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Giggly_Giraffe
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Young Guns
The Whole Nine Yards
Bandits
Pirates of the Caribbean
The Whole Nine Yards
Bandits
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Hoosier_Daddy
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Young guns. I like it. Though again he is kind of the protagonist.
Honestly I don’t know if it’s me but Shakespeare has a lock on the whole tradgedy genre. I wonder why the tragedies or the villains appeal to me. I’m not evil:shrug:
It reminds me of the “how I met your mother” where Barney roots for the villain in famous movies. Darth Vader who has a disobedient son. The blonde kid from karate kid that Daniel and “that old guy pick on”. It’s funny.
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Giggly_Giraffe
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Totally miss the “How I meet your mother”!
My guilty indulgence on bad guys is bank robbers. Like you, IDK why these bad guys hit my soft spot. I’ve never been hungry for money, but the bank robber characters always seem so unique yet ordinary and likeable.
Mary_Gail_36
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The original one was very scary. And the villain was very “normal”. DH and I don’t like rest stops now.
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xNoOnex
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Does the Omen count? It’s one of my favorite horror movies and that ending always sends chills up my spine.
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Hoosier_Daddy
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I think 1 and 2 count but in the third he is defeated.
I love the first. But the second is my favorite. The remake was excellent as well. The recent tv series was one of the worst things I have ever seen.
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andrewstx
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I live near to the real location where Young Guns was actually filmed Linclon NM… Its a great place to visit when the snow has melted. It still looks the same as when Billy the Kid was there.
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Bran_Stark
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The Wicker Man. The original 1973 version of course. Some people seem to think it’s a pro-pagan work, but I think has a much better Christian message than most “Christian movies” do.
Låt den rätte komma in (Let the Right One In). I guess the vampire and her companion at not villains in the normal sense, but as the story ends I’m hardly cheering for them.
Låt den rätte komma in (Let the Right One In). I guess the vampire and her companion at not villains in the normal sense, but as the story ends I’m hardly cheering for them.
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starshiptrooper
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Watchmen by far. The good guys completely fail to stop the villain and have to live with his plan otherwise WWIII will start.
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CaptFun
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Mrs. Doubtfire
The shallow self-justifying Sally Fields (antagonist) character throws the rest of her family up for grabs as she pursues a better deal/better guy/“better life” while winning a complete victory court battle to keep real father (Robin Williams) and her kids apart.
Even after she softens … she does not go back to her husband. But allows him to babysit for her in the afternoons (“for free” this time – as opposed to paying Mrs. Doubtfire – one might suppose).
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For a number of reasons this is sort of a love/hate movie for me rather than a “favorite” … but there are a number of thought provoking moments in it to make it rememberable … and per this thread … the “villian” does seem to “win” (or at least continues to control everyone else’s destiny according to her mood of the day … which has not quite acquiesced to everyone else’s seeming desire to be a family again).
The shallow self-justifying Sally Fields (antagonist) character throws the rest of her family up for grabs as she pursues a better deal/better guy/“better life” while winning a complete victory court battle to keep real father (Robin Williams) and her kids apart.
Even after she softens … she does not go back to her husband. But allows him to babysit for her in the afternoons (“for free” this time – as opposed to paying Mrs. Doubtfire – one might suppose).
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For a number of reasons this is sort of a love/hate movie for me rather than a “favorite” … but there are a number of thought provoking moments in it to make it rememberable … and per this thread … the “villian” does seem to “win” (or at least continues to control everyone else’s destiny according to her mood of the day … which has not quite acquiesced to everyone else’s seeming desire to be a family again).
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Hoosier_Daddy
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That is a really interesting point. I didn’t have this movie come to mind but you are right.
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didymus
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The Usual Suspects
The Italian Job
The In-Laws (original) Peter Falk made off with $10 million which he split with Alan Arkin. Maybe he’s not a “villain” but if you use your government job to grab a huge chunk of change you’re not a hero.
The Italian Job
The In-Laws (original) Peter Falk made off with $10 million which he split with Alan Arkin. Maybe he’s not a “villain” but if you use your government job to grab a huge chunk of change you’re not a hero.
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angelic06
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The Omen (2006 remake).
The U.S. ambassador to the U.K. in the movie is shot by the British authorities when he tries to kill his son, of whom he is warned earlier is actually a demon. His wife dies earlier after the nanny injects an air bubble into her at the hospital ICU. The priest who warns the father about their son is impaled.
The ending scene is of the “son”, Damien, at the state funeral for his father (by adoption).
The U.S. ambassador to the U.K. in the movie is shot by the British authorities when he tries to kill his son, of whom he is warned earlier is actually a demon. His wife dies earlier after the nanny injects an air bubble into her at the hospital ICU. The priest who warns the father about their son is impaled.
The ending scene is of the “son”, Damien, at the state funeral for his father (by adoption).
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angelic06
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Woops…I didn’t see this post before writing my own… (posted above).
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Hoosier_Daddy
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Yes. This movie is a hidden gem. This is one situation where I think the remake far surpasses the original. However in the series omen 2 is the superior movie.
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angelic06
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Which one is no. 2? The 1976 movie predates my birth by several years, so I obviously did not see it at release time. Was there one before the 1976 one?
Mary_Gail_36
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I only saw it once, but “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” Nurse Ratchet is still being a nurse the way she always has been. And Jack Nicholson (who I really didn’t see as a hero, more like a antihero) ended up the way he ended up.
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CaptFun
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I don’t disagree with your analysis … but would qualify it some.Nurse Ratchet might have had some ‘splainin’ to do at her next performance review … and might have gotten a tepid grade in her “works well with others” section.
On a side note, Ken Kesey’s book of the same name may have played a role in paring back the excess government control in the mental health field.
While it probably caused a good hard look at the self-perpetuating system of the time that maybe kept people in hospitals as though they were in prison (and substantially more mainstream-able than admitted child rapist Mc Murphy … the beligerent anti-hero that WAS perhaps tortured beyond what he deserved) scads of other mentally ill people who couldn’t care properly for themselves ended up burped onto the streets – where they ended up “living”. :bigyikes:
But the ACLU got to flex its mighty muscles.
- *that’s * the important thing!:ehh: - *Did I forget this was an entertainment thread?
Oh well. Some might find the post entertaining. :juggle:And … when in the “Cuckoo’s Nest” .*… I tend to chirp a little crazily! :hypno:
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CaptFun
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Maybe it was your screen name that caused me to consider this one but in
**“Hoosiers” ** … ALL the “villians” seem to win (except the undeveloped characters … like the opposing teams).
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Bitter, cold fish teacher Myra Fleener, who hates basketball and had decided to convince the town’s premiere star player to quit the team in favor of study and going to college … let’s go of her stubborn ways little by little … and opens her heart to seeing other peoples’ side of things … and love … and is smiling and cheering with the rest of her neighbors for the Cinderella team of destiny.
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Gene Hackman’s contentious “my way or the highway” coach Norman Dale is not averse to picking fights or being in them. He does not suffer fools nor even unsolicited “help” from others. But along the way he decides to help the town drunk regain his dignity … and lets his team call the final winning play (instead of the one HE called). He also gets over his annoyance with some of the overtly religious characters around him (his player Strap, Strap’s preacher father, and the “scripture of the day” inspirational chaplain who gives the locker room invocations before the games).
“Shooter” the drunk slowly turns his life around regaining the respect of his estranged son by the end of the picture.
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The “helpful” interim coach, “George” whom Hackman “fires” at the beginning of the movie … and leads a temporarily successful ousting of the coach Dale … is seen thrilled by the team (and his son Buddy who stayed with the team) at the state finals (presumably over his hurts).
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It took me a few times to see all of that … but the “everybody wins” (but South Bend Central) ending is part of the magic that makes Hoosiers one of my favorite movies ever.
Small town backwoods Indiana plays a supporting role in the movie … much like the great panoramas of the western scenes augment many a cowboy movie IMO. Who knew! Wonderful period piece of the early 1950s to boot I thought.
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Star Wars 5: The Empire Strikes Back.
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