected-works/the-detective/blue-cross/
 
I’ve been enjoying the series even though they’ve deviated from the original stories and created a lot of dysfunctional families that weren’t in GKC’s stories–but they set it in a small village (ala Miss Marple), so what else do they have to work with but families?

As each episode airs my dh and I sit and parse it, comparing it to the original or pointing out that there is no story like that in GKC’s canon. Still, we like the people playing the parts, especially Mark Williams as Fr. Brown. They made a great choice there.

I too love that they’ve kept Fr. B’s main concern the souls of those he is hunting down for their crimes. If it were up to him many would have gone free if repentant, but he doesn’t want to go against the law or further rile the Inspector Valentine, who isn’t happy to have Fr. B looking over his shoulder and usurping his efforts. Their relationship gives the stories a nice comic touch with a bit of needed tension.

As a series done by worldly people struggling with spiritual issues moderns simply know little to nothing about, it’s really very good. They seemingly know nothing about Church law (Fr. B would never have been laicized nor would the parish have been shut down over losing a relic, for instance). Or they wanted to create a crisis for Fr. B. to spice up the story, after all it’s fictional. Still, it’s much better than most other efforts offered on series TV. Best of all, it might get people reading Chesterton. He deserves to be widely read and appreciated.
 
I’ve been enjoying the series even though they’ve deviated from the original stories and created a lot of dysfunctional families that weren’t in GKC’s stories–but they set it in a small village (ala Miss Marple), so what else do they have to work with but families?

As each episode airs my dh and I sit and parse it, comparing it to the original or pointing out that there is no story like that in GKC’s canon. Still, we like the people playing the parts, especially Mark Williams as Fr. Brown. They made a great choice there.

I too love that they’ve kept Fr. B’s main concern the souls of those he is hunting down for their crimes. If it were up to him many would have gone free if repentant, but he doesn’t want to go against the law or further rile the Inspector Valentine, who isn’t happy to have Fr. B looking over his shoulder and usurping his efforts. Their relationship gives the stories a nice comic touch with a bit of needed tension.

As a series done by worldly people struggling with spiritual issues moderns simply know little to nothing about, it’s really very good. They seemingly know nothing about Church law (Fr. B would never have been laicized nor would the parish have been shut down over losing a relic, for instance). Or they wanted to create a crisis for Fr. B. to spice up the story, after all it’s fictional. Still, it’s much better than most other efforts offered on series TV. Best of all, it might get people reading Chesterton. He deserves to be widely read and appreciated.
It also looks like these were done before. I just watched “The Hammer Of God” on Youtube and it was very well done. The actor was Kenneth More and he was a really good actor. (died in 1984).

On further research, the British have done this series before in 1974 - at least 13 of them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Brown_(TV_series
 
There have been several discussions on various messageboards, though, pointing out the ways in which the series changes the original stories, so don’t watch them if you are well-versed in GKC, and likely to be enraged.
I can’t say that anything on PBS has ever enraged me. I came from a fairly liberal Democrat home, and while there is a lot of immorality on major networks and cable that easily enrages me these days, some stuff on PBS mildly annoys me because of its liberal outlook, but I quite enjoy their non-political material, especially non-fiction such as cooking and travel shows. It’s my parents’ fault that I am now utterly hooked on Downton Abbey and Doc Martin. They are relentless in tuning in to Masterpiece and other times like the various Sherlocks and some great locally-produced shows as well. We are a family of Anglophiles, so if you produce something with a Great Britian accent or setting, we are so there.

I hope Father Brown on TV is like a gateway drug that will convince me to read the originals. I have lately very much wanted to read Chesterton because of all the great recommendations I have seen, but I am not much of a book reader these days, and I have a backlog of new books to plow through before I take on new projects.
 
It also looks like these were done before. I just watched “The Hammer Of God” on Youtube and it was very well done. The actor was Kenneth More and he was a really good actor. (died in 1984).

On further research, the British have done this series before in 1974 - at least 13 of them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Brown_(TV_series
Indeed, I have them on DVD and love the series, which was much truer to GKC’s original stories. Kenneth More did an admiral job, I agree. Alec Guinness played FB in the British produced movie “The Detective.” It was a loose adaptation of “The Blue Cross” in which he brings Flambeau back into the fold. 🙂 I like it, as well, and playing FB helped bring AG into the Church. I’m sure GKC and he are rejoicing together over that!
 
I’ve got half of the '74 series on DVD (I could order the other half, but the price makes me wince). I saw the original on Mystery! many years ago, and hadn’t heard of the new Father Brown.

Is it on PBS?

Tom A.
 
I’ve got half of the '74 series on DVD (I could order the other half, but the price makes me wince). I saw the original on Mystery! many years ago, and hadn’t heard of the new Father Brown.

Is it on PBS?

Tom A.
Yes, the new FB is on PBS. 🙂
 
Yes, the new FB is on PBS. 🙂
According to the schedule in the northeast, Father Brown will play on Tuesday at 8 pm but I saw it on Thursday around the same time.

So I would look at your schedule for Tuesday and Thursday. Next week is “The Hammer of God” and I have just watched that one on Youtube. Youtube has the 1974 episode with Ken More.

Listed for the following week on the 28th and 30th is “The Flying Star”/

Also caught the new Sherlock Holmes on Mystery Theater and that seems pretty well written.(can watch online for a limited time)

Thank you UK.
 
I can understand why you are opposed to the new version of Sherlock but not any version of Father Brown and I too love the ones you posted but the new one is meant for a different time.

It may be far from the original - yes but still it is an interesting version based on the original stories.

There is so little for people to watch for entertainment that having a series like this is fun to watch - many will know the difference. It is fast pace to keep with the times and has good writing.

I just don’t understand the opposition to watching it. What else is there for people to watch - Breaking Bad?
 
But people don’t read books together. One person may read a book while another may read a different book of interest and if time permits they may tell each other about what they have read but that is all.

Parents come home tired and want to sit with their family and enjoy some family time together with a bit of TV that they can all share at the same time.
 
People simply don’t read books any more–not the general public, that is. And as for the kids, they hardly know what a book is, unless it’s for schoolwork. Besides, as I noted in another post, it may get them interested in reading the original stories, as the Lord of the Rings movies did. Sales of JRRT’s writings soared when they came out.
 
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