Fatima and private revelations in general

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So there was a rainbow effect combined with some variable clouds, a rare event. but does this prove anything? different colors of a rainbow, a natural phenomenon. a rainbow after a rainstorm, hardly a miracle

in the gospels, didn’t Jesus disparage those who were looking for signs and wonders?
 
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God confected this miracle of the sun at Fatima, not Mary. Mary intercedes for us and promised the children a miracle. God made this miracle so, for Mary, for us.
 
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Because the apparitions and messages were private revelations, we are not obligated to believe in them.

I have several reasons for being skeptical about these, generally based on the recent EWTN tv programs about the alleged event that the virgin appeared to them to be
“brighter than the sun.” That sounds like pure embellishment, to begin with, and it would have been, by natural laws, impossible to tell who or what the apparition was.

The second thing that strikes me, in the run up to the 100th anniversary on Oct 2017, is whether there is more importance being attached to the apparitions themselves, or to the message(s) of Fatima.

Third, the Church was already encouraging the devotion to praying the rosary.

Fourth, the emphasis on the conversion of Russia seems to be a non-supernatural concern of the 1917 time frame, and, literally, an out-of-date message for our day.

Fifth, Sr Lucia wrote the “messages” down at a much later time, when she was sequestered in a convent in N. Spain, not at Fatima. So, the messages were seemingly NOT at Fatima.

Sixth, Mary is often depicted holding a rosary, which is not historically accurate - Mary didn’t know what a rosary was, in gospel times. She certainly would not have used one to pray to herself.

The promotion of Fatima just seems to be out of control.
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I’ve been to Fatima on the feast day. It was a holy and blessed occasion. Are we required to believe in those events? No.


But I would add, with Church approved apparitions, and feast days, faith does grow in ways unexplainable.
 
In response to you suggesting people not to go to the Holy Land because of the bank or something:
My parents just got back from being on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land and with much prayers, everything worked out & they were all safe and cared for- what an inspirational & profound experience they all had uniquely while there. I hope to someday go there to see where Jesus grew up & ministered to people there. Fear is not from God, & the only way to overcome the fear of ‘crashing on a plane’ is by sitting on a plane & recognizing that although that happens in movies, it is quite rare in reality to experience. I used to think that & uneasy about being above the ground, but after being on a plane a couple of times, it’s not that bad of an experience- it’s actually kinda fun to explore seeing geographically what’s below (ocean, states, clouds, etc) & how we’re like ants on the ground so small compared to the world (earth, land, etc). Never know unless you try.
 
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