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Fatimah (Arabic: فاطمة‎; fāṭimah c. 605[1] or 615[2] –632) was a daughter of the Islamic prophet Muhammad from his first wife Khadija.[1] She is regarded by Muslims as an exemplar for men and women.[3][4] She remained at her father’s side through the difficulties suffered by him at the hands of the Quraysh of Mecca. After migration to Medina, she married Ali ibn Abi Talib, Muhammad’s cousin, and was mother to four of his children. She died a few months after her father, and was buried in Jannat al-Baqi in the city of Medina, although the exact location of her grave is unknown. Most Shias believe that she was injured when defending Ali against the first Khalifa, and that this incident led to her early death.[5]

She seems to have performed only three acts of political significance, each recorded in almost all sources, both Sunni and Shia, though in different versions. First, after the conquest of Mecca she refused her protection to Abu Sufyan; second, after the death of the Prophet she defended Ali’s cause, opposed the election of Abu Bakr, and had violent disputes with him and particularly with Umar; third, she laid claim to the property rights of her father and challenged Abu Bakr’s categorical refusal to cede them, particularly Fadak and a share in the produce of Khaybar.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimah
 
Fatimah (Arabic: فاطمة‎; fāṭimah c. 605[1] or 615[2] –632) was a daughter of the Islamic prophet Muhammad from his first wife Khadija.[1] She is regarded by Muslims as an exemplar for men and women.[3][4] She remained at her father’s side through the difficulties suffered by him at the hands of the Quraysh of Mecca. After migration to Medina, she married Ali ibn Abi Talib, Muhammad’s cousin, and was mother to four of his children. She died a few months after her father, and was buried in Jannat al-Baqi in the city of Medina, although the exact location of her grave is unknown. Most Shias believe that she was injured when defending Ali against the first Khalifa, and that this incident led to her early death.[5]

She seems to have performed only three acts of political significance, each recorded in almost all sources, both Sunni and Shia, though in different versions. First, after the conquest of Mecca she refused her protection to Abu Sufyan; second, after the death of the Prophet she defended Ali’s cause, opposed the election of Abu Bakr, and had violent disputes with him and particularly with Umar; third, she laid claim to the property rights of her father and challenged Abu Bakr’s categorical refusal to cede them, particularly Fadak and a share in the produce of Khaybar.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimah
I rather the other Fatima 😃
 
Fatimah (Arabic: فاطمة‎; fāṭimah c. 605[1] or 615[2] –632) was a daughter of the Islamic prophet Muhammad from his first wife Khadija.[1] She is regarded by Muslims as an exemplar for men and women.[3][4] She remained at her father’s side through the difficulties suffered by him at the hands of the Quraysh of Mecca. After migration to Medina, she married Ali ibn Abi Talib, Muhammad’s cousin, and was mother to four of his children. She died a few months after her father, and was buried in Jannat al-Baqi in the city of Medina, although the exact location of her grave is unknown. Most Shias believe that she was injured when defending Ali against the first Khalifa, and that this incident led to her early death.[5]

She seems to have performed only three acts of political significance, each recorded in almost all sources, both Sunni and Shia, though in different versions. First, after the conquest of Mecca she refused her protection to Abu Sufyan; second, after the death of the Prophet she defended Ali’s cause, opposed the election of Abu Bakr, and had violent disputes with him and particularly with Umar; third, she laid claim to the property rights of her father and challenged Abu Bakr’s categorical refusal to cede them, particularly Fadak and a share in the produce of Khaybar.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimah
And, your point is? 🤷
 
i’ve heard Muslims have gone to Fatima thinking it was a shrine to the daughter. I believe the town itself is named after a Muslim woman who married a Catholic and named the area in honor of her. Also Muslims do honor the Blessed Virgin Mary as the Mother of Jesus whom they consider a prophet. When her name is mentioned, they either bow their heads or say something like an ejaculation. Just interesting trivia. 😉

I was speaking to a Russian Orthodox friend who had no idea re. our Lady’s instruction that Russia should be consecrated to her. She had never heard that Roman Catholics have been praying since 1917 for the conversion of Russia. Of course, the Russian Orthodox Church in Russia was infiltrated by KGB so it is not going to promote Fatima. But the Russians made their own church here in the US. I would have thought it would have told its people about Fatima.
 
Fatima is the daughter of the prophet Mohammed in Islamic legend. She is considered “the purest of women”, and She had two sons by Ali who was called Murteza, “the approved”–Hasan who protects the faithful, and Hosein who seeks divine mercy for followers. Shiite Moslems, of Persian origin, revere Ali and His descendants, while other Moslems traditionally trace the succession from the three caliphs, Abu Bekr, Omar, and Othman.

In the Moslem world the Hand of Fatima is a popular women’s talisman (from Arabic tilsamen “to make marks like a magician”), and ranges from literal representations of a hand to highly abstracted designs containing a pattern in five units, for Her five fingers. In Morocco the hand-charm, or khamsa protects from the evil eye. The Hand of Fatima is said to protect brides, pregnant women and newborn children, considered especially vulnerable.

Fatima brings healing and compassion, for individuals and nations alike, and help in achieving forgiveness and understanding.

thaliatook.com/AMGG/fatima.html
 
HADRAT FATIMAH, was the only daughter of the Holy Prophet and Hadrat khadijah. the circumstances of her birth are described by Hadrat khadijah as follows: At the time of the birth of Hadrat Fatimah, I sent for my neighboring qurayshite women to assist me. They flatly refused, saying that I had betrayed them by supporting Muhammad. I was perturbed for a while, when , to my great surprise, I sighted four strange tall women with halos around them , approaching me. Finding me dismayed, one of them addressed me thus, " O Khadijah! I am Sarah, the mother of Ishaq, and the other three are, Mary the mother of Christ, Asiyah the daughter of Muzahim, and Umm kulthum, the sister of Moses. We have all been commanded by God to put our nursing knowledge at your disposal." saying this, all of them sat around me and rendered the services of midwifery till my daughter Fatimah was born. The motherly blessings and affection received by Hadrat Fatimah were only for five years, after which Hadrat Khadijah left for her heavenly home . Hereafter the Holy Prophet brought her up.

hadith.net/english/prophet/fatimah.htm
 
I throught this thread was about THE Fatima!
The “Fatima”, if you mean the vision of Lucia, Jacinta & what’s his name (I honestly don’t recall right now), that apparition was named after the Muslim woman named Fatima! I’m surprised you don’t seem to know that.
 
Al-righty-then ~

So where are you going with this?
" O Khadijah! I am Sarah, the mother of Ishaq, and the other three are, Mary the mother of Christ, Asiyah the daughter of Muzahim, and Umm kulthum, the sister of Moses
Are you a Shia in disguise of a Christian?

And what purpose does this thread have?
 
The “Fatima”, if you mean the vision of Lucia, Jacinta & what’s his name (I honestly don’t recall right now), that apparition was named after the Muslim woman named Fatima

! I’m surprised you don’t seem to know that.
Originally Posted by ricko
I throught this thread was about THE Fatima!
The “ricko” poster does have a valid question and your post is also correct.

Ricko is asking out the “Our Lady of Fatima” visions from way back when and you are talking about the town of “Fatima” where the visions were seen.

Yes, we know (well some of us) the town was named after a muslim woman way back when ~ sometime in the 9th century.
 
The “Fatima”, if you mean the vision of Lucia, Jacinta & what’s his name (I honestly don’t recall right now), that apparition was named after the Muslim woman named Fatima! I’m surprised you don’t seem to know that.
No, the apparition was named after the town in which our Lady appeared to the children.

Remember that the Moslems ruled over Portugal along with Spain and there are still many signs of their 700-year occupation.
 
Fatimah (Arabic: فاطمة‎; fāṭimah c. 605[1] or 615[2] –632)

**was a daughter of the Islamic prophet Muhammad from his first wife Khadija **

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimah
Note to poster:

Fatima was the **ONLY **surviving child mohamad had and it was with his first wife.

God was good to him.

You know, Khadija was 40 something and mohamad was only 25. OK, no biggie!!

It was **only the time **when Khadija died that mohamad went on a “wife spending spree” marring all sorts of women, including little Aishia at the age of 6 and yes… consummated the marriage at the tender age of Aishia when she was nine.

Out of all of the 11 or 13 or 20 wives mohamad had & lets include Mary the Copt who was NOT his wife, but a slave girl, no child of his (mohamad) survived beyond cradle.

God was NOT good to him… GEEEEE I wonder why?

Perhaps God did NOT want to spread mohamads seed.

Even young Aishia didn’t give him any children since muslims boldly state that “she was ready because she was mature and she reached puberty”

@ poster:
If you have something to discuss/debate about your topic/thread please bring it forward.

Otherwise this thread is as useless as some other threads from muslims who just drop a line and disappear.

And yes, I do see your 2000+ posts counter on CAF, but this thread screams out for (name removed by moderator)'s smallest violin solo.
 
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