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The Carthusian Order
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The Order of the Most Holy Trinity and of the Captives
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The Order of the Most Holy Trinity and of the Captives
You’d be surprisedI didn’t think benedictines were so popular![]()
Yep. Our abbey has 27 monks in choir and 203 oblatesYou’d be surprised![]()
That’ll teach you!I didn’t think benedictines were so popular![]()
I bet Mass there is pretty epic.Yep. Our abbey has 27 monks in choir and 203 oblates![]()
God bless your abbey!Yep. Our abbey has 27 monks in choir and 203 oblates![]()
Most abbeys now have abolished the rank of “lay brother”, and all monks whether ordained or not are fully professed monks. All do a share of the labour in our abbey, including the ordained, and all are in choir, including the non-ordained. This is a product of Vatican II which required the orders to return to the charisms of their founders. St. Benedict never made the “lay brother” distinction. Instead it was the product of increasingly complex liturgy due to musical development, more saints, etc, and of creeping clericalism.If I’d had a calling to religious life, I think I’d have made a good Benedictine Lay Brother, the guys that did more work while the choir monks did more praying.
One of the best things to happen to orders in centuries.Most abbeys now have abolished the rank of “lay brother”, and all monks whether ordained or not are fully professed monks. All do a share of the labour in our abbey, including the ordained, and all are in choir, including the non-ordained. This is a product of Vatican II which required the orders to return to the charisms of their founders. St. Benedict never made the “lay brother” distinction. Instead it was the product of increasingly complex liturgy due to musical development, more saints, etc, and of creeping clericalism.
That said many of the non-ordained brothers are more manually-inclined than the ordained. But our first abbot, in 1952 when our monastery was raised from a conventual priory to an abbey, was an electrician before going into religious life![]()
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