Favorite Protestant denomination

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James82 said:
We do not consider ourselves ‘Protestant’ in regards to Catholic doctrine. The only thing that Anglo-Catholics ‘protest’ is the universal jurisdiction of the Pope.
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And in that you are protestants. Unlike various Protestant denominations, Catholics are required (each and every one of us) to submit to all Catholic doctrines, without exception (something that some converts find difficult at first, having come from more ‘liberal’ denominations, which have a more personally interpreative mindset). Submission to the authority of the Pope as the vicar of Christ on Earth is pretty central to being a Catholic. Whether or not we personally have issues with certain teachings is neither here nor there, we are Catholics so we submit to the authority of the Church and work to form our opinions and consciences to be in line with what our Church teaches.

When Henry VII broke with the Catholic Church, the only difference was regarding who was the head of the Church, the Pope or the British monarch. It seems very strange that Anglicans (low or high) are happy to accept the British monarch as the Supreme Governor of their church, but have issues with accepting the Pope. Perhaps you could shed some light on why that is?
 
Brendan_64 said:
And in that you are protestants. Unlike various Protestant denominations, Catholics are required (each and every one of us) to submit to all Catholic doctrines, without exception (something that some converts find difficult at first, having come from more ‘liberal’ denominations, which have a more personally interpreative mindset). Submission to the authority of the Pope as the vicar of Christ on Earth is pretty central to being a Catholic. Whether or not we personally have issues with certain teachings is neither here nor there, we are Catholics so we submit to the authority of the Church and work to form our opinions and consciences to be in line with what our Church teaches.

When Henry VII broke with the Catholic Church, the only difference was regarding who was the head of the Church, the Pope or the British monarch. It seems very strange that Anglicans (low or high) are happy to accept the British monarch as the Supreme Governor of their church, but have issues with accepting the Pope. Perhaps you could shed some light on why that is?
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Anglicans, generally, do not. Only the Church of England refers to the British monarch as the Supreme Governor, as Henry was originally the Supreme Head. Acts of Parliament gave the titles (Supreme Head Act/1534, Act of Supremacy/1559) and it changed in in Elizabeth’s day.The Sovereign only had any analogous theological authority to the Pope, as long as the Throne had such authority, generally. Been centuries since that was a theoretical problem.

GKC
 
Brendan_64 said:
And in that you are protestants. Unlike various Protestant denominations, Catholics are required (each and every one of us) to submit to all Catholic doctrines, without exception (something that some converts find difficult at first, having come from more ‘liberal’ denominations, which have a more personally interpreative mindset). Submission to the authority of the Pope as the vicar of Christ on Earth is pretty central to being a Catholic. Whether or not we personally have issues with certain teachings is neither here nor there, we are Catholics so we submit to the authority of the Church and work to form our opinions and consciences to be in line with what our Church teaches.

When Henry VII broke with the Catholic Church, the only difference was regarding who was the head of the Church, the Pope or the British monarch. It seems very strange that Anglicans (low or high) are happy to accept the British monarch as the Supreme Governor of their church, but have issues with accepting the Pope. Perhaps you could shed some light on why that is?
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Hi Brendan,

I’m not taking the bait ;). GKC gave you the short version.
 
James82 said:
Hi Brendan,

I’m not taking the bait ;). GKC gave you the short version.
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I’m not trying to ‘bait’ you at all. However being Catholic means accepting all of the doctrines of the Church. If we personally have issues with certain doctrines, then we are bound to put our own issues aside and fully accept what the Church teaches, while working to align our conscience to conform to Church teaching on that issues. It is about humbly accepting that the Church knows better than we do, and submitting to her authority. And to reject a doctrine so central to Catholicism, such as the authority of the papacy, is to reject one of the core pillars upon which our Faith is built. Peter is the rock, the authority of the papacy is fundamental to Catholicism.
 
As far as “Favorite Protestant denomination”, when I think of Protestantism and Catholicism and whatever other 'ism" there might be, I think of Jesus saying, “I AM the Vine, you are the branches”, as opposed to Jesus not saying, ‘I AM the Vine, you are the branch’.
 
They are all heresy so the only correct answer is none.
 
Truth_Faith13 said:
I’m not a fan of the Amish, I don’t like their tradition of sending kids out for a year at 16…if they decide to remain Amish, great; if they choose not to, they are outcast and are no longer allowed to speak/talk to the family. This was actually portrayed in the film about the shooting, as the mother of one of the children who was struggling to forgive the shooter, couldn’t understand why they forgave him instantly, but she was forbidden from seeing her sister who had decided to marry a non Amish man.

I watched a documentary on them and the children seemed happy enough and well behaved but is it true happiness when there is the knowledge that if you decide to leave the compounds, you are cast out for ever? It reminds me of the Mormons, all sweet and innocent, very welcoming and friendly…as soon as you leave…it’s a different matter all together.
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I think there are pop culture distortions of the rumspringa and shunning that the Amish community participates in.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa

welcome-to-lancaster-county.com/amish-community.html

I think that it is important to remember that shunning in the Amish community is used medicinally as excommunication is in the Catholic Church. A wayward and unrepentant member, when cut off from community will hopefully seek again the spiritual grace that is now missing from their lives. It also serves to protect the faithful from being influenced by the sin of the offender.
 
I think that this is a very interesting question, and the thread has been interesting to read. When I was a senior in high school I wrote a paper about the Amish and went with my family to an Amish community about two and a half hours away in southern Minnesota to interview them.

I think they are a little treasure in the Protestant community. In some ways they remind me of a religious order. Their way of life is about simplicity, community, and prayer. They are generally shut out from the outside world, but they do not completely shun modern technology as many think. It is not unheard of for them to use modern medicine, to buy ice cream at a local store, fly on airplanes, etc. They are warm and friendly to visitors, and I think in general get along with their “English” neighbors, as they do business with them in selling pies, quilts, furniture, etc.

While their theology isn’t Catholic, their emphasis on humility and virtue is quite impressive. How seriously they take the rooting out of sin in their lives, as well as trying to remove near occasions is inspiring. As was mentioned before, their notions of forgiveness of pretty much exactly what Jesus is about. The modern world and Christians who have been influenced by the modern world cannot comprehend some of the things that the Amish forgive, and do not understand their lack of pursuit of civil and criminal penalties, but Jesus requires us to forgive all wrongs, and in the end civil penalties do not matter to God, so kudos to the Amish for their practice of forgiveness.

I like that they have an organized community. Everyone has a role, no member is forgotten. Everyone contributes and everyone receives.

So again, while I don’t necessarily “respect” the Anabaptist lineage of theology, I have a high respect for how the Amish practice their Christianity.
 
Blessedwithfive said:
I’m not a fan of the Amish as they only educate their kids to 8th grade and they do not follow child labor laws. Forgiving they are, but I think they do not value their children. Just my opinion…:o
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Truth_Faith13 said:
I’m not a fan of the Amish, I don’t like their tradition of sending kids out for a year at 16…if they decide to remain Amish, great; if they choose not to, they are outcast and are no longer allowed to speak/talk to the family. This was actually portrayed in the film about the shooting, as the mother of one of the children who was struggling to forgive the shooter, couldn’t understand why they forgave him instantly, but she was forbidden from seeing her sister who had decided to marry a non Amish man.

I watched a documentary on them and the children seemed happy enough and well behaved but is it true happiness when there is the knowledge that if you decide to leave the compounds, you are cast out for ever? It reminds me of the Mormons, all sweet and innocent, very welcoming and friendly…as soon as you leave…it’s a different matter all together.
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Publisher said:
Your assumption is false. The Amish allow their almost adult children the opportunity to live among the “English” until they choose to be baptized in the Church. Once one of these young adults is baptized it is then that the ban would be imposed upon them until they repent.

If a young adult chose NOT to be baptized into the Amish brotherhood they are not shunned. They are then allowed without recrimination to come and go as they please but are encouraged by their families to find a life suited to them…most leave and become Mennonite.

The Amish have a 95% retention rate of their young…it would be nice if other faith communities had such retention.
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Thank you for this correction.
 
After joining this forum I have begun to like the Lutherans. One Lutheran posted something about the “One true Church”. A catholic asked which one that was. He replied “The Catholic Church of course”. I posted that I never thought that I would hear a Protestant say that. Another Lutheran said that I was listening to the wrong Protestants. He said that Lutherans know their historic roots and always respected them.

Hats off to the Lutherans.
 
I don’t believe mormans can be characterized as protestants.
 
None…

I went to one Evangelical church once. They were trying so hard to convert me.

When I went there I saw no altar, just a preacher acting as pope. I was given their communion which consisted of crackers and grape juice without consecration…
I ran as fast as I could.

I didn’t feel it was Christianity.

Very nice people, but I sensed confusion, a tremendous emptiness.

Being from Pennsylvania I like the Amish. Not because of their religious beliefs but because they are hard working, honest, and peaceful people despite what the TLC programs show about them. All lies…
 
KidShellen said:
For Catholics. Which Protestant denomination do you respect the most?

I’m not too educated on the different denominations, but I would say I really like the Baptists.
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Realizing that any Protestant denomination represents division in the Body of Christ, this is like asking me which disease I prefer above the others. It saddens me that there is any division at all. So, while I can respect one’s right to believe what one chooses, and respect them as children of God, I cannot respect division of any sort when it comes to Christ.
 
Blessedwithfive said:
I’m not a fan of the Amish as they only educate their kids to 8th grade and they do not follow child labor laws. Forgiving they are, but I think they do not value their children. Just my opinion…:o
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Forgive me if I’m wrong, but couldn’t this have been said about MILLIONS of peasant Catholics throughout history? However, I doubt any Catholic would say they didn’t value their children simply because the children didn’t receive the finest or most lengthy education and/or because their children had to work at early ages 🤷
 
Tom_Baum said:
As far as “Favorite Protestant denomination”, when I think of Protestantism and Catholicism and whatever other 'ism" there might be, I think of Jesus saying, “I AM the Vine, you are the branches”, as opposed to Jesus not saying, ‘I AM the Vine, you are the branch’.
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‘Branches’ don’t mean if you’ve broken yourself off from the vine .Read on and see what happens to those that do break off. 40,000 different denominations that can’t even agree with each other is not what Jesus prayed for. He prayed One Faith, One Church, One Baptism, One Father of ALL. Don’t you think it’s time we work to achieve that?? Stop all this arguing and study into what Jesus really taught. God Bless, Memaw
 
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