Fear of marriage

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So I’ve been browsing through a lot of these threads and it appears that most of you have a ton of drastic problems with your marriages. Some of these have led to fear and concerns for me. How would you suggest dealing with fear of divorce (if the other partner suddenly changes and wants it) and infidelity? I am certain I’m called to marriage but I am terrified of these things happening maybe 20 years down the road.

Also what about some of your marital successes to lighten the mood around here?
 
I’m not married though my grandparents have been married over 50 years and argue like no tomorrow. But they’re not going anywhere. I would think if you and your potential spouse ever got along like this and still loved eachother at the end of the day you might be a good match. I would be wary of marrying a non-Catholic since they might not take marriage as seriously as us (ie. they can remarry).
 
Into each life some rain must fall…

However, some people are happily married and have been for years or decades. I am happily married for over a decade and a half. I am actually looking ahead to my 20th, just a few short years away.

Every life must experience their fair share of suffering, and for some, it is in their marriages. But there are a lot more happy marriages out there than these forums would lead you to believe. Do not be afraid. Proceed cautiously with selecting a spouse, center your marriage on Christ, and throw yourself into your vocation with your whole heart. That is really all you can do, and then you rely upon God. 🙂
 
You need to remember that people aren’t very likely to make forum post just to tell everybody how awesome their marriage is. Also remember that marriage is a sacrament and that when time comes for your to get married that God will give you the grace to deal with the hardships that come along with it. You shouldn’t let fear from keeping you from following God’s plan for you.
 
=Hunbleandlost16;11551273]So I’ve been browsing through a lot of these threads and it appears that most of you have a ton of drastic problems with your marriages. Some of these have led to fear and concerns for me. How would you suggest dealing with fear of divorce (if the other partner suddenly changes and wants it) and infidelity? I am certain I’m called to marriage but I am terrified of these things happening maybe 20 years down the road.
There’s a lot to cover with those kinds of questions.

First of all, if you understand the dating game (and as always, I’m not talking about cheezy pick-up lines for a one-night stand at the bar), you will be prepared to have a good relationship with someone.

In terms of this site, there are some major issues that have come up including:
  1. Living together before marriage. About 40-50 years people doing this thought this was no big deal. In the 1980s, however, studies came out showing that those who live together have had problems, and we now know that living together before marriage will actually lessen the chance of a lasting marriage.
These are the folks who tend to end up on day-time court TV shows.
  1. Making excuses to be with someone. This is especially true for women, I think. I think 1 and 2 go hand in hand, because if you’re living with someone and you both say have your names on the lease you have more of an incentive (mostly financial) to stay even if things aren’t going well and will probably end in divorce or an annulment if marriage somehow happens.
  2. In terms of infidelity, I would say that happens a lot because people do not understand the nature of the relationship or recognize the needs of their partners. You’re probably talking about affairs, but someone who masturbates habitually could be experiencing the same issues.
  3. Communication and generosity. It’s really important for both partners to communicate and to be as generous as possible. That would solve a lot of problems.
Overall, I think a lot of folks lose sight over the fact that as Nicky and Sila Lee say: “loving someone in a marriage becomes a choice…it’s especially the case once the honeymoon phase is over.”.

A lot of nonsense in relationships really is quite preventable.
Also what about some of your marital successes to lighten the mood around here?
Just to forewarn you here: People who are in good relationships do not have as much incentive to discuss said relationships on-line because they are too busy enjoying them to talk to total strangers about it.
 
Well, I’ve only been married a year, but I can say what’s worked well for us. I’d say we have a pretty good marriage–say a B+ on an A-F scale. 🙂

Before we got married, while we were engaged, and since we’ve been married, we talked about everything. I mean everything. We clarify a lot. If one of us says something that might sound hurtful and it wasn’t meant to be, that person immediately says “and by that I mean…” and explains, rather than leaving something up in the air that could mean that the other person feels hurt. Before we got engaged, we agreed to never, ever, ever expect the other person to read our minds, and that if one of us thought something needed to be talked about or fixed, that person would take the responsibility of bringing it up while the other person would listen. This is probably due in no small part to the fact that we’re both fairly logical people, we’re both introverted, and, quite frankly, we’re both pretty awful at reading nonverbal cues. However, we both admitted that last, and the way we work around it (ie, talking about and clarifying everything) works very well for us.

We also don’t fight. I know that sounds improbable, but we just don’t. Never have. If one of us is angry, he or she will walk away or be quiet until he or she can say what needs to be said without being unkind. This does not mean that we’re doormats: it means that we do not use the other person as an emotional punching bag. In short, our relationship is based on courtesy and respect: if we wouldn’t yell at a stranger or call him names, why in the world would we do that to the person we love most, even if we’re really angry at him/her?

We do have disagreements, certainly. Married life isn’t perfect bliss (though for us, I’d say it’s pretty close. 😃 ) We overcome the disagreements by talking it out–sometimes pretty vigorously, I must say, but never nastily. It isn’t that we don’t feel strongly about our own opinions; we just let our ideas and beliefs about a certain matter speak for themselves, rather than resorting to yelling or the “cold shoulder” treatment. We’re each willing to give in on the small disagreements, so we don’t even let those get to the point of arguing. We also know that our big disagreements aren’t going to be over something that has to be resolved immediately, so we have no problem, having had the initial discussion and not come to a conclusion, in shelving a topic for a period of days or even weeks until one of us has another insight or idea about it and wants to discuss it further.

With extremely rare exceptions, we do not bring up our disagreements or private matters (sex, babies, etc) with people outside the marriage. I don’t know if he does this, but there was one time this year when I needed an outside perspective on something we disagreed on and weren’t resolving, so I went to my best friend and asked her opinion on it. I did this because a) she’s a strong Catholic who has been married longer than I am, and being outside our marriage might have a different and good perspective, and b) because I knew she would never mention this to anyone else and would not hold it against either of us. I also knew she’d only give constructive suggestions, rather than just engaging, as some friends might, in bashing the other person.

We don’t go to bed angry, and we always kiss each other and say “I love you” before falling asleep.

One very major thing which I see in a lot of the troubled marriage threads is a lack of communication. As I’ve made clear, we communicate about everything. Some of the big topics you’ll see on those threads are money, sex, NFP, birth control, Mass attendance, etc. Well, we discussed all of those pretty early on in our dating. Not in detail, especially sex/NFP stuff, but we did have the basics in place so that by the time we were engaged, we knew we were on the same page about NFP use, for example. We knew that we’d never use artificial birth control because we both believe it’s wrong. We knew, very generally, what sort of reasons we might use to postpone children via NFP, and how we’d divide responsibilities when using NFP. We knew that weekly Mass attendance wasn’t optional, it would always happen. Etc. Ergo, we’ll never fight about those things. Laying a good foundation for marriage by talking about these things will not prevent every argument, but it will definitely reduce them!
 
Why not also read about marriage? Precana often has booklets they give out on it, helps a person prepare and offers good, valuable advice on how to select a good potential spouse.

You can ask about this literature at your church’s office.

A lot of times, marriages fail, in part, because we didn’t select the right person, that we ignored “red flags”, didn’t choose someone of our own faith, didn’t wait for intimacy till marriage, didn’t get married in the Church, didn’t go to marriage preparation classes, etc…

By doing everything “by the book”, I think it would increase the chances of your marriage having success, but of course, by nature, it’s not guaranteed.
 
They say a lot of women go into marriage thinking, “He’ll change”, and that men often go into marriage thinking, “She’ll always stay the same”. Neither is the case.
 
Laura_N said:

“You need to remember that people aren’t very likely to make forum post just to tell everybody how awesome their marriage is.”

Yeah. That would be braggy, like those annoying Facebook posts I keep hearing about.
 
Communication, communication, communication.

If you’re a couple that just love to talk with each other about anything and everything, you’ll find there is nothing that can’t be sorted. Communication of course means that you both also must enjoy spending lots of time with each other. Each of you able to express your feelings with complete openness. Each one’s feelings valued and treated with respect and trust. This of course also implies that you both will be aware of each others weaknesses or insecurities. This…makes you vulnerable.
As time progresses, and having this very personal wealth of knowledge of each other at each others disposal…each of you will be able to make deliberate choices…that either values and strengthens the other and the relationship…or is destructive, controlling,manipulative and abusive to the other and the relationship. You will know with absolute certainty how each decision you make will affect the other. You will know when they need your support and strength…and when they need your ear and a soft place to fall.
That gives you both joint ownership of your relationship. You have all the information about the other to meet the needs of the other. As they say…“Knowledge is power”.
How each of you wield this power will determine the outcome of your marriage.

Conversely…without this knowledge…each can be guarded and only partly invested. Friends with benefits. As safe as an individual could be, within the confines of marriage.

Guarded, withdrawn or secretive are all secular pursuits. Not fertile grounds for a marriage to flourish.
 
So I’ve been browsing through a lot of these threads and it appears that most of you have a ton of drastic problems with your marriages. Some of these have led to fear and concerns for me. How would you suggest dealing with fear of divorce (if the other partner suddenly changes and wants it) and infidelity? I am certain I’m called to marriage but I am terrified of these things happening maybe 20 years down the road.
When you meet the right person, fears of that nature tend to be less of a factor. It’s like being afraid of childbirth. I honestly didn’t think I could handle such a thing, but once you’re pregnant and there’s a little baby really and truly in you, you don’t really even think of the childbirth with fear.

I worry a lot that my kids aren’t seeing what a truly happy loving marriage is because my husband and I haven’t been able to find that place but I try to reassure my daughter especially, that a good marriage is the highest good in the human experience (along with any sort of consecrated life). Give generously in marriage even if it is never returned. I find that there is a beatitude in appreciating sufferings concerned with marriage, because they also affirm the wonderfulness of something that exists even if it eludes you.

But as someone said earlier about women expecting a man will change… if a beau has a behaviour or attitude that you know will be intolerable to you if it continues throughout the marriage… DO NOT CONSENT TO MARRY THAT PERSON. People may change but once you are married, there is no freedom to change your mind and you have a hard road to travel for the rest of your life.

God bless. You are already thinking wisely upon the issue.
 
Just had 20th anniversary.👍

Optimism and patience are the two things lacking in failed marraiges.

Think the best of your spouse, got to be flexible.

Marraige is good training for sainthood.
 
So I’ve been browsing through a lot of these threads and it appears that most of you have a ton of drastic problems with your marriages. Some of these have led to fear and concerns for me. How would you suggest dealing with fear of divorce (if the other partner suddenly changes and wants it) and infidelity? I am certain I’m called to marriage but I am terrified of these things happening maybe 20 years down the road.

Also what about some of your marital successes to lighten the mood around here?
I am sure it is easy to get discouraged by looking at posts on the internet coming from people with serious marital problems. But the married people that are looking for help and prayers are really not representative of all married people. The best thing for you to do is focus on marrying a Catholic that is practicing the faith similar to you and likewise carefully get to know the person. Likewise wait to have sex until married. Having pre-marital sex and/or living together before marriage is often times a set up for divorce later on. Faithfulness in marriage is proven before marriage and many of the the problems you are seeing from people that haven’t exactly followed God’s plan for marriage before or after. Likewise, the marriages that follow natural family planning and not use artificial birth control are much more successful and there is little divorce. Avoid dating someone with serious and potential issues like drugs, alcohol, spending problems, pornography etc and so on. Maybe all of that seems daunting but if one is careful in dating and willing to brake it off if serious problems emerge, you are then more likely to end up in a lasting happier marriage. One final thought, one of the first Catholic priests to start on tv said, “The family that prays together, stays together”. Look for a spouse that will pray and attend Church and the rest will take care of itself.
 
They say a lot of women go into marriage thinking, “He’ll change”, and that men often go into marriage thinking, “She’ll always stay the same”. Neither is the case.
yea, the famous saying, women marry men thinking they will change, and men marry women thinking they won’t. The problem is that when serious issues come up in dating, too many people are too insecure to end it. It is better to be single than end up in a marriage from hell that had red flags flying at you before hand.
 
So I’ve been browsing through a lot of these threads and it appears that most of you have a ton of drastic problems with your marriages. Some of these have led to fear and concerns for me. How would you suggest dealing with fear of divorce (if the other partner suddenly changes and wants it) and infidelity? I am certain I’m called to marriage but I am terrified of these things happening maybe 20 years down the road.

Also what about some of your marital successes to lighten the mood around here?
It help that you both have a sense of humour… That you can laugh out loud together about one another… And don’t take one another’s short comings to seriously … Like my wife laughs about one of my big toes…it’s shorter than the one beside it…
 
Almost 6.5 years married. Everyone has their rough patches but ours have been pretty mild so far. All the things that I believe have helped us have been mentioned - a sense of humor, not holding on to frustrations that really don’t matter, communication, focusing on us more than me or you, etc.
 
Laura_N said:

“You need to remember that people aren’t very likely to make forum post just to tell everybody how awesome their marriage is.”

Yeah. That would be braggy, like those annoying Facebook posts I keep hearing about.
Furthermore, OP, didn’t you already have a thread called “What is married life like?” where several people shared beautiful stories about their happy marriages? I think that thread did a lot to lighten the mood around here. :cool:
 
So I’ve been browsing through a lot of these threads and it appears that most of you have a ton of drastic problems with your marriages. Some of these have led to fear and concerns for me. How would you suggest dealing with fear of divorce (if the other partner suddenly changes and wants it) and infidelity? I am certain I’m called to marriage but I am terrified of these things happening maybe 20 years down the road.

Also what about some of your marital successes to lighten the mood around here?
OMG, I feel the same way :(. Since I’ve started reading here, I’ve become more and more afraid of the future. I definetely don’t want a marriage like my paren’ts (too much drama, don’t want to spill everything here) and I’m now so confused about my boyfriend who I love very much but I start wondering if he’d make a good husband, wich in itself is not a bad thing, but I’ve become more scared about marriage too :(.

Can you suggest how not to let these things affect us so much? 🙂
 
So I’ve been browsing through a lot of these threads and it appears that most of you have a ton of drastic problems with your marriages. Some of these have led to fear and concerns for me. How would you suggest dealing with fear of divorce (if the other partner suddenly changes and wants it) and infidelity? I am certain I’m called to marriage but I am terrified of these things happening maybe 20 years down the road.

Also what about some of your marital successes to lighten the mood around here?
The last sentences hits on a point…people are going to post their about the problems asking for advice. Your not going to see threads when people have success, simply because their is nothing to discuss.

Regarding fear of divorce: First and foremost, don’t let your emotions make the decision to get married. Way too many people get married using their emotions, and ignore obvious signs that will cause major problems and/or divorce at a later date. I a person has doubt about an issue pertaining to marriage, they should not be marrying that person until that issue is solved.

In addition, I strongly discourage marrying a person of another faith, a person that differs on fundamental issues of faith and morals (i.e., contraception, abortion, divorce, etc.), a person that disagrees on have children, and a person with psychological issues. These are major issues that typically do not go away, and can cause major issues in a marriage. Of course, marriages with these issues can still work out, but it’s easier not to build a marriage on sand.
 
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